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Did you remove the stock paste from the h80i? And put on crappy $1.5 stuff?
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Well, you CAN buy better paste but it won't make much of a difference. Maybe 1,5-3c max.
What you can do is try to do a re-mount. Improper mounting of the block will give much worse temps then the difference from good to average pastes.
This...

Yeah i did remove the stock paste to put the cheap stuff on and the block has been remounted twice, no temp change.

Anyway i was able to get it to 4.9ghz on 1.5v, i did however have to remove all my case panels and mount a fan to the top so that i could keep the temps below 80c. I've ordered some arctic mx-4 online and hopefully that will allow me to reach 4.9ghz without needing to remove the panels.

Also the stuff im currently using has a thermal conductivity of 1.22w/mk while the arctic mx-4 is about 8w/mk what kind of temp drop should i expect?
    
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After some fine tuning got my fx 8350 to 4.8ghz on 1.46v and temps at 64c load, you guys know any quick ways to trim off a few deg? i wanna see if i can get it to 4.9ghz. I'm thinking better thermal paste since im using generic thermal paste that i got off ebay for $1.50, any other ideas?
Are you on air or water? AIO or custom loop? I hit 72c on a spike on stress tests, my average temp is 62c the thermal cut off for these chips is 70c. They don't accurately report temps either hence why I said mine spikes rather than hits. I will probably get called out on that however but I'm confident my CPU doesn't really hit 72c or my pc would BSOD and reboot. The weak point in my loop atm is my pump which is an EK 2.2 DCP rated at 400l/ph and not much pressure to boot.
No. Thermal cut off is 90C. 72C is maximum sustained temp.
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OCP would be you PSU crudding out because i can't handle the load, as you don't have it listed in rig builder we don't know what you has.

Voltage spikes would be a result from the motherboard LLC, you are on a saberkitty, so very high and greater LLC is Vboost. Not all chip like it, some chips kinda hate it.

as for ram, still wouldn't recommend mixing unless both brands and sticks use the same IC's

i would go do a serious couple hours in memtest with you sticks at current timing.

when you say shut down, do you still hear activity in your case? fans sand other spinning media? and it just a black screen?

Oh no I think you misunderstood what I mean, from what I have read 70c for the FX chips is the maximum temp you can hit before it shuts down? (I dunno there is so much conflicting information tbh I'm starting to get very confused on what is what lol) Anyway, My pc seems stable, I don't have lock up or random crashes etc, even gaming it's fine at 5GHz but it is pretty close to 1.6v so I will probably just dial it back down to 4.8 or 4.9, probably the former. What I'm confused about too is the temp spiking I just don't understand why it rises 6c with the run, then spikes 10c before the end of the run and back down. So confusing lmao
Yeah like I said in previous post. 70C is maximum sustained. FX is known for having large and sudden temp spikes that often don't last longer than a few ms. Often I never catch the spike on the monitoring software with the naked eye, but the max readings often report it. From your cooling you should be able to manage decently high OC's. Probably 5 since you have a Kitty. What sort of cooling do you have on your VRM heatsink and on the back-side of the CPU socket? Often these two things can make the biggest difference to your OC. But I dunno if there is a shutdown point for socket temps?!?! So if that isn't the case then I would seriously start to investigate your PSU as a possible cause.

Here is a pic of temp recordings from a stability test. You can see some of the quick sudden bursts in temps.



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Did you remove the stock paste from the h80i? And put on crappy $1.5 stuff?
biggrin.gif

Well, you CAN buy better paste but it won't make much of a difference. Maybe 1,5-3c max.
What you can do is try to do a re-mount. Improper mounting of the block will give much worse temps then the difference from good to average pastes.
This...

Yeah i did remove the stock paste to put the cheap stuff on and the block has been remounted twice, no temp change.

Anyway i was able to get it to 4.9ghz on 1.5v, i did however have to remove all my case panels and mount a fan to the top so that i could keep the temps below 80c. I've ordered some arctic mx-4 online and hopefully that will allow me to reach 4.9ghz without needing to remove the panels.

Also the stuff im currently using has a thermal conductivity of 1.22w/mk while the arctic mx-4 is about 8w/mk what kind of temp drop should i expect?
MX-4 is a good paste and really works well. I have used it for years! You might not expect a huge temp drop. Or you might. It is just that MX-4 moves conducts heat faster. If anything 5C max. But don't expect more than 2C me thinks. Another thing you might want to investigate is cooling your VRM heatsink and the backside of your CPU socket. Like I sad earlier this makes a large difference including your core temps. These things generally become a mandatory requirement above 4.8GHz. If you can in fact keep 4.9GHz stable at 1.5V well that is impressive because I need 1.548V for that speed.
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I need 1.548V for that speed.

Really 1.548V?, i could probably hit 5ghz with that if i had a decent cooler
    
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Did you remove the stock paste from the h80i? And put on crappy $1.5 stuff?
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I use 0.24€/1g copperpaste from DX.com on mine and this is excelent stuff rolleyes.gif
    
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You actually mean your block missed the insert pin?
There is only one insert pin... there is an extra jet plate and insert to use with amd.
I check the fans almost everyday. The rad is ontop of my case so I only have to bend my head a little to look. tongue.gif
Pump looks ok... no weird noise or something.
A big pre though....
Don't have to clean the Raystorm block. Just install the new EK and rock on.

How do you guys clean rad's btw? Just flush it with hot tap water? Or a vinegar mixture?
First time maintenance here.

i clean new blocks too before installing, flushes any crap inside that u cant see smile.gif

i just flush with distilled water for rad and shake vigorously

I would like to add boiling water for the rad. There's a lot of left overs from manufacturing like flux and small metal particles you'll want to get out of there. I usually do it 3 times for a new rad.

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Disclaimer: "(not selling in thread i know rules, Asking opinion.)"

So i'm considering selling my lightning, I just don't use it enough to justify still having it.

Think there will be much interest in this kinda higher end 290x since the 900 series is out?

and on another note.. Any one here playing the borderlands pre sequel?

If you're going to do it, do it soon. The prices are falling faster than Courtneys jeans.

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on top of that there is this thing called polling
What's polling? wackosmiley.gif
Wait if the thermal readings are true then why isn't my PC shutting down? wackosmiley.gifwackosmiley.gifwackosmiley.gif

poll rate is how often the software "checks" the temps
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OCP would be you PSU crudding out because i can't handle the load, as you don't have it listed in rig builder we don't know what you has.

Voltage spikes would be a result from the motherboard LLC, you are on a saberkitty, so very high and greater LLC is Vboost. Not all chip like it, some chips kinda hate it.

as for ram, still wouldn't recommend mixing unless both brands and sticks use the same IC's

i would go do a serious couple hours in memtest with you sticks at current timing.

when you say shut down, do you still hear activity in your case? fans sand other spinning media? and it just a black screen?

Oh no I think you misunderstood what I mean, from what I have read 70c for the FX chips is the maximum temp you can hit before it shuts down? (I dunno there is so much conflicting information tbh I'm starting to get very confused on what is what lol) Anyway, My pc seems stable, I don't have lock up or random crashes etc, even gaming it's fine at 5GHz but it is pretty close to 1.6v so I will probably just dial it back down to 4.8 or 4.9, probably the former. What I'm confused about too is the temp spiking I just don't understand why it rises 6c with the run, then spikes 10c before the end of the run and back down. So confusing lmao

iirc it shuts down at 92, been forever since i have done it
Just forget to turn your pump on. It happens sometimes.biggrin.gif
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I need 1.548V for that speed.

Really 1.548V?, i could probably hit 5ghz with that if i had a decent cooler
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Picked up an 8320 yesterday and just passed 10 runs of IBT at very high @ 5.0 with 1.45v. Will post later. Now I'm seeing what P95 needs. Seems like a real sweetheart to me. thumb.gif
Got some pics, this CPU is really impressive most of the time the volts went between 1.41 and 1.428v for 5.0 http://valid.x86.fr/deurmg

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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

poll rate is how often the software "checks" the temps
iirc it shuts down at 92, been forever since i have done it
when my h80i crapped out it took 95 before it shutdown and socket was upper 80s... suprised it didn't take the asrock fatality vrms with it
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