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that must be why that game wont run for me. set my page file to 500 MB max (ssd)

ive always thought of the page file as a relic from days when systems were ram limited....

came across so many articles when i got my first ssd's saying that you can, or almost completely shut off page file if you have over 8 GB of ram. Supposedly the constant page file writes can wear out SSDs, as standard page file is on C:/ and thats the first place an SSD goes, most said that it could be moved to another drive (HDD) or if you have tons of ram, just limit it to minimum.

ive only come across one application (before mordor) that required me to bump it up to 500MB from 100 think it was...?? everything else runs snappy as crap.

might have been going on some bad info...

the first thing i do on a fresh install is follow a guide to optimize windows 7 for SSD.

There is a section that says to disable the page file, later i discovered that i run in to all kinds of problems.

Its not advised to disable the page file because many programs use the page file and otherwise you simply run out of memory in a short time.

I had issues with Farcry 4 and simply running out of memory while i have 8gb.. turned the page file to 2048 and problem is gone.

I don't longer play that game because its utter crap and by far not optimized to play on PC.
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If you do a fresh install with an ssd. In windows uncheck defrag for your ssd it's not needed and can cause issues down the line
    
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If you do a fresh install with an ssd. In windows uncheck defrag for your ssd it's not needed and can cause issues down the line

Why is that? I've always been told that defragmentation is not needed with SSD's.

What issues are you revering to?
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It's not needed that why you want to Un check it. If you go into windows you'll see it's set to defrag it by default. It really just could slow things down and possibly corrupt files. I'm no expert my friend is a wiz with computers and showed me it was there by default and it is better to in check it so it doesn't defrag your ssd.
    
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seriously for shadows of moridor i had to enable 35gb of pagefile o_0 what are devs thinking ! !! ! ! ! ! !
uhmmm why I've had no issues with mine of course I have 8gb of ram and 16gb swap... I'm still stuck in the old days where double your ram was the norm

i think it has to do with the eyefinity i really dont know
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you are correct that is 100
50 for one pc 50 for the other !


TH10 and M8

Why such a crazy set up? don't you have a crazy amount of rad space? Surely those fans aren't needed?

th10 can hold 16 fans, while the M8 can do 32

likely duplicated or triplicated spares.. but push/pull with these will allow you to run these fans so low. it would be nice.

also you are neglecting to mention my peds biggrin.gif

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you are correct that is 100
50 for one pc 50 for the other !


TH10 and M8

Why such a crazy set up? don't you have a crazy amount of rad space? Surely those fans aren't needed?

Because Why Not?

Also, Mega has more than one rig, i don't know exactly how many but i think he has around 3-4 fully built ones and made enough parts to make another 20 or so tongue.gif
technically i have 1 fully built
the others are undergoing building/rebuilding, one i need to wait till after christmas, gonna send to FQ for custom res, the other i just need time, still making all my own PSU cables and frankly i am stumped as i cant figure out how i wanna run my cables ... i stare at it but my amd rig will not talk to me at all
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th10 can hold 16 fans, while the M8 can do 32

likely duplicated or triplicated spares.. but push/pull with these will allow you to run these fans so low. it would be nice.

True, but why not go for a pressure optimised set up like noctua fans or what have you? (I dunno what fans provide the best pressure to noise ratio, I know linus from linus tech tips rates noctua and silverstone AP fans for pressure and noise?)

Then again I can't really talk I asked for 8 SP120 high performance fans and they're said to be loud and don't generally perform amazingly well...

Linus can't really get GT's to test them against, he isn't gonna spend money on fans that are not noctua's, and i don't think Servo cares too much about advertising so no review samples to "mainstream tech tubers" Not to mention they are EOL product now.
they are not EOL scythe just does not sell them
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seriously for shadows of moridor i had to enable 35gb of pagefile o_0 what are devs thinking ! !! ! ! ! ! !
that must be why that game wont run for me. set my page file to 500 MB max (ssd)

ive always thought of the page file as a relic from days when systems were ram limited....

came across so many articles when i got my first ssd's saying that you can, or almost completely shut off page file if you have over 8 GB of ram. Supposedly the constant page file writes can wear out SSDs, as standard page file is on C:/ and thats the first place an SSD goes, most said that it could be moved to another drive (HDD) or if you have tons of ram, just limit it to minimum.

ive only come across one application (before mordor) that required me to bump it up to 500MB from 100 think it was...?? everything else runs snappy as crap.

might have been going on some bad info...
i still feel the same way, may put 64gb ram in this system to see if i can beat it this intels imc is a beast
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Linus can't really get GT's to test them against, he isn't gonna spend money on fans that are not noctua's, and i don't think Servo cares too much about advertising so no review samples to "mainstream tech tubers" Not to mention they are EOL product now.

I would think that the industrial series from Noctua would be a nice comparison against GT fans. I've not seen anything like that yet.

I can't really stand corsair fans anymore. I'll use them as a intake fan behind a grill, but not on a rad, they don't seal well enough for my liking.

My set up is mainly bit phoenix Pro non LED fans, quieter then corsairs sp series, performs nearly the same with less RPM and it seals properly on my Rad.

I can buy them locally, and they are fairly cheap. They are not the best thing in the world, but they work. (currently running them @ 7v in push pull) i should go find my DB meter and see what is pumping out.
If megaman can get them then so can linus, he has bought things before from his own pocket to test so I find your point invalid, linus is a self confessed silence OCD freak so I think that falls well within reason of his preference.

As for fans on sealing properly, the only way you will get a fan to seal properly is to use a fan gasket to actually seal it, I have 1900rpm gentle typhoons and tbh they make a lot of noise to provide decent cooling. I would love to try some 5000rpm + fans but the noise would get to me in the end, I would also love to try some silverstone AP fans and noctuas just to see how they hold up to what I have now (which will prolly work better and cause less noise).

In reference to linus spending cash to test something see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmxAcVvAO40 he paid for that cable....... I'm sure he could get hold of some fans mate... rolleyes.gif

linus is the FURTHEST i would trust with ANY cooling equip, he has some ok reviews, but NONE of his methods are worth while IMO not to mention he is not a real watercooler so further down the list he goes

http://martinsliquidlab.org/
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It's not needed that why you want to Un check it. If you go into windows you'll see it's set to defrag it by default. It really just could slow things down and possibly corrupt files. I'm no expert my friend is a wiz with computers and showed me it was there by default and it is better to in check it so it doesn't defrag your ssd.

in windows 7 first time you get your WEI it auto disables it when you are updated ( windows )
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the first thing i do on a fresh install is follow a guide to optimize windows 7 for SSD.

There is a section that says to disable the page file, later i discovered that i run in to all kinds of problems.

Its not advised to disable the page file because many programs use the page file and otherwise you simply run out of memory in a short time.

I had issues with Farcry 4 and simply running out of memory while i have 8gb.. turned the page file to 2048 and problem is gone.

I don't longer play that game because its utter crap and by far not optimized to play on PC.
i dunno what everyones problem with FC4 is. sure its not eyefinity optimized. running it in borderless mode to get proper aspect ratio is bull, disables crossfire.

but runs +40 FPS on my rig, which is nothing super special. 4320x900 eyefinity.

Page file currently set 800MB min 1200 max
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my problem.... unbisoft

they wont make a game that is playable ( lets say 95 % of the bug out of it, ) as they rush it as much as possible, they force you to have spyware on your pc !

the new ac... they locked at 30FPS

list goes on and on... basically they suck
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my problem.... unbisoft

they wont make a game that is playable ( lets say 95 % of the bug out of it, ) as they rush it as much as possible, they force you to have spyware on your pc !

the new ac... they locked at 30FPS

list goes on and on... basically they suck
tomb raider being an exception. it was a masterpiece. no game breaking bugs. played smooth. eyefinity compatible out of the box, excellent writing, voice acting, just perfect in my opinion. spyware?? dunno dont run into those issues with my "sources"
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it may not be in FC4 have not done the research but the others do to make sure you dont cheat on line ... iirc different programs
tomb raider was SE not UBI
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given those settings, I'd go with 2133mhz.

you prolly gunna need 2700mhz NB to match or exceed your 2133mhz score with 2400.

What do you think I need to do to make higher cpu-nb stable?
Just increase cpu-nb volts? And to how much is considered safe? Now at 1.3v

This is my current oc. Seems stable, past 10 runs of ibt avx on very high with pretty solid scores. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


IBT Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Edit:
Upped cpu-nb to 2700 by lowering the fsb and adjusting all multi's to stay around the same clocks for the rest.
Also upped cpu-nb to 1.35v, haven't tested for stability yet. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Edit 2: biggrin.gif
The higher cpu-nb also seems to like my gpu somehow:
The two runs below are both with 1200/1500 +100 on my gpu and the same cpu and ram clocks(the second being with a different fpsb/Multi combo).

2600: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

2700: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Bottleneck?
Edited by Chopper1591 - 12/7/14 at 6:31am
    
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