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imho, too many factors for a simple answer.

Memory is very dependent of many things. Chip IMC, motherboard, and memory stick type, brand, IC, bin etc.

Aida is really the best for ram testing(to see what setting are better) but i've not gotten around to actually buying the program, so i've been using a ramdisk with crystal disk mark to gauge how my tweaks fare.

maxxmem is as buggy as a ubisoft game, nigh on useless to use this on this platform, unless your looking for odd bugged scores..

I personally stay in the 2000mhz-2400mhz range with varying cas latency.. Speed and latency are a balancing act when overclocking and tweaking ram.

Speed is great, but if the CL isn't progressing at a reasonable rate, the speed is essentially for nothing. while you can improve lack luster speed but tightening the latency if it allows it, the gains will be limited.

Also if you are only gaming, if you are not playing games like BF4, crysis 3 or something significantly multi threaded, you will not likely notice much in terms of gains. certain things may feel snappier

the majority of the CPU needs to be utilized to see the benefits in games from faster ram, in poorly coded and bottle-necked situations, faster ram isn't going to help you.

That's about as far as I was already. tongue.gif
Ram is difficult to optimize.

But you are so true on poorly coded games, the majority it seems lately.

The ramdisk thing is a pretty good idea actually.


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When I do a fsb/Multi combo OC I can achieve 1T, but getting it stable with a high cpu overclock is difficult somehow:
    
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imho, too many factors for a simple answer.

Memory is very dependent of many things. Chip IMC, motherboard, and memory stick type, brand, IC, bin etc.

Aida is really the best for ram testing(to see what setting are better) but i've not gotten around to actually buying the program, so i've been using a ramdisk with crystal disk mark to gauge how my tweaks fare.

maxxmem is as buggy as a ubisoft game, nigh on useless to use this on this platform, unless your looking for odd bugged scores..

I personally stay in the 2000mhz-2400mhz range with varying cas latency.. Speed and latency are a balancing act when overclocking and tweaking ram.

Speed is great, but if the CL isn't progressing at a reasonable rate, the speed is essentially for nothing. while you can improve lack luster speed but tightening the latency if it allows it, the gains will be limited.

Also if you are only gaming, if you are not playing games like BF4, crysis 3 or something significantly multi threaded, you will not likely notice much in terms of gains. certain things may feel snappier

the majority of the CPU needs to be utilized to see the benefits in games from faster ram, in poorly coded and bottle-necked situations, faster ram isn't going to help you.

That's about as far as I was already. tongue.gif
Ram is difficult to optimize.

But you are so true on poorly coded games, the majority it seems lately.

The ramdisk thing is a pretty good idea actually.
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Which of the two would you prefer?




When I do a fsb/Multi combo OC I can achieve 1T, but getting it stable with a high cpu overclock is difficult somehow:

given those settings, I'd go with 2133mhz.

you prolly gunna need 2700mhz NB to match or exceed your 2133mhz score with 2400.
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Hey guys! I'm new to the club, I've just recently put this system together! Now, let's get to overclocking...

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CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($114.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 300 55.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: GeIL DRAGON 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL DRAGON 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $671.39
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Hey guys! I'm new to the club, I've just recently put this system together! Now, let's get to overclocking...

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CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($114.99 @ Amazon)
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Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: GeIL DRAGON 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL DRAGON 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $671.39
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Meh mobo, try and get your hands on a 990FX-UD3+ level one. Cooler also is not suited to beyond 4.4\4.5GHz voltage.
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Meh mobo, try and get your hands on a 990FX-UD3+ level one. Cooler also is not suited to beyond 4.4\4.5GHz voltage.

I was on a tight budget. I had to squeeze it a little bit to get that mobo, I wanted to get MSI 970A G-43 originally rolleyes.gif. I'm not planning to OC so much, just a little bit.

BTW, what temp is suitable for this CPU? I can't find an straight answer anywhere... some say 62 C, some say 70 C... redface.gif
 
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Meh mobo, try and get your hands on a 990FX-UD3+ level one. Cooler also is not suited to beyond 4.4\4.5GHz voltage.

I was on a tight budget. I had to squeeze it a little bit to get that mobo, I wanted to get MSI 970A G-43 originally rolleyes.gif. I'm not planning to OC so much, just a little bit.

BTW, what temp is suitable for this CPU? I can't find an straight answer anywhere... some say 62 C, some say 70 C... redface.gif

AMD's overdrive application lists the thermal limits to these chips as 70*, that 62* thing was carried over from pheonem days iirc
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A few add ons to the 8350 build.
    
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New 8350 -- Stock



http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/display.php?id=32703365499
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seriously for shadows of moridor i had to enable 35gb of pagefile o_0 what are devs thinking ! !! ! ! ! ! !
that must be why that game wont run for me. set my page file to 500 MB max (ssd)

ive always thought of the page file as a relic from days when systems were ram limited....

came across so many articles when i got my first ssd's saying that you can, or almost completely shut off page file if you have over 8 GB of ram. Supposedly the constant page file writes can wear out SSDs, as standard page file is on C:/ and thats the first place an SSD goes, most said that it could be moved to another drive (HDD) or if you have tons of ram, just limit it to minimum.

ive only come across one application (before mordor) that required me to bump it up to 500MB from 100 think it was...?? everything else runs snappy as crap.

might have been going on some bad info...
Edited by TRusselo - 12/6/14 at 4:40pm
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Linus can't really get GT's to test them against, he isn't gonna spend money on fans that are not noctua's, and i don't think Servo cares too much about advertising so no review samples to "mainstream tech tubers" Not to mention they are EOL product now.

I would think that the industrial series from Noctua would be a nice comparison against GT fans. I've not seen anything like that yet.

I can't really stand corsair fans anymore. I'll use them as a intake fan behind a grill, but not on a rad, they don't seal well enough for my liking.

My set up is mainly bit phoenix Pro non LED fans, quieter then corsairs sp series, performs nearly the same with less RPM and it seals properly on my Rad.

I can buy them locally, and they are fairly cheap. They are not the best thing in the world, but they work. (currently running them @ 7v in push pull) i should go find my DB meter and see what is pumping out.
If megaman can get them then so can linus, he has bought things before from his own pocket to test so I find your point invalid, linus is a self confessed silence OCD freak so I think that falls well within reason of his preference.

As for fans on sealing properly, the only way you will get a fan to seal properly is to use a fan gasket to actually seal it, I have 1900rpm gentle typhoons and tbh they make a lot of noise to provide decent cooling. I would love to try some 5000rpm + fans but the noise would get to me in the end, I would also love to try some silverstone AP fans and noctuas just to see how they hold up to what I have now (which will prolly work better and cause less noise).

In reference to linus spending cash to test something see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmxAcVvAO40 he paid for that cable....... I'm sure he could get hold of some fans mate... rolleyes.gif
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