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hmm..how u could get NB at 2800 ...damn with this 8350 i can't oass 2699..but in same mobo with phenom 1055t no probl. with 3000mhz.so,can u suggest what i can do to rise it?ty
I needed cpu-nb 1.3625v for 2750mhz NB stable but for 2500mhz i only need 1.215v and i only saw very small gains with 2750mhz with aida64 memory tests
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So I received an Asrock 990FX fatality killer for my 8350 . What Cani expect? I've heard 4.8ghz can I possibly get higher.
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You can go as high as your cooling will take you. No way of knowing till you get that thing together and start putting the volts to it. thumb.gif The board can handle it. It depends on your CPU and cooling period.

The Fatal1ty is a "Gamer" board, it isn't built as well as the Giga and ASUS boards when it comes to the power phase side. It focuses more on features like better on-board audio and gold-plated everything. 4.8 is a good estimation for it.
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Yes and yes. But I have better ram for benching.

LL
hmm..how u could get NB at 2800 ...damn with this 8350 i can't oass 2699..but in same mobo with phenom 1055t no probl. with 3000mhz.so,can u suggest what i can do to rise it?ty

That is another thing that is totally CPU dependent. The only thing to help the NB speed is CPU_NB volts. That CPU in the pic will do over 3100 on the NB at 1.35v, my 8350 wouldn't even come close but 2800 was possible with 1.45v. Just a warning more CPU_NB volts create quite a bit of heat so watch your temps.
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So I received an Asrock 990FX fatality killer for my 8350 . What Cani expect? I've heard 4.8ghz can I possibly get higher.
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You can go as high as your cooling will take you. No way of knowing till you get that thing together and start putting the volts to it. thumb.gif The board can handle it. It depends on your CPU and cooling period.

The Fatal1ty is a "Gamer" board, it isn't built as well as the Giga and ASUS boards when it comes to the power phase side. It focuses more on features like better on-board audio. 4.8 is a good estimation for it.
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I always have a problem with that since my favourite kits are only 2x2Gb and max is only high test. When I was testing for the 8320 I made sure to start with my ripjaw 1866 which is 2x4Gb just so I could post the results.thumb.gif

In that case high should be sufficient.

We really just advice it so you run a decent amount of ram.
Since high uses (almost) all your ram, you should be good.

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So i managed get working 8-8-8-24 but i dont know stabilty yet and i later do that before that i want sleep
but it was aida64 bench stable

Benches are really by no means indications of stability or not.

I can bench 5.4ghz cpu with 1.55v...
Stable? Hell no. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Mike The Owl View Post

It wont boot on other settings so I think that was why Gerty suggested those timings. ( I bought the RAM off him at a very good price, thanks Gerty)




So I'll stick at what I'm at.

I'm sticking with my story.
2133 cl11 is close to, if not slower then, 1600 c9

It will probably not boot because you have too low voltage somewhere.

When I have my cpu clocked high and ram clocked average(2100-2200) I need far less voltage then when I have the cpu the same and ram at 2400.
Also bumping the cpu-nb to 1.3v can help.

But try one thing at a time to know what is the cause.

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Still same 2500mhz, its weird now it dosnt show northbridge mhz like before with 9-9-9-24
and ht link is 3000mhz

Wow...

Why do you have the ht link that high?
Really no point in that IMO.
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Yes and yes. But I have better ram for benching.

LL

Nice scores Johan.
    
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In that case high should be sufficient.

We really just advice it so you run a decent amount of ram.
Since high uses (almost) all your ram, you should be good.

thumb.gif
Benches are really by no means indications of stability or not.

I can bench 5.4ghz cpu with 1.55v...
Stable? Hell no. biggrin.gif
I'm sticking with my story.
2133 cl11 is close to, if not slower then, 1600 c9

It will probably not boot because you have too low voltage somewhere.

When I have my cpu clocked high and ram clocked average(2100-2200) I need far less voltage then when I have the cpu the same and ram at 2400.
Also bumping the cpu-nb to 1.3v can help.

But try one thing at a time to know what is the cause.

thumb.gif
Wow...

Why do you have the ht link that high?
Really no point in that IMO.
Nice scores Johan.
because 3000ht link raise memory write speed over 3000mb/s
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4.7ghz 1.46v on core 63c on socket and 54c on core

here you have my bios

I said screen shot so that we can see your bios settings.. plug in flash drive, hit f12 for a print screen and save it to flash drive..

do that for all sections and all settings post here in a spoiler and we can then help you

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The Fatal1ty is a "Gamer" board, it isn't built as well as the Giga and ASUS boards when it comes to the power phase side. It focuses more on features like better on-board audio and gold-plated everything. 4.8 is a good estimation for it.

I think "gamer" is the best way to sum that up
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So I received an Asrock 990FX fatality killer for my 8350 . What Cani expect? I've heard 4.8ghz can I possibly get higher.
I could only get 4.6 out of mine due to the vdroop and no llc... this was using the h220x with no expansion rads... temps weren't too bad at 4.6 but anything above needed offset voltage which for some reason poured the heat on...I could have recieved a sub par board but I was seeing .12 to .16 vdroop from the bios settings to load voltages (without offset)this means my 1.55 (max in bios) would dip to 1.4 without offsets during load....I noticed .07 droop from bios to windows another .07 during load....heres to hoping you have a better experience smile.gif
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because 3000ht link raise memory write speed over 3000mb/s

But it is stable?
    
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really good now try at 1t

here is 2500 for comparison


Have you fine tuned this Ash?

2500MHz RAM might sound impressive but you could get better scores from those. I can tell by looking at your timings, CPU Frequency and such. Something is not right.

You just lack the Bandwidth you're suppose to be getting.

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Originally Posted by Mike The Owl View Post

It wont boot on other settings so I think that was why Gerty suggested those timings. ( I bought the RAM off him at a very good price, thanks Gerty)




So I'll stick at what I'm at.

Indicates Single Channel. Something is OFF.

I think, you hit your timing limit there mate. Happens with too tight timings. Try 11-12-11-33 CR1 or 10-12-10 30 CR1

Kingstons are pretty known to have their TRCD a step or two higher than their CAS

Please refer here for a bit of explanation.

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Yes and yes. But I have better ram for benching.

LL

Hands down! thumb.gif
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Giga boards don't do the whole "faster than stock" RAM multiplier thing very well, it's their largest downside. 1600 for 4 sticks and 1866 for 2 sticks is the best you'll get without FSB overclocking most of the time.

As the others said, put more focus on timings and CPU clock than raw RAM speed.

This ^

With FSB OC though, things get interesting with Gigas thumb.gif
Edited by mus1mus - 10/30/14 at 2:54pm
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Have you fine tuned this Ash?

2500MHz RAM might sound impressive but you could get better scores from those. I can tell by looking at your timings, CPU Frequency and such. Something is not right.

You just lack the Bandwidth you're suppose to be getting.
Indicates Single Channel. Something is OFF.

I think, you hit your timing limit there mate. Happens with too tight timings. Try 11-12-11-33 CR1 or 10-12-10 30 CR1
Hands down! thumb.gif
This ^

With FSB OC though, things get interesting with Gigas thumb.gif

actually those were from Patriot Viper kits.. they SUCKED at clocking and fine tuning
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