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so essentially these temp files get corrupted then they are loaded into page file or regular ram? Then the the os processes the erred over and over since it's cached? Or am I missing something sorry if I sound ignorant just trying trying to understand smile.gif

I hate to do a link thing however this goes down to the fundamental operations of how windows works this will explain a lot

http://www.compukiss.com/tutorials/temporary-files-explained.html
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"Errant Temp Files

Occasionally, a temporary file will find its way into the root directory of the C drive. These errant files can interfere with the computer’s operations. Every few months, you may want to click on My Computer, click on the C: drive, and scroll down. If you see any files that end in .tmp, you can safely delete them by highlighting and pressing the Delete key. If you see other .tmp files while you are working on your computer, they may be the files that are open on your computer at that time. You will not be able to delete a temp file that is actively being used. If, however, the .tmp file is not being currently used, you can delete it with no adverse consequences."

defragging if you are running an HDD and using disk cleanup to clear error reports and logs can also help.. If you do not understand a lot of what I am saying then this would be a subject matter you may want to read up on.. I can answer a lot of questions however (unfortunately) I don't have the full time to explain it all as it has taken me a great deal of time and learning to get where I am.

and this will further explain in a way
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/211632
Edited by F3ERS 2 ASH3S - 11/21/14 at 11:23am
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Yeah, it was a time limited sale


I lucked out I guess, and at 4.0/4.2GHZ I won't need to overclock. It will replace a 4.0GHz Phenom 965BE in my Sabertooth R2.0, I doubt I'll notice any difference.
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I got 4.7 stable on my 8350 yesterday. Moving toward the big five-0
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... for the last week I've been closely monitoring my temps on my 5.1 OC.... normal use/ gaming max core was 54.5 the whole time... and max socket was 56C... and I was actually thinking of backing off a bit due to heat... then I remembered the old days on my first 8 core cpu... 8150.. using stock cooler and it would get so hot gaming that it would actually throttle... well... then I thought about when I got the H80 cooler & 8350 and temps would max out at 60C or so at only 4.5ghz on my old 8350 while in game for long times.... sooo... tell me again why it is now that mid 50's max bothers me??? lol

... btw normal usage for me does reach 100% usage for short times.... however gaming usually generates the most socket heat, but the peak core temp came from short periods of high usage.
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I hate to do a link thing however this goes down to the fundamental operations of how windows works this will explain a lot

http://www.compukiss.com/tutorials/temporary-files-explained.html
defragging if you are running an HDD and using disk cleanup to clear error reports and logs can also help.. If you do not understand a lot of what I am saying then this would be a subject matter you may want to read up on.. I can answer a lot of questions however (unfortunately) I don't have the full time to explain it all as it has taken me a great deal of time and learning to get where I am.

and this will further explain in a way
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/211632
i understand what a temp file is...and why they are created i just dont see exactly how they could affect stability unless windows was trying to use them or is it the fact that windows has to sift through them to find the right non corrupted versions? I know about defrag and how it works making files contiguous instead of fragmented all over the drive after deleting and moving files...i make it a habit to periodically remove unneeded registry entries/keys but i often forget about simply cleaning temp folders smile.gif

EDIT: to note i actually only had about 2mb of temp files in the two above folders and one tmp file in root directory of 128kb...
Edited by mfknjadagr8 - 11/21/14 at 1:59pm
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i understand what a temp file is...and why they are created i just dont see exactly how they could affect stability unless windows was trying to use them or is it the fact that windows has to sift through them to find the right non corrupted versions? I know about defrag and how it works making files contiguous instead of fragmented all over the drive after deleting and moving files...i make it a habit to periodically remove unneeded registry entries/keys but i often forget about simply cleaning temp folders smile.gif

EDIT: to note i actually only had about 2mb of temp files in the two above folders and one tmp file in root directory of 128kb...

Temp files are the short information blocks that the applications create to reference faster, since they are modified or created continuously well there is a log of room for error, normally it is limited to an application that stops working correctly or its a temp file for the actual OS that can cause an issue, I was just suggesting to check them as they have been known to cause issues here and there if corrupted..

All it takes is 1 bad temp file to cause issues.

Unless you are experiencing degradation or something changed (which I highly doubt either is the case unless the chip got super hot) or you have a malfunctioning part (IE. PSU or HDD can cause possibly RAM, however ram normally spits off other issues in conjunction) my suggestion would be a first go

another thing that it could be if all of the above are tested and fine well you may have a bug/malware... Or even better yet corupted Registry or corupted BIOS.. In fact it wouldn't hurt to write down your settings and reflash the BIOS (use the same one, different BIOS versions tend to fluctuate the voltages here and there and basically you have to reclock anyway) another user on the forums here also found out that their SSD had a firmware update, once the UP was applied their system started to work again.. My suggestion was a sure test to make sure that it wasn't something funky going on.

If you are using an older BIOS version, updating to a newer one may also help as updates can also cause issues between the BIOS and the OS

At this point all you can do is go down the list and check each part one by one to see where it faults at.. no one will be able to tell you directly as this is pure troubleshooting. Hope I have given you some really good ideas and a direction to look at least

a good program to run that may help is combo fix if you are on win 7 or earlier (does not work on 8 or 8.1)

EDIT: Windows has no way of telling if the temp file is corrupted unless it can't open it .. there could be a null or off value that later on in the calculation returns a bad result.. very hard to say exact cause.. unless of course you are the designer of the program/application OS or so fourth and know what the exact results are supposed to be in the coding..
Edited by F3ERS 2 ASH3S - 11/21/14 at 2:41pm
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Running 50 runs of IBT at Very High at the moment.

Quick question guys, at what temp does the chip starts throttling? tongue.gif

Does throttling affect Speed (Gigaflops score)?


And edit:

I will be setting up a 3570K today. (don't kill me guys) The thing will be built into a small lian li case. Water cooled. 5GHz?
Edited by mus1mus - 11/21/14 at 4:03pm
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Running 50 runs of IBT at Very High at the moment.

Quick question guys, at what temp does the chip starts throttling? tongue.gif

Does throttling affect Speed (Gigaflops score)?


And edit:

I will be setting up a 3570K today. (don't kill me guys) The thing will be built into a small lian li case. Water cooled. 5GHz?

5ghz on Ivy might be a tough one
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Running 50 runs of IBT at Very High at the moment.

Quick question guys, at what temp does the chip starts throttling? tongue.gif

Does throttling affect Speed (Gigaflops score)?


And edit:

I will be setting up a 3570K today. (don't kill me guys) The thing will be built into a small lian li case. Water cooled. 5GHz?

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlailScHLAMP View Post

5ghz on Ivy might be a tough one

So I've heard. Haven't touched it yet as well..

Would be a lady's rig so I'll see what can be done. smile.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

Running 50 runs of IBT at Very High at the moment.

Quick question guys, at what temp does the chip starts throttling? tongue.gif

Does throttling affect Speed (Gigaflops score)?


And edit:

I will be setting up a 3570K today. (don't kill me guys) The thing will be built into a small lian li case. Water cooled. 5GHz?

5ghz on Ivy might be a tough one

will be !
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