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That is very good temps. In June 2013 I had a UD3, 8350, single tower cooler combination @ 4.5 ghz. Back then I was using OCCT and hwmonitor and depending on the settings temps would be anywhere from very cool to overheating and throttling. Vcore was in the 1.416 - 1.44 range. I still have 3 charts showing max temps of 53, 59, and 64 C.
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ok, long story short, you do not want a 120/220 switch..... EVER

it is one of the signs of a cheap psu

Just curious as to why you think this? My Superflower has a switch, I just thought they did that for multiple markets?
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Just curious as to why you think this? My Superflower has a switch, I just thought they did that for multiple markets?
that's what I thought to but I know next to nothing about power supplies which is why I defer to the knowledgeable ones here on the forum before I buy one
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Can i join?

http://valid.x86.fr/xjbgvy

P.S. I am really impressed with these "new" Visheras.
Manage to get rock stable 4,9Ghz with 1,387vcore and tCase never went over 50 degrees celsius under load.
Cooling with Nepton 280l.

Testing done with 20 hours encoding.

For 5Ghz just little over 1,4vcore is needed.
So much better then my old FX8150.

EDIT: MB is ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0

Both HT and CPU/NB on 2600 with 1,23125v

Ofc,motherboard is cooled from backside with 140mm Glide stream and VRM is cooled with stock AMD fan from 8150.

VRM1 also never went more than 54 degrees.
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That's good man.. I struggled on that Voltage with a superior air cooler even with a fairly lapped ihs. But then again, my ambient was higher. Good chip maybe. But too high a voltage for the given clock mate.

You sure you can't lower the Vcore?


Yep one step lower on voltage and i get errors in AVX IBT, and 2 steps lower i get blue screens.
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Just curious as to why you think this? My Superflower has a switch, I just thought they did that for multiple markets?

I believe the general thought is, the fancier unit should do the switching on their own... (warning old man speak coming) in my day all psu's had switches... and only in recent years (past 10 or so) did auto switching units become the norm in the elite market to my knowledge...
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ok, long story short, you do not want a 120/220 switch..... EVER

it is one of the signs of a cheap psu

Just curious as to why you think this? My Superflower has a switch, I just thought they did that for multiple markets?

ok again i never said anything bad about it, i said you dont want it, it is one of the signs of a cheap power supply ... more or less here is why
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Picking the right power supply

Power Factor Correction:

The Power Factor of an AC electric power system is the ratio of the “real power” to the "apparent power."

(Paragraph from Dan's Data) Power factor correction (PFC) is, essentially, what you do to complex AC loads (such as PC switchmode power supplies) to make them act more like simple loads (such as toasters).

There are two types of PFC, Active PFC and Passive PFC. Active PFC uses a circuit to correct power factor. Active PFC is able to generate a theoretical power factor of over 95%. Active Power Factor Correction also markedly diminishes total harmonics, automatically corrects for AC input voltage, and is capable of a full range of input voltage. Since Active PFC is the more complex method of Power Factor Correction, it is definitely more expensive to produce an active PFC power supply.

Passive PFC uses a capacitive filter at the AC input to correct poor power factor. Passive PFC may be affected when environmental vibration occurs. Passive PFC requires that the AC input voltage be set manually. Passive PFC also does not use the full energy potential of the AC line.

In some parts of the world, customers of the utility companies are actually charged more for poor power factor. In the EU, you are simply not allowed to use an electronic device with a complex AC load without any kind of correction! So certain inexpensive power supplies are simply not available over in Europe.

Sometimes see certain models of power supplies available in the US with no PFC and available in the EU with PFC, but only capable of accepting a 230V input. Remember what I said about power supplies running more efficiently at 230V than they do at 115V? Same rule still applies here. The power factor correction circuitry isn’t going to get as hot with 230V coursing through it as it would with 115V because there is less current going through the circuit. Because less current is going through the circuitry, cheaper components can be used without any kind of performance or quality in service penalty. Makes you with the U.S. adopted 230V mains, doesn't it?

Despite being more efficient for your electric company, power factor may be less efficient to your power supply! The components used to correct power factor generate heat. Naturally, this heat didn’t come from nowhere. It’s using, and wasting, electricity. Furthermore, the heat being introduced to the other components of the power supply causing them to run hotter and therefore less efficient. Fortunately, power factor correction methods are becoming more and more efficient allowing for super-efficient power supplies WITH power factor correction.

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Most quality power supplies include Active PFC. Currently only lower quality power supplies use Passive PFC. Most people prefer to use Active PFC power supplies since Active PFC is more efficient and does not require manual switching when switching between different voltage (depending on which part of the world you are).

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ok again i never said anything bad about it, i said you dont want it, it is one of the signs of a cheap power supply ... more or less here is why
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googling PFC will help you learn more !~
that makes more sense....I got so accustomed to seeing that switch on them over the years I assumed it was still the norm...I guess those power supplies with the passive would not handle things as well when maxing them out for that reason?
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you can build quality power supplies with passive but incoming power is more dirty * this is how i understand it * but 98% of the time i have found if there is a power selection switch i look up reviews and find it is a bad psu
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you can build quality power supplies with passive but incoming power is more dirty * this is how i understand it * but 98% of the time i have found if there is a power selection switch i look up reviews and find it is a bad psu
I like a lot of dirty stuff lol but power isn't one of those things wink.gif

I thought you guys might get a kick out of this ive never seen "recommendations" that far off..just randomly looking at video cards.. clicked this one to see what was so special...

Edited by mfknjadagr8 - 12/11/14 at 9:09pm
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