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Originally Posted by Chopper1591 View Post

2700 is a nice clock.
Nothing to complain about.

1.6+ for 4.8 on the other hand. tongue.gif
Thought mine was extreme.

Does 4.8 with "only" ~1.5v
I haven't payed that much attention to the temp increase myself.
Thermals are fine here anyway.

Oh, be sure that with a 212 EVO you can "feel" the difference, and it's frustrating.
 
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Believe me or not, my CPU's thermals does not scale with CPU-NB Voltage. tongue.gif But really no point pushing it further as approaching 2700 and my chip's memory controller go berserk. doh.gif

2700 is a nice clock.
Nothing to complain about.

1.6+ for 4.8 on the other hand. tongue.gif
Thought mine was extreme.

Does 4.8 with "only" ~1.5v
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Lucky you, overclocking the NB gives me a 4-5 °C increase, no matter how far is that overclock.

I haven't payed that much attention to the temp increase myself.
Thermals are fine here anyway.
Mine also needs 1.5V for 4.8 and around 1.55-1.57 depending on the ambient temps for 4.9. I can't help but wonder if my chip would do better on a better board.
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Mine also needs 1.5V for 4.8 and around 1.55-1.57 depending on the ambient temps for 4.9. I can't help but wonder if my chip would do better on a better board.

Changing motherboard can completely change the situation, for better or for worse.

EXAMPLE: When I had an Asrock 990FX, 4 ghz could have only been done with 1.28 V (1.272 real).

Switched to a M5A97 EVO R2.0, I can get stable at 1.23 V, which is a big difference.

But I don't think there would be a great difference between a SABERTOOTH 990FX and a Crosshair V.

Still I need 1.49 V to get to 4.8 GHZ. And 1.52 for 4.95.
 
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Oh, be sure that with a 212 EVO you can "feel" the difference, and it's frustrating.

Hehe, yeah.
That one will certainly hold you back.

Don't have the problem with my 360 radiator. tongue.gif
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Mine also needs 1.5V for 4.8 and around 1.55-1.57 depending on the ambient temps for 4.9. I can't help but wonder if my chip would do better on a better board.

Maybe, maybe not.

You have the m5a99fx, right?
Thats not a bad board.
IMO chaning to another board for "maybe" a little extra headroom is not worth it.
For the money you would most likely be better of by getting another chip.

My money is also on the fact that you run 4 sticks of ram.
That does require more volts after all.

What do you run to call it stable?
Do you aim for completely stable, or stable enough?

thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by 3DVu View Post

Changing motherboard can completely change the situation, for better or for worse.

EXAMPLE: When I had an Asrock 990FX, 4 ghz could have only been done with 1.28 V (1.272 real).

Switched to a M5A97 EVO R2.0, I can get stable at 1.23 V, which is a big difference.

But I don't think there would be a great difference between a SABERTOOTH 990FX and a Crosshair V.

Still I need 1.49 V to get to 4.8 GHZ. And 1.52 for 4.95.

I have no real comparison, but I really think top end will be close to each other on every "decent" board.
Like you experienced, stock and mild overclock is where the biggest difference is.
    
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Hehe, yeah.
That one will certainly hold you back.

Don't have the problem with my 360 radiator. tongue.gif
Maybe, maybe not.

You have the m5a99fx, right?
Thats not a bad board.
IMO chaning to another board for "maybe" a little extra headroom is not worth it.
For the money you would most likely be better of by getting another chip.

My money is also on the fact that you run 4 sticks of ram.
That does require more volts after all.

What do you run to call it stable?
Do you aim for completely stable, or stable enough?

thumb.gif
I have no real comparison, but I really think top end will be close to each other on every "decent" board.
Like you experienced, stock and mild overclock is where the biggest difference is.

I don't think I would be able to achieve anything better from a better board, my chip strictly refuses to go over 5.1 GHZ at human voltage (which is 1.575 for me)

And I don't even know if 1.575 V are enough, didn't try them out, yet.

I'm waiting so much for the 29-30 that I could barely explode, I still remember the old days there 4.3 GHZ could only be done with 1.36 V, and now 1.36 V are for 4.5 GHZ at the very least.

I think overclocking is not only a way to achieve more performance, but a very complex challenge that, in the end, should give extreme satisfaction to everyone, knowing that you spent so much time working on this thing and now it's finally done, and you did it all by yourself.
 
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Didnt mean to offend you.
I can't tell someones experience level by the username

no worries you didn't offend me. Would have figured you would have seen some of my posts before. Cheers

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I don't think I would be able to achieve anything better from a better board, my chip strictly refuses to go over 5.1 GHZ at human voltage (which is 1.575 for me)

And I don't even know if 1.575 V are enough, didn't try them out, yet.

I'm waiting so much for the 29-30 that I could barely explode, I still remember the old days there 4.3 GHZ could only be done with 1.36 V, and now 1.36 V are for 4.5 GHZ at the very least.

I think overclocking is not only a way to achieve more performance, but a very complex challenge that, in the end, should give extreme satisfaction to everyone, knowing that you spent so much time working on this thing and now it's finally done, and you did it all by yourself.

Are you saying you are running 5.1 with the 212 evo? wha-smiley.png
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no worries you didn't offend me. Would have figured you would have seen some of my posts before. Cheers

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Probably.
I just can't remember every stuff I see here.
Sometimes I need to scroll to 10+ new pages when haven't been here for just one day. tongue.gif
    
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Oh, be sure that with a 212 EVO you can "feel" the difference, and it's frustrating.

Hehe, yeah.
That one will certainly hold you back.

Don't have the problem with my 360 radiator. tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by Alastair View Post

Mine also needs 1.5V for 4.8 and around 1.55-1.57 depending on the ambient temps for 4.9. I can't help but wonder if my chip would do better on a better board.

Maybe, maybe not.

You have the m5a99fx, right?
Thats not a bad board.
IMO chaning to another board for "maybe" a little extra headroom is not worth it.
For the money you would most likely be better of by getting another chip.

My money is also on the fact that you run 4 sticks of ram.
That does require more volts after all.

What do you run to call it stable?
Do you aim for completely stable, or stable enough?

thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by 3DVu View Post

Changing motherboard can completely change the situation, for better or for worse.

EXAMPLE: When I had an Asrock 990FX, 4 ghz could have only been done with 1.28 V (1.272 real).

Switched to a M5A97 EVO R2.0, I can get stable at 1.23 V, which is a big difference.

But I don't think there would be a great difference between a SABERTOOTH 990FX and a Crosshair V.

Still I need 1.49 V to get to 4.8 GHZ. And 1.52 for 4.95.

I have no real comparison, but I really think top end will be close to each other on every "decent" board.
Like you experienced, stock and mild overclock is where the biggest difference is.
Completely stable 4.8 GHz with 1.5 and 4.9GHz 1.57V with 20X runs of IBT at Very High. Rock solid never crashed.
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Definitely not a golden chip.

Could have been worse though, there are people who aren't even able to get 4.8 GHZ thumb.gif

That'd be a combination of a lot of things.

time spent to get to know the system
components quality
patience

Mine for example would not stabilize ising multi after 4.7GHz on whatever Voltage. But I can call my 4.9 stable by passing IBT 30 at least runs at very high and max. Temps are north of what everyone would recommend though. Kudos to the voltage it needs. tongue.gif
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2700 is a nice clock.
Nothing to complain about.


1.6+ for 4.8 on the other hand. tongue.gif
Thought mine was extreme.

Does 4.8 with "only" ~1.5v
I haven't payed that much attention to the temp increase myself.
Thermals are fine here anyway.

I said goes uncontrollable approaching 2700 right? tongue.gif

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Mine also needs 1.5V for 4.8 and around 1.55-1.57 depending on the ambient temps for 4.9. I can't help but wonder if my chip would do better on a better board.

Well, a better mobo can always guarantee and give you confidence that it's (ahem) better. biggrin.gif

You can try pushing things a little further knowing that you might get extra performance out of it. Kitty's advantage for example against lower end Asus' boards is the VRM and it's Cooling. 1.65 Vcore on highest Duty Cycle with a fan on them and you'll cruise at 70C. They can go past 100C before whistling danger FYI.

In short, you'll run out of chip cooling before you start worrying about them.
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I don't think I would be able to achieve anything better from a better board, my chip strictly refuses to go over 5.1 GHZ at human voltage (which is 1.575 for me)

And I don't even know if 1.575 V are enough, didn't try them out, yet.

I'm waiting so much for the 29-30 that I could barely explode, I still remember the old days there 4.3 GHZ could only be done with 1.36 V, and now 1.36 V are for 4.5 GHZ at the very least.

I think overclocking is not only a way to achieve more performance, but a very complex challenge that, in the end, should give extreme satisfaction to everyone, knowing that you spent so much time working on this thing and now it's finally done, and you did it all by yourself.
you are considering running a 212 evolution at 1.57 volts? Damn toasty
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Rosewill Photon 1200W Phanteks Enthoo Pro Logitech G5 or Steel Series MW2 edition Generic Cheapy 
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G.Skill rip jaws  Samsung 840 Pro WD BLUE 64MB Cache Ocz vertex 3 
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Swiftech h220x  alphacool nexxos st30 280mm radiator alphacool coolplex pro LT10 100mm reservoir Swiftech h220 rad only 
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Windows 7 64 Bit ENTERPRISE edition Acer 23" 1080p  asus 19" Dell Media Center  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Rosewill Photon 1200W Phanteks Enthoo Pro Logitech G5 or Steel Series MW2 edition Generic Cheapy 
AudioAudioAudio
GEMINI HSR-1000 Logitech 5.1 surround ZALMAN clip on mic 
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