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Do you mean for 24/7 use then? I have hit 5.5+ on all of my FX CPUs but only for benching thumb.gif

Yeah for the 24/7 use.
    
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Yeah for the 24/7 use.
I know people who use his 8 core cpu 5.5ghz stable 24/7 on air
http://www.overclock.net/t/1411009/5-ghz-overclocks-vishera#post_20443012
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/sigh

I thought this was all settled.. lol Damn, do I need to pop some more popcorn, or what?
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I'm guessing they use a full loop cooling setup right?
    
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and another for the list.. hehehe

my cpu kinda threw its self up all over my room.. lol this case needed a cleaning BAD, new place is hella dustier then the last,

fan filters are drying but i'm stuck looking for a jewelers screw driver.. OFC its the tiniest of tools i loose in my tool bag... only me..
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I know people who use his 8 core cpu 5.5ghz stable 24/7 on air
http://www.overclock.net/t/1411009/5-ghz-overclocks-vishera#post_20443012
i need proof of a 24/7 5.5. Oc on air. Unless your running in a freezer or modding ac units to produce low temps it just is not happened impossible
    
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Man dont ask it from me that, send pm that guy who wrote that in that thread what i linked here
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Yeah for the 24/7 use.
I know people who use his 8 core cpu 5.5ghz stable 24/7 on air
http://www.overclock.net/t/1411009/5-ghz-overclocks-vishera#post_20443012
Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha!Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude. Either you are 1. An Idiot. 2. A troll. Or 3. All of the above. lachen.gif
1. You have a lot of gall coming in here and telling everybody they are wrong. We have been playing with FX since the day it came out. Some of us have been overclocking longer than you have been alive buddy! You are trying to prove to us that a 4 core CPU @ 3.9GHz with 1.55V (albeit at 45nm) can put out more heat than 8 cores at 5GHz at 1.55V. You are a joke. 1. The QX9650 has 820 million transistors. the FX has 1.2BILLION ! Ok translated that is 1200 million. That equals 46% MORE transistors than the Intel. Also the FX packs those transistors much more densely because of the reduced lithography. Transistor density is a real thing bud. 2. yes granted 32nm is more efficient than 45nm however instead of going for power efficiency AMD opted for going faster. So the 8350's transistors are switching 1000MHz faster than the Intel's stock speed. When it comes into play when you are pushing the FX to say 4.9GHz, now its a 1900MHz gap. Transistors switching faster = more heat. devil.gif

Now factor that into your equation.
Transistor density + increased switching speed = MOAR HEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I made a rule of thumb guideline that is easy to follow. Because we have seen it and proved it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Scrub Nubs like you coming in here trying to claim your Hyper 212 coolers and similar with 5GHz on 8 cores. No ways. Hyper 212 and coolers like yours are from a bygone era. They are dinosaurs that were designed for duallies and quads. Not for Hexa and Octo cores. The reason that they are still is use is because there is still number of CPU's that they can still cool. I5's and Quad APU's are an example. But you put them on Hex or Octo FX's and prepare to get burnt. Pun intended! Something like a 212 has a max dissipation rating of...... 180W. Want a link to CoolerMaster's website? I bet yours may be less. Now the TDP for a 9590 is 220W at 4.7GHz. Now. We can conclude that since the dies ARE IDENTICAL between 8320/E, 8350, 8370/E, 9370, and 9590. We can THEREFORE CONCLUDE that an 8 core FX at 4.7GHz OR ABOVE will be pushing out 220W or MORE! Now how does that fit in with your cooling? I'll put it into simple elementary school math. Try and keep up please class! 220-180=40W You have a 40W deficit, AT LEAST, in your cooling. Are you trying to blow your computer to pieces?
Now here is my guide.

4.2GHz (4.4GHz max) = Stock cooling
4.4GHz (4.5GHz max) = Budget air. (CoolerMaster Hyper 212, TT True Spirit 120)
4.5GHz (4.6GHz-4.7GHz max) = Single thin 120mm CLC. (Antec 620, TT Water 2.0/3.0 Performer, CM Seidon 120M/V)
4.6GHz (4.7GHz Max) = High End Dual Tower (Noctua NH-D15, DeepCool Assassin)
4.7GHz (4.8GHz Max) = Single thick 120mm CLC (Corsair H80, Antec 920, TT Water 2.0/3.0 Pro CM Seidon 120XL)
4.8GHz (5.0 GHz Max) = Dual 120mm CLC (Corsair H100I, Water 2.0/3.0 Extreme)
5.0GHz and above = Custom Water Loop.

Please take a guess where you will fit in. Here is a clue. A bolded it out for you.
Now that isn't all! You want 5GHz. I can tell you that just cooling the CPU won't help. You need a decent mobo. Now I can't remember if you mentioned your board. I was too busy laughing at you to remember. lachen.giflachen.giflachen.giflachen.giflachen.gif But judging by your claims, you're gonna try push 5GHz on a 4+1 board aren't you wink.gif BANG! Well if you want a list of boards that won't go bang in your face then I can post it for you as well. I might just save you the board and chip as well.

ONE MORE THING! (As old Gramps would say in the Jackie Chan cartoon! I loved that show! rolleyes.gif )
OC'ing FX is not as simple as MOAR VOLTZ!!!!!!!! MOAR MULTIPLIERZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FX needs some serious caressing. It's like a woman who KNOWS what she wants. And you gotta hit the right spots to get her to tick! wink.gif CPU-NB volts can make or break an OC. You might not be stable at 250x20 no matter WHAT the voltage you put into your V core. The CPU-NB needs some love too! Especially when you now try and mate your RAM + CPU OC together!

ONE MORE THING!
Another thing you probably didn't take into account is VRM and backside mobo socket cooling. These become a necessity above 4.8GHz on most boards in order to keep the VRM cool and prevent your system from thermal throttling due to socket temps. You need VRM fans on your VRM heatsinks and maybe even a backside fan on your motherboard in order to help cool the socket wich is now trying to transfer 220W+ of power!

ONE MORE THING!
Like I said! 200x25 may not be stable. But what happens when you put in say.... 225x22.5 or even 250x20 or any of the countless possible FSB OC combinations? You guessed it! Going for a mixed OC may be your only bet at getting an OC stable! SAY WAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wth.gif WAT WITCHCRAFT IS THIS! BLACK VOODOO MAGIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ONE MORE THING!
Don't forget those FSB dead spots that every FX chip has in the FSB's 215MHz to 240MHz region!

Now. Instead of trolling the pros. Yes the pros. The people who have played with Vishera since day one. The people who have played with the quad,hex and octo versions. The people who have clocked on LN2. The people who have tried all the motherboards out there. (Exept maybe the 4+1's. They are smart enought to avoid those like the plague!) Those very same pros I LEARNED FROM. The very same pros who taught me what I needed to know in order to spend 2 months! Yes! 2 MONTHS to finally dial in my 4.9GHz @ 1.55V with a COMBINED RAM (2060MHz @ 9-9-10-24 at 1T) AND NB(2580MHz) OC on my Cheap M5A99FX Pro board. (that is considered mediocre for high clocks) (I do not claim to be one of the pros. I only clock with water. So I can claim the Competence badge!) Why don't you LEARN from them? Hmm?


Now unlike the scrub nub who posted that he had 5.5GHz stable on air. lachen.gifthumb.gif Cool story bro. THERE IS NO PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So guess what? IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!I can claim 4.9GHz! CAUSE I CAN HAZ PROOFZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! proof.gif



WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What am I DOING? Why post pics of my stable 4.9GHz on water runs GUIZ!?!?!?!?!?! I RUN 7GHz 24/7 stable on the stock air cooler AMD supplies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 50 runs of IBT ON MAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I forgot to take pics. BUT I SWEAR IT IS TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited by Alastair - 11/11/14 at 1:42pm
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Al,

You Are Wrong. biggrin.gif
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Puts,

When everyone else is doing this, you are the other guy. wheee.gif

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Edited by mus1mus - 11/11/14 at 1:49pm
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posting a video doesn't make your statement valid nor does it invalidate what i said....you are the one who is confused on more than one topic smile.gif
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