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Oh dear, there are a few things WRONG with your assertion. Might want to study up on TDP and go from there smile.gif

nah ill save him the trouble.. as google doesn't seem to be the strong point

The thermal design power (TDP), sometimes called thermal design point, is the maximum amount of heat generated by the CPU that the cooling system in a computer is required to dissipate in typical operation. Rather than specifying CPU's real power dissipation, TDP serves as the nominal value for designing CPU cooling systems.[1]

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and don't forget the where you read the wattage from, since most tests are from the wall due to the tester.. well then you lose a share of it when converting AC to DC.. But Com'on Puts you should already know..

Le sigh give it a break your hoarse id dead and you cant make it drink..

maybe you are trying to make us drink.. but theres better ways than the one that you are taking.. as in.. throw a party and bring everyone a 6 pack haha
You forget that if you go AC to DC than when your 750w psu is 80% effenciny then from wall it takes something 900w from wall @ 750w DC. And AMD specs are for DC 220W and not AC
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You forget that if you go AC to DC than when your 750w psu is 80% effenciny then from wall it takes something 900w from wall @ 750w DC. And AMD specs are for DC 220W and not AC


and you forgot that I know a lot more so does everyone else that you are trying to pick a fight with i completely shot you down and made you look like a fool already

in case you missed it the first time

The thermal design power (TDP), sometimes called thermal design point, is the maximum amount of heat generated by the CPU that the cooling system in a computer is required to dissipate in typical operation. Rather than specifying CPU's real power dissipation, TDP serves as the nominal value for designing CPU cooling systems.[1]
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You can pick up 2400 2x4GB sticks for around 100usd or so.. about the same price as any other ram.. 2 sticks at 2400 is normally good.. try to find a cas -9 or 10 though

so where in the world are you located?
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and you forgot that I know a lot more so does everyone else that you are trying to pick a fight with i completely shot you down and made you look like a fool already

in case you missed it the first time

The thermal design power (TDP), sometimes called thermal design point, is the maximum amount of heat generated by the CPU that the cooling system in a computer is required to dissipate in typical operation. Rather than specifying CPU's real power dissipation, TDP serves as the nominal value for designing CPU cooling systems.[1]

Sorry but i dont understand you how you shot and why? I understand your text that you think 750W psu can reality only takes 600w dc and 750w for 750w psu means that he can take 750w only in wall and then i said you was wrong and 750w psu with 80% efficeny can take from wall about 900w
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and don't forget the where you read the wattage from, since most tests are from the wall due to the tester.. well then you lose a share of it when converting AC to DC.. But Com'on Puts you should already know..

Le sigh give it a break your hoarse id dead and you cant make it drink..

maybe you are trying to make us drink.. but theres better ways than the one that you are taking.. as in.. throw a party and bring everyone a 6 pack haha
You forget that if you go AC to DC than when your 750w psu is 80% effenciny then from wall it takes something 900w from wall @ 750w DC. And AMD specs are for DC 220W and not AC
That is exactly the point. So that means that if your draws say 100W at idle from the wall and then goes to 350W at the wall when stressing your CPU. Your CPU might only be using 200W. But you are loosing the rest to the switching from AC to DC. Which is exactly what Flail was getting at. TDP does not represent power consumption. Only heat generated. AMD is not saying that the CPU will consume 220W DC LOL! lachen.gif The TDP is a GUIDLINE on heat output. Have you forgotten that heat can be measured in watts too? Cause if you remember correctly from your standard 5 science classes, that heat is a form of energy. And energy can be measured in watts. So this means that cooling manufactures can produce effective cooling solutions for the processors. It does not mean that the processor will consume 220W under load. Sometimes it is more sometimes less. The only thing us consumers have to go by when it comes to working out our power consumption is a "relatively" accurate wall meter. Obviously the accuracy depends on your PSU's efficiency rating and whether or not it can ACTUALLY MAINTAIN the rating. Platinum PSU users such as myself will get a closer reading at the wall to what we are pulling than what Bronze users will get. Really dude. you are making a fool look smarter than you? Do you even try bro?
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Sorry but i dont understand you how you shot and why? I understand your text that you think 750W psu can reality only takes 600w dc and 750w for 750w psu means that he can take 750w only in wall and then i said you was wrong and 750w psu with 80% efficeny can take from wall about 900w

You have a reading comprehension problem. They do have help studies for that..

Now.. The Wattage from the wall would be 750w + 20% if fully loaded under worse case scenario which the wattage still has nothing to do with how you are trying to figure 220w for the chip as that is the TDP

TDP is the thermal dissipation or to but in lower terms.. It is the heat dissipation that happens when the electrical current is used due to resistance..

So you assumptions and math are completely wrong ad TDP does not actually specify the actual wattage use of the processor. and your figures are grossly inaccurate!

never feel Congratulations on the Dunce cap today.. So stop bothering to argue..
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I talk that TDP are from DC and not from AC so its always same because and only AC can be different because some of that goes to heat.
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You have a reading comprehension problem. They do have help studies for that..

Now.. The Wattage from the wall would be 750w + 20% if fully loaded under worse case scenario which the wattage still has nothing to do with how you are trying to figure 220w for the chip as that is the TDP

TDP is the thermal dissipation or to but in lower terms.. It is the heat dissipation that happens when the electrical current is used due to resistance..

So you assumptions and math are completely wrong ad TDP does not actually specify the actual wattage use of the processor. and your figures are grossly inaccurate!

never feel Congratulations on the Dunce cap today.. So stop bothering to argue..
I talk that TDP are from DC and not from AC so its always same because and only AC can be different because some of that goes to heat.
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I talk that TDP are from DC and not from AC so its always same because and only AC can be different because some of that goes to heat.
I talk that TDP are from DC and not from AC so its always same because and only AC can be different because some of that goes to heat.

So if DC does not dissipate heat as you just said.. then why do we have to have heatsinks on the motherboard at all?

to break it down you are confused.

TDP is not power consumption but amount of heat that is dissipated
The wattage that you are trying to say is used then you are talking power consumption

you are taking two things that have nothing to do with each other and saying they are the same thing
Edited by F3ERS 2 ASH3S - 11/12/14 at 9:10am
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Sorry but i dont understand you how you shot and why? I understand your text that you think 750W psu can reality only takes 600w dc and 750w for 750w psu means that he can take 750w only in wall and then i said you was wrong and 750w psu with 80% efficeny can take from wall about 900w

Forget the power requirement and think about the heat generated. Think how hot a 100 watt (old style) light bulb gets, now triple it, this is the heat you hve to get rid of. AMD's guideline is 70 degrees c so we that know do all we can to cool below that.most of the guys here use custom loops, those like me who can't afford this use AIO coolers and lots of fans on the VRMs one back of the board. We all struggle to deal with this heat.
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