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What is the best motherboard for overclocking the 8350 I want to get as high as possible

Some of the best results i've seen are on Sabretooth and Crosshair Formula V or the model above that? (cant remember... this platform is too old!) I highly reccomend the Sabretooth but I've only used 3 versions of the UD5 and my sabretooth R2 (seriously the sabre has way more options and I can tune my clocks better than I ever could on the UD5)
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LOL you did the same thing I did tongue.gif

aye i saw yours beating me by seconds

its me age

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thank you, I read that post but wanted to make sure that this was true

yeah, i think that is the most accurate listing TBH
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Some of the best results i've seen are on Sabretooth and Crosshair Formula V or the model above that? (cant remember... this platform is too old!) I highly reccomend the Sabretooth but I've only used 3 versions of the UD5 and my sabretooth R2 (seriously the sabre has way more options and I can tune my clocks better than I ever could on the UD5)

Ill give ASUS on the DIGI options,, they are fantastic, especially when clocking other components like ram

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aye i saw yours beating me by seconds

its me age

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next time ill kick the can from under you
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Drops were for brief periods under extreme conditions (crazy weather in paracel with explosions etc). Ultra 2x or 4x MSAA , don't recall which one. I haven't touched DX after I found the proper settings that will not max out my VRAM under mantle. (All medium, SSAO on, AA off, mesh ultra, anything higher and I hit the vram wall and stutter begins). It is insane, usually it sits between 105 and 130 fps (perfectly smooth and fluid, it will only stutter for a millisecond once or twice every half hour run) in full 64p maps and my processor is at pretty much stock 8350 clocks atm. 14.9 WHQL catalyst, win 8.1. I just can't go back to DX now biggrin.gif

Wow I tryed Mantle again with this card last night and I was impressed, it only dropped to 59 ! I wonder why so much difference, it seems like DX 11 is flawed for this game, and also apprently I just had to restart because I played for like half an hour without a single spike..
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Wow I tryed Mantle again with this card last night and I was impressed, it only dropped to 59 ! I wonder why so much difference, it seems like DX 11 is flawed for this game, and also apprently I just had to restart because I played for like half an hour without a single spike..

DX11 is bulky which cause the dips due to the read load/exec times..

DX12 is supposed to streamline and make it more closer to hardware like mantle.
AMD basically lead the way on that front and forced MS to do something as MS was just going to ride on DX11
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You should not need to use two 750 pumps. A single 750 is enough for dual GPU + cpu + dual radiator loop. More if you overvolt it like I did.

It might be recommended by a famous name. But that does not stop the fact that the Rev. 4 is hard locked in the BIOS to throttle on power draw. So that means even if you keep temps low on the rev4 it will still throttle when you hit the 200w mark. Which is around the 4.8GHz zone. It's still a good board. It won't blow up in your face when you start cranking it. But it isn't a 5 contender. From what I have seen in the club from other people and from my own XP the list is ACTUALLY like THIS.
1. Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z (5Ghz capable)
2. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 (only board for Quad SLI CrossfireX) (5GHz capable) (not sure of the revisions)
3. MSI 990FXA-GD80 (5GHz capable)
4. Asus Sabertooth (5GHz capable)
5. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 (5GHz Capable) (not sure of revisions)
6. Asus M5A99FX Pro/EVO R2.0 and M5A97 EVO R2.0 (Hard to reach 5GHz., 4.8GHz Capable)
7. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 (Rev 1.1 is 5GHz capable from what I have seen. Others are not really. Rev 4. Hardlocked in BIOS to throttle on powerdraw. 4.8GHz Capable)
8. Gigabyte 970-UD3P (Same VRM's as UD3 rev4.0 4.8 capable.)
9. Asus M5A99X Rev 1.0 (4.8 capable.)
10. Sapphire Pure Black. (Good on paper but finniky from what I have heard)
11. ASRock 990FX Extreme9 (4.8GHz Capable but very hard to reach. These boards seem to blow up.)
12. AsRock 990FX Fatal1ty Professional (Similar VRM's to Extreme 9 4.8 is a hard ask)
13. MSI 990FXA-GD65 (4.7GHz capable under experienced hands)
14. All other boards.
Worth a mention. I'm not sure if it is a Biostar or an ECS 990FX board that has a VERY robust 4+1 power system.

I also don't pass this off as gospel. But from what I have observed over time and also my experience with Asus and MSI boards.

Very good list.
You dont mention the non -Z Asus Crosshair V Formula. The Gigabyte ud7 990fx rev 3 dont like 4x8GB dimms above 1333. You must use only 2x8GB dimms to be able to get 1866 or 2133. Searched the internerd and only found people using 32GB ram faster than 1333 on rev 1. Red has 4 dimms 4GB each running faster than 1333. To avoid freezes on the UD7 you must disable C states on the BIOS and raise LLC to be able to complete IBT AVX with FX 9370/9590. At least I didnt have to disable C states and raise LLC on two CHVFZ with FX9370/9590 and no problems running 32GB at 1866 or 2400 depending on the Ram KIT.
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You should not need to use two 750 pumps. A single 750 is enough for dual GPU + cpu + dual radiator loop. More if you overvolt it like I did.

It might be recommended by a famous name. But that does not stop the fact that the Rev. 4 is hard locked in the BIOS to throttle on power draw. So that means even if you keep temps low on the rev4 it will still throttle when you hit the 200w mark. Which is around the 4.8GHz zone. It's still a good board. It won't blow up in your face when you start cranking it. But it isn't a 5 contender. From what I have seen in the club from other people and from my own XP the list is ACTUALLY like THIS.
1. Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z (5Ghz capable)
2. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 (only board for Quad SLI CrossfireX) (5GHz capable) (not sure of the revisions)
3. MSI 990FXA-GD80 (5GHz capable)
4. Asus Sabertooth (5GHz capable)
5. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 (5GHz Capable) (not sure of revisions)
6. Asus M5A99FX Pro/EVO R2.0 and M5A97 EVO R2.0 (Hard to reach 5GHz., 4.8GHz Capable)
7. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 (Rev 1.1 is 5GHz capable from what I have seen. Others are not really. Rev 4. Hardlocked in BIOS to throttle on powerdraw. 4.8GHz Capable)
8. Gigabyte 970-UD3P (Same VRM's as UD3 rev4.0 4.8 capable.)
9. Asus M5A99X Rev 1.0 (4.8 capable.)
10. Sapphire Pure Black. (Good on paper but finniky from what I have heard)
11. ASRock 990FX Extreme9 (4.8GHz Capable but very hard to reach. These boards seem to blow up.)
12. AsRock 990FX Fatal1ty Professional (Similar VRM's to Extreme 9 4.8 is a hard ask)
13. MSI 990FXA-GD65 (4.7GHz capable under experienced hands)
14. All other boards.
Worth a mention. I'm not sure if it is a Biostar or an ECS 990FX board that has a VERY robust 4+1 power system.

I also don't pass this off as gospel. But from what I have observed over time and also my experience with Asus and MSI boards.

Very good list.
You dont mention the non -Z Asus Crosshair V Formula. The Gigabyte ud7 990fx rev 3 dont like 4x8GB dimms above 1333. You must use only 2x8GB dimms to be able to get 1866 or 2133. Searched the internerd and only found people using 32GB ram faster than 1333 on rev 1. Red has 4 dimms 4GB each running faster than 1333. To avoid freezes on the UD7 you must disable C states on the BIOS and raise LLC to be able to complete IBT AVX with FX 9370/9590. At least I didnt have to disable C states and raise LLC on two CHVFZ with FX9370/9590 and no problems running 32GB at 1866 or 2400 depending on the Ram KIT.

BS. The Giga boards don't like above "Stock" RAM speeds, but stock speed for 4 DIMMs is 1600, not 1333. If someone can't get over 1333 they are straight up clueless or have bad RAM.

Again BS, Guess how well my 9590 runs.
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You miss understood me. I use a hyper 212 plus.

Just mentioned the h100i for pricing parameters, but i dont have nor cant afford it right now. Which by the way, 100 dollars is only one seller. average price here is 160 dollars for it.

the 212 is a great cooler, we love it here, though the noctua u posted is pretty good too for the money, so id go with noctua over the 212

I can feel the sarcasm.
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Drops were for brief periods under extreme conditions (crazy weather in paracel with explosions etc). Ultra 2x or 4x MSAA , don't recall which one. I haven't touched DX after I found the proper settings that will not max out my VRAM under mantle. (All medium, SSAO on, AA off, mesh ultra, anything higher and I hit the vram wall and stutter begins). It is insane, usually it sits between 105 and 130 fps (perfectly smooth and fluid, it will only stutter for a millisecond once or twice every half hour run) in full 64p maps and my processor is at pretty much stock 8350 clocks atm. 14.9 WHQL catalyst, win 8.1. I just can't go back to DX now biggrin.gif

Wow I tryed Mantle again with this card last night and I was impressed, it only dropped to 59 ! I wonder why so much difference, it seems like DX 11 is flawed for this game, and also apprently I just had to restart because I played for like half an hour without a single spike..

Because Mantle simply is that much better. It also helps that Mantle allows for a full 8 rendering threads which does wonders for the FX-8 chips.

There is a reason OpenGL NextGen and DirectX 12 are Mantle-style APIs. Worth reading up on.
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BS. The Giga boards don't like above "Stock" RAM speeds, but stock speed for 4 DIMMs is 1600, not 1333. If someone can't get over 1333 they are straight up clueless or have bad RAM.

Again BS, Guess how well my 9590 runs.
I can feel the sarcasm. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Because Mantle simply is that much better. It also helps that Mantle allows for a full 8 rendering threads which does wonders for the FX-8 chips.

There is a reason OpenGL NextGen and DirectX 12 are Mantle-style APIs. Worth reading up on
.

there's a saying, we damned if we dont we damned if we do, or could be other way round rolleyes.gif
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Maybe that board has some thermal limiting build into it to stop it overloading and then death? You need to set cool n quiet to ALWAYS DISABLED as the CPU might be telling it to throttle. Stick a fan on the VRM cooler as it's good practice anyway (trust me, it's better to do this for the longevity of your board biggrin.gif) I'm not sure if your board does throttle at 65c but my sabretooth hits upto 70c and doesn't throttle and you have a lot of things set up like me except for cool and quiet to always disabled, you shouldn't need to change CPU CURRENT CAPABILITY to 130% try reducing that, as all you're doing is heating the CPU up under load which isn't necessary at 4.5 (from experience anyway)

Cool and quiet is disabled by cpu i will try 2 default cooler fans on vrm to see if it work
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The one on the back of the board makes the most difference IMO
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