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1.65 on the cpu nb?

that's crazy, maybe under ln2 that would be ok. That is how you fry chips. I wouldn't go past 1.55 on the cpu nb. Even that is considered really high.
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I said that I wanted to push my luck with those 5190 MHZ at 1.584 V, not that I wanted to suicide my CPU as quickly as possible (even though I would probably RMA it and get a newer CPU, since it seems the newer ones are also doing much better than ours (at least my FX))

Still, it was a nice experience, I could feel myself dying together with my chip, like we were one toghether into one perfect being: Half human, half low IPC CPU. It's the perfect combo.

As for the rookie rumble: There's no point in it if you don't like to post benchmarks on HWBot, so I guess it's only for personal satisfaction for being able to push your luck really far.

At least that would be the case if that contest was fair, which is not.

Also there's the lucky giveaway of a CM Seldom 120V+. It would be nice to win one, even though my H100i will be better. But still.

You don't RMA a cpu that you overclocked. You voided the warranty and abused it. Man up and buy another one
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1.55v is too high for my blood.. I get iffy once i hit 1.46v, I don't think i'll need to ever go above 2700nb/2400ram with these chips.

as to this RMA junk.. I never suggest abusing the system. Its bad karma for your gear. next thing you know an RMA won't be available when you genuinely need one
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FX Lover´s, i need your help.

People keep talking crap about FX idle/load temps saying you must add the ambient temp to them

Is this real?

Idle temp, i can agree...but load?no way...

One more Intel biased argument...thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Tasm View Post

FX Lover´s, i need your help.

People keep talking crap about FX idle/load temps saying you must add the ambient temp to them

Is this real?

Idle temp, i can agree...but load?no way...

One more Intel biased argument...thumb.gif

Megaman told me load temps are accurate to a certain degree, it still works it out and can be off by 10c initially but once it's been ticking over for some time that temp will be an accurate representation of it's true temp. Megaman isn't the only one to say this and these guys have been clocking these chips for god knows how long so knows his onions! smile.gif
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FX Lover´s, i need your help.

People keep talking crap about FX idle/load temps saying you must add the ambient temp to them

Is this real?

Idle temp, i can agree...but load?no way...

One more Intel biased argument...thumb.gif

Several half turths in this.

most FX (piledriver) cpus stop measuring temps accurately under 35C. once the cpu falls bellow that temp threshold the most common piledriver behavior is for the temps to get too low for reality. As 35C is plenty cool enough it doesn't really matter in the end.

Next, even when a piledriver is reporting its temps accurately, accurate is a "relative" term. You see, piledriver cpus, like all amd cpus since the phenom II don't actually have a "real" thermometer on the cpu. It uses some mathematical algorithm to estimate the chip temp. furthermore, on piledriver that correctly reported temp is pretty reliably -10C cooler then the reported socket temp on a motherboard.

now this is where it gets confusing because you'll see things about safe cpu temps. Typically those temps are given as core temps (65C) and socket temps (73C), generally at 65C reported core temps your cpu will start to throttle itself IF you left that option turned on in the bios. Meanwhile your motherboard typically will start to throttle your cpu when the socket temp hits around 73C (regardless what the bios is set to do).

since the socket temp often lags behind the "cpu" temps, usually taking 30-60 seconds to catch up and stabilize, there still is plenty of value in keeping an eye on core temps. Assuming your piledriver reports it's core temps accurately anyway. not all of them do. If your chip doesn't then you'll have to rely on the socket temps to guide you.


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To further complicate things, people like to analyze what the piledriver package/core temp is really reporting. Because of the higher socket temps it's assumed that the core temp doesn't really refer to core temp but rather the SURFACE temp of the cpu heat spreader.
 
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FX Lover´s, i need your help.

People keep talking crap about FX idle/load temps saying you must add the ambient temp to them

Is this real?

Idle temp, i can agree...but load?no way...

One more Intel biased argument...thumb.gif

well FX idle temps are bulloks

ambient effect load temps but in the same way they affect intel so ya...
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4ghz is stage 0-1
4.1ghz - 4.3ghz stage 1-2
4.4 - 4.6ghz stage 3
4.7 - 5ghz stage 4
5ghz and more stage X
with fx-8350 and fx-8370 is 4ghz stage 0 because its stock clock but fx-8320 its stage 1
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FX Lover´s, i need your help.

People keep talking crap about FX idle/load temps saying you must add the ambient temp to them

Is this real?

Idle temp, i can agree...but load?no way...

One more Intel biased argument...thumb.gif

idle temps are BS on these chips..

as for load temps, not too sure.. they dont have a temp sensor.. the temp is based on tdp or something..

 
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1.65 on the cpu nb?

that's crazy, maybe under ln2 that would be ok. That is how you fry chips. I wouldn't go past 1.55 on the cpu nb. Even that is considered really high.
You don't RMA a cpu that you overclocked. You voided the warranty and abused it. Man up and buy another one.
I've seen people who RMA their 5690X because they can't get past 4.2 GHZ.

Plus, I'm not going to fry my CPU any time sooner, I'm not crazy enough to drop 1.55 V on my NB. Even though I may apply for 2800 MHZ at 1.4 V... Who knows.
 
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4ghz is stage 0-1
4.1ghz - 4.3ghz stage 1-2
4.4 - 4.6ghz stage 3
4.7 - 5ghz stage 4
5ghz and more stage X
with fx-8350 and fx-8370 is 4ghz stage 0 because its stock clock but fx-8320 its stage 1

almost all 8 core fx can hit 4.0ghz on stock voltage. heck most can go a bit further.
 
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I've seen people who RMA their 5690X because they can't get past 4.2 GHZ.

Plus, I'm not going to fry my CPU any time sooner, I'm not crazy enough to drop 1.55 V on my NB. Even though I may apply for 2800 MHZ at 1.4 V... Who knows.

If I seen that I would call a few people, and get their names black listed at those RMA departments.... Its not right. I suggest you drop it.
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