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Thanks. Week 21 is May, that's pretty old inventory, which makes me think they may have stopped manufacturing 8350s. And yeah I doubt we'll see anything new for AM3+

BTW, Amazon shipped this in an envelope by mail, the box is dented and heatsink slightly damaged, CPU looks OK though.

I got a 8320 purchased 45 days ago (in Finland) that is 1406. It is possible that they have stopped or will soon stop making 8320s and 8350s but only because the E models are out.

No. Because not all 8370s and 8320s can run at 95w.

It's called binning. All Piledriver FX chips are the exact same chip. The only difference is clocks and cores enabled, and not all of them will be able to run as light as an E chip.

would it be safe to assume that these "new" FX(e) bins are former Opteron bins?

or is it more likely the process has matured enough for warrant the extra binned categories?

^^sorry if that isn't clear
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Thanks. Week 21 is May, that's pretty old inventory, which makes me think they may have stopped manufacturing 8350s. And yeah I doubt we'll see anything new for AM3+

BTW, Amazon shipped this in an envelope by mail, the box is dented and heatsink slightly damaged, CPU looks OK though.

I got a 8320 purchased 45 days ago (in Finland) that is 1406. It is possible that they have stopped or will soon stop making 8320s and 8350s but only because the E models are out.

No. Because not all 8370s and 8320s can run at 95w.

It's called binning. All Piledriver FX chips are the exact same chip. The only difference is clocks and cores enabled, and not all of them will be able to run as light as an E chip.

would it be safe to assume that these "new" FX(e) bins are former Opteron bins?

or is it more likely the process has matured enough for warrant the extra binned categories?

^^sorry if that isn't clear

They're all former Opteron bins. FX is the same die as all Warsaw Opterons.

But no, AMD has a history of improving their chips over time as the process matures. Phenom II was the same way.
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would it be safe to assume that these "new" FX(e) bins are former Opteron bins?

or is it more likely the process has matured enough for warrant the extra binned categories?

^^sorry if that isn't clear

If you look back at the history of "e" versions in AM3 Athlon II, this is happened.

1) AMD launches Athlon 600e and 605e (45W) at the same time with Athlon 620 and 630 (95W).
2) One year later, launches Athlon 610e and 615e, with higher clocks, all at 45W.

It is noteworthy, that the 615e was 2.5Ghz at 45W, while the 620 was 2.6 at 95W.

As the process was refined, they were able to get higher clocks with the same TDP, to the point that they almost reached the 620 that had double the TDP.
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post #43414 of 67911
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No. Because not all 8370s and 8320s can run at 95w.

It's called binning. All Piledriver FX chips are the exact same chip. The only difference is clocks and cores enabled, and not all of them will be able to run as light as an E chip.

I remember caming to that knowledge a couple of years ago.
Woot?

Aren't the highest clocked cpu's some kind of alien stuff?
They are all the same? Really?

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Alright guys, I got to 5 ghz bootable and usable, i just can't get it stable. Any tips on getting it stable? http://valid.x86.fr/q7q13e
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Alright guys, I got to 5 ghz bootable and usable, i just can't get it stable. Any tips on getting it stable? http://valid.x86.fr/q7q13e

More voltage to the chip, both of my 8350's need around 1.53 volts + at load to be stable at 5 ghz.. The 9370 is around 1.51. I've not played with the 8370 e enough to know yet.

I would be careful though, that board has a reputation for eating chips.

I'd back off to around 4.8 ghz and try OCCT , do a quick 10 minute run , paying attention to the temp and voltage graphs it creates. Doing so at your own risk of course - good luck.
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Alright guys, I got to 5 ghz bootable and usable, i just can't get it stable. Any tips on getting it stable? http://valid.x86.fr/q7q13e

What is your cpu-nb voltage?
Could raise that if not done already. Try 1.2v - 1.25v

And your cpu voltage is probably too low.
I need around 1.54v for a 4.9 clock.
    
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No. Because not all 8370s and 8320s can run at 95w.

It's called binning. All Piledriver FX chips are the exact same chip. The only difference is clocks and cores enabled, and not all of them will be able to run as light as an E chip.

Just forgot that besides the e chips there is also the 8370. On a SKU basis I wouldn't be surprised if the 8350 just vanishes at some point, leaving behind the 8320/8320E and 8370/8370E.
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No. Because not all 8370s and 8320s can run at 95w.

It's called binning. All Piledriver FX chips are the exact same chip. The only difference is clocks and cores enabled, and not all of them will be able to run as light as an E chip.

Just forgot that besides the e chips there is also the 8370. On a SKU basis I wouldn't be surprised if the 8350 just vanishes at some point, leaving behind the 8320/8320E and 8370/8370E.

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