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i make different 192k and 320k because 320k plays louder with less volume and often gives more bass too

Wrong.

The difference in the sound produced that you deemed "louder is not because it is encoded at 320, 192 or 128 Kbps or CBR.

Bit rate dictates how close to the original Analog Signal the Digitized Audio will be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_audio

Volume or Loudness will not be affected. The reason why 320 sounds better than 128 for example is that the Digital Audio Produced was closer to the original source. Sounds Fuller.. Not Louder.

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This is also common, sound perception is very subjective, both in quantity and quality. As you grow older, you start losing frequencies and even what you hear, is interpreted differently. If you google, you will find more discussions that say that onboard is the same or impossible to discern unless you use very high quality headphones.

I use headphones most of the time and since i usually encode a DPLII audio track, i bought ASUS Xonar DG, becuase it has Dolby Headphone. Turns out after a day, i disabled the Dolby headphone in the driver, it was so fake. And at the end i went back to onboard audio... I have the card sitting in its box... The only good thing i found is that the Xonar had internal amplifier so it was boosting a lot the audio signal. But i have the headphones connected to a speaker, so i use the speaker's knob to amplify...

It's the same story with people who claim they can tell a 192K mp3 from a 224k from a 320k and from real CD. I don't know, i can't tell the difference. The music can be as digital as it likes, my ears work in analog mode. The soundwave is analog, the meccanism inside the ear that generates the neural impulse is analog... I mean, i don't think people are doing it on purpose trying to fool the others. It's just that not all ears are same. At the same way there is visual acuity, there is also auditory. And also subjectiveness on what sound one likes. You can see in reviews people saying "wonderful bass", another say "too much bass" for the same product.


YES on individual perception. However, true sound men have been gifted with articulate ears. Can distinguish a FLAT sound from a little HARSH sound, PUNCHY Bass from HUMMY Bass. PRACTICE also makes them more discerning.


320Kbps MP3 vs a TRUE CD vs a TRUE Recording Rails? It'd be like saying i3 vs i5 vs i7 for them. You wont notice the difference without being exposed to each of them.

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Yes i agree with you.

I noticed the difference between my previous UD5 and the Sabertooth when i played some YouTube songs like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGlGBIzN2ls

hmmm.. thinking.gif
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I often play music with my headphone on because it sounds just amazing. with the UD5 it took way less volume than the Sabertooth to begin with and the sound is not even close to the UD5 and i am not exaggerating..

Amplification. Audio Output components. Volume differences.

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I have ATH- M50x and they sound so much better with an higher SNR sound card, its not only because its louder but i miss a lot of tones with the Sabertooth as well witch i heard on the UD5.

SNR? Kindly elaborate how you can gauge this using your ears.

If you miss a lot of tones from one to another, that's conversion differences and algorithms.

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Sound is indeed an perception and everyone hears it different. I do want to note that your ears get used to speakers, amplifiers etc. but there is such a thing as 'good audio quality' and 'perception' of good audio quality.

All perception. Not a standard. What audio engineers like to hear is what they'll make you hear. On that perspective, sound measuring devices can give you an idea how your system will sound with reference to Frequencies of the audio spectrum. But without listening, you won't and can't say that it's the best sounding sound the system can produce.

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Its like the same as a movie, when i have an Blueray of 50GB or 5GB the 50GB image is much clearer and the sound is much better but both they are 1080p full HD. You understand what i am getting at?

Out of context. 1080P or HD or BR are all Video Quality references. Neither involves how audio is encoded with movies.
Edited by mus1mus - 11/2/14 at 3:15pm
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i read its safe use ddr3 rams to 1.9v
Edited by puts - 11/2/14 at 3:17pm
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i read its safe use ddr3 rams to 1.9v is it true?
read that there
''JEDEC max safe is 1.975V ( for short time ). Since all manufacturers are in JEDEC then all DDR3 should be able to survive 1.975V.''
Edited by puts - 11/2/14 at 3:24pm
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oh sure I do. I am just giving you you what i know having my hands on the H100/H100i etc and now the Nepton 280L.
having tested it myself and speaking with others who have as well, I believe the Nepton 280L is the top of the heap right now for AIOs. 

ah so you actually tested it yourself? So what do you think, is it a good upgrade from my H100i? how much temp difference did you actually measure between those 2?

 

 

The difference for new coolers these days was a leap. everything equal the Nepton 280L was 7.8c cooler over the H100i on the heavily OC'd 7850K.

The H100i's capability or capacity for heat dissipation is maxed way before the Nepton L as well. This also gives you sound/fan speed options as well. 

So if you are wanting to upgrade from an AIO to another AIO, at this point in time the Nepton 280L is the top dog.

I am going to try this thing on my 5.1Ghz FX 8150 and see how far it will go. :)

 

Hope that helps a bit Hurr :)

 

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Question Guys,

Regarding IBT AVX. We have these metrics on Linpack Output:

Time(s) - Time to finish an Instruction.
Results - Stability Figures.

What about Output(GFlops)?

What does that figure relate to?

Is it, the higher the better?
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Question Guys,

Regarding IBT AVX. We have these metrics on Linpack Output:

Time(s) - Time to finish an Instruction.
Results - Stability Figures.

What about Output(GFlops)?

What does that figure relate to?

Is it, the higher the better?

I tried to find answers to these questions too but must of been looking in the wrong place, but as far as I can tell, the sooner the test finishes the better, the higher the GFlops the better and as long as your result is a begins with 3 you should be stable. That's as much as I know unfortunately sorry.
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I would find it odd that a fan would make your psu tap out... maybe the connector has a bad grounding pin?...I always use on board headers if I can..when you say crashes do you mean blue screens or restarts or shuts completely off and you have to cycle power or just a hard freeze with everything still running?

Intermittent problems are the worst because you can try things and think sweet it worked then bammmm j/k

That why I'm thinking its a weird issue... I'm only limited to only 5 fanheaders...
Yeah, BSOD's, freezing and restart...
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masterkleer is very good at what it does.....ive used it for months wit no stains or stiffness
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I tried to find answers to these questions too but must of been looking in the wrong place, but as far as I can tell, the sooner the test finishes the better, the higher the GFlops the better and as long as your result is a begins with 3 you should be stable. That's as much as I know unfortunately sorry.

I've had IBT AVX results 2.902511e-002 and it's stable. 50 passes on maximum and 24 hours prime stable so I know it's good. thumbsupsmiley.png
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I ended up buying some Indigo XS from frys Install was easy I do see a difference vs the Shin Etsu biggrin.gif Ill prove it later on tonight.
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oh sure I do. I am just giving you you what i know having my hands on the H100/H100i etc and now the Nepton 280L.
having tested it myself and speaking with others who have as well, I believe the Nepton 280L is the top of the heap right now for AIOs. 

That is my belief too
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I ended up buying some Indigo XS from frys Install was easy I do see a difference vs the Shin Etsu biggrin.gif Ill prove it later on tonight.

I thought that TIM had reflow issues with FX CPU's?? see here on EK site http://www.ekwb.com/news/232/19/AMD-FX-Processors-and-EK-TIM-Indigo-Xtreme-re-flow-issue/
Thats why they came up with this one http://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-tim-indigo-xtreme-amd-amx-fmx-fx.html
instructions for application http://www.ekwb.com/shop/EK-IM/EK-IM-3831109868041.pdf

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Well the more i am looking for reviews about products the more confused i get it seems.

I seen a lot of benchmarks that state that the NZXT kraken x61 beats the Cooler master nepton 280L and others claim the other way around..

So as for sound cards, i seen a lot of ridiculous claims on youtube and one channel called Tek Syndicate even said that an onboard sound card is just as good as an dedicated card that is designed for it... and that is coming from a guy that actually works with audio so he claims..

I think some people who do reviews are from another reality lol

but anyway, i heard some good things about the Asus cards and the x-Fi cards as well.. so it all comes down to what kind of sound i like the most and to test that i need to actually buy one of them and find out i guess.

I do want a sound card that has an DAC inside so that is why i looked for the Creative x-Fi elite pro. And yes, for only 40 euro's i suppose you are right that i can't go wrong.

WRT sound cards anyone knows which would be a replacement for the Asus d2x?
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