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I don't think so no.
It will heat up a bit, more then the reference gpu, because it dumps the heat inside the case.

What were your idle temps before?
Which paste did you use? And how did you apply it?


Just made an idle shot to compare:
4.7 clock @ 1.44v


Mine is actually very low...
Ambient is around 19c I think.

I can't remember my idle temps but I believe they were much more stable, prolimatech pk-3, and a small dot in the middle, what's the general consensus for paste with Pro overclockers ? maybe I didn't put enough, scared of putting too much..
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Sounds like either a bad mount or you need some better airflow to get rid of the GPU's heat.

Try Prime95 with the side off your case and you'll have an answer to which it is

Yea good Idea I tryed... didn't change much, it's like 33...spike to 37, 33...spike to 39, very strange, I guess I'll reapply paste tomorow.. mad.gif

Also I click on a webpage or just have a twitch open and it instantly goes to 50.. seems like bubbles or something, surely shouldn't move that fast for so little CPU usage.
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I can't remember my idle temps but I believe they were much more stable, prolimatech pk-3, and a small dot in the middle, what's the general consensus for paste with Pro overclockers ? maybe I didn't put enough, scared of putting too much..
Yea good Idea I tryed... didn't change much, it's like 33...spike to 37, 33...spike to 39, very strange, I guess I'll reapply paste tomorow.. mad.gif

Also I click on a webpage or just have a twitch open and it instantly goes to 50.. seems like bubbles or something, surely shouldn't move that fast for so little CPU usage.

Do a re-mount the way you did the paste before. Then remove the cooler again to see how it spread.

I can't recall how that cooler is secured. Try pushing it on the cpu and holding, while you secure it with screws or the lever or whatever.

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So I've been told IBT is the program to test stability? well that program hates me, I've always done p95 tests 10min for tweaking quick tweaking, 2hr and 12hr overnight to confirm , then video games & general use.

When only using prime, I was prime stable last winter when I have nature on my side giving me some heat headroom I could do 4.5 @1.380~1.416v (avg and peak) with normal LLC and it passed the 12 hr without going over 62c.
I didn't have any problem for a few months but when it got warm I then reverted all my OC and went stock for the summer because my room would be crazy hot even with AC.

Now that Its cold again, I decided to start up again from stock.
So far its the same as last winter I can go upto 4.0 prime&game stable with stock 1.275v and normal LLC power savings off but CnQ ON, I personally don't mind if it throttles me when I hit 70c, because I don't want my cpu going past that ever.
But with IBT I fail the test with 4.0, with 3.9 I've gotten to pass, but I haven't gotten anything else to pass even going up to with 4.0-5.0 using 1.4v-1.51v to see if something would (which I found out I can boot 5.0 at 1.5, I can't do prime at all because of heat, but I was able to play half a 500 round game of bf4 before it crashed even when temps were under just 70c at the time.) devil.gif I really wanna get a new cooler now.

I'm back down to the 3.9/4.0 issue when using IBT. I can't get 4.0 IBT stable even with 1.4v which is messed because it works fine with p95 and everything else at stock volts. Should I consider 4.0 stable and move to 4.1 or find out why ibt is failing?

also is there way to tell why IBT fails a test? I tried googlling the results I'd get in the runs, but I couldn't find anything.

is the test finishing all the runs then saying you failed?
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is the test finishing all the runs then saying you failed?

Good point.
I have that since upgrading to Win8.1.

I ignore it. Because it happens almost all the time.
The 10 run scores are close to equal though, so I call that stable.
    
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is the test finishing all the runs then saying you failed?

Good point.
I have that since upgrading to Win8.1.

I ignore it. Because it happens almost all the time.
The 10 run scores are close to equal though, so I call that stable.

just set IBT to run for an absurd amount of runs and stop it after an hour or two.
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just set IBT to run for an absurd amount of runs and stop it after an hour or two.

Simple enough.

Do you think I could be rock stable?
With the 4.7 oc @ 1.44v LLC Very high, 1.47v peak.
    
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just set IBT to run for an absurd amount of runs and stop it after an hour or two.

Simple enough.

Do you think I could be rock stable?
With the 4.7 oc @ 1.44v LLC Very high, 1.47v peak.

each chip is different.. My chip wouldn't be stable at those volts. but i got a bit of a piggy.

set custom runs, 6100mb+ memory , set for absurd # of run, come back after two hours..

if it is still running, I would say its fair to consider it fairly stable.

two hours isn't enough for me in my use case (i can have my rig loaded down for longer then 2 hours)

4-5 hours i feel confidant with (in custom settings)

if you are only gaming for a few hour a day. 2hrs+ should be fine.
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each chip is different.. My chip wouldn't be stable at those volts. but i got a bit of a piggy.

set custom runs, 6100mb+ memory , set for absurd # of run, come back after two hours..

if it is still running, I would say its fair to consider it fairly stable.

two hours isn't enough for me in my use case (i can have my rig loaded down for longer then 2 hours)

4-5 hours i feel confidant with (in custom settings)

if you are only gaming for a few hour a day. 2hrs+ should be fine.

It depends on the usage you normally do indeed.
Gaming mostly uses the cpu pretty lightly compared to the gpu.

I will give it a shot when I get back home this afternoon.
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each chip is different.. My chip wouldn't be stable at those volts. but i got a bit of a piggy.

set custom runs, 6100mb+ memory , set for absurd # of run, come back after two hours..

if it is still running, I would say its fair to consider it fairly stable.

two hours isn't enough for me in my use case (i can have my rig loaded down for longer then 2 hours)

4-5 hours i feel confidant with (in custom settings)

if you are only gaming for a few hour a day. 2hrs+ should be fine.

It depends on the usage you normally do indeed.
Gaming mostly uses the cpu pretty lightly compared to the gpu.

I will give it a shot when I get back home this afternoon.
75% ram and 100 runs. biggrin.gif

that 6100mb is based on you having 8gb of memory and your system reserving so many mbs

for me 6100mb-6300mb is about 92% of my available use able memory.
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My new 8350 is here, week 21, a good batch? Are they all PGS? I wonder if they've actually stopped making them.




Thanks for all the comments. Core temp reads very low, I'm extrapolating that it needs a CPU core temp offset of +15. Is that about correct?

I contact-tested several heatsinks bare-metal and used the one that stuck the most. Runs cooler than Phenom II and is undervolting, i.e. runs 4.0 GHz (P2) at the voltage of 3.4 Ghz (P3).

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.:. General
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  AMD family 0x15, model 0x2 CPU, 8 cores
  Default reference clock: 200 MHz
  Available multipliers: 0.5 .. 31.5
  Available voltage IDs: 0 .. 1.55 (0.0125 steps)

.:. Turbo
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  unlocked

.:. P-states
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  Turbo P-states: P0 P1
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  P0: 21x at 1.425V
      NorthBridge in NB_P0
  P1: 20.5x at 1.3875V
      NorthBridge in NB_P0
  P2: 20x at 1.3125V
      NorthBridge in NB_P0
  P3: 17x at 1.2125V
      NorthBridge in NB_P0
  P4: 14x at 1.1125V
      NorthBridge in NB_P0
  P5: 10.5x at 1V
      NorthBridge in NB_P0
  P6: 7x at 0.875V
      NorthBridge in NB_P0
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  NB_P0: 11x at 1.1625V
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