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Yeah troll skull smash please
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Yeah troll skull smash please

I just described the epitome of a cpu bottlenecked scenario, rivaling medium sc2 fights, in a game that is strictly single threaded like most online games I encounter. I'm not sure how you would act in the situation, but I have a hard time seeing you get a result that would satisfy me without switching to intel.

I never claimed this to be representative to anyone but me and people who want to enjoy a 144hz monitor for what it's worth, while playing mostly online games. Simply because 1 or 2 people were painting a different picture.

Like I'm not here to ruin your day, I'm sorry if it comes off like that. I'll be taking my leave from this for today and wish you the best of times!
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I just described the epitome of a cpu bottlenecked scenario, rivaling medium sc2 fights, in a game that is strictly single threaded like most online games I encounter. I'm not sure how you would act in the situation, but I have a hard time seeing you get a result that would satisfy me without switching to intel.

I never claimed this to be representative to anyone but me and people who want to enjoy a 144hz monitor for what it's worth, while playing mostly online games. Simply because 1 or 2 people were painting a different picture.

Like I'm not here to ruin your day, I'm sorry if it comes off like that. I'll be taking my leave from this for today and wish you the best of times!

At the moment, you will need a Graphics Card with Pixel Shader 3.0 or higher, and a CPU that supports SSE2.

http://www.pathofexile.com/faq#q14 Your example game is a poor game to even suggest switching intel from AMD.. such an outdated way of coding

pls sirs my interwebx is slowly cause I use x87 too
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It's slightly better. You guys think it's a good well rounded system?


If you can drop the sub timings then yes otherwise you are in a good spot
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Yeah troll skull smash please
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Yeah troll skull smash please

I just described the epitome of a cpu bottlenecked scenario, rivaling medium sc2 fights, in a game that is strictly single threaded like most online games I encounter. I'm not sure how you would act in the situation, but I have a hard time seeing you get a result that would satisfy me without switching to intel.

I never claimed this to be representative to anyone but me and people who want to enjoy a 144hz monitor for what it's worth, while playing mostly online games. Simply because 1 or 2 people were painting a different picture.

Like I'm not here to ruin your day, I'm sorry if it comes off like that. I'll be taking my leave from this for today and wish you the best of times!

I play at 1440p 120hz......i guess the fps i'm seeing isn't real?

look, switching to a 4930k over an FX 8 core is an upgrade but i'm with Fears on this one, GPU would have been a better upgrade and that advice is coming from personal experience wink.gif
 
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At the moment, you will need a Graphics Card with Pixel Shader 3.0 or higher, and a CPU that supports SSE2.

http://www.pathofexile.com/faq#q14 Your example game is a poor game to even suggest switching intel from AMD.. such an outdated way of coding

pls sirs my interwebx is slowly cause I use x87 too

Ok I lied I'm still here.

Here's a list of generic online games people might play: LoL, PSO2, Tera, Aura Kingdom, random Steam onlinegames like Dead Island Moba (or maybe this game made in Java called Spiral Knights c;), Warframe. (edit: all blizzard, though not a problem for hearthstone. I like that game.)
These are all single threaded for gameplay. (not 100% sure on PSO2, didn't test much and cpu usage reporting is buggy on that) They all have issues getting over 80fps with high enemy numbers. They aren't the most representative for gaming as a whole, but tell me a good online game to play that's not about holding a gun, that's not single threaded.

I'm always looking for a good innovative game to play where great attention was spent on performance! Sadly online gaming is mostly about outdated coding and and the like, it seems.

edit: And yes I'd definitely want to see every new online game to be made in mantle, and not everyone plays the games I play on more than a 60hz monitor, so I'm really not trying to argue with you!
Edited by Tivan - 12/30/14 at 12:18pm
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Ok I lied I'm still here.

Here's a list of generic online games people might play: LoL, PSO2, Tera, Aura Kingdom, random Steam onlinegames like Dead Island Moba (or maybe this game made in Java called Spiral Knights c;), Warframe. (edit: all blizzard, though not a problem for hearthstone. I like that game.)
These are all single threaded for gameplay. (not 100% sure on PSO2, didn't test much and cpu usage reporting is buggy on that) They all have issues getting over 80fps with high enemy numbers. They aren't the most representative for gaming as a whole, but tell me a good online game to play that's not about holding a gun, that's not single threaded.

I'm always looking for a good innovative game to play where great attention was spent on performance! Sadly online gaming is mostly about outdated coding and and the like, it seems.

edit: And yes I'd definitely want to see every new online game to be made in mantle, and not everyone plays the games I play on more than a 60hz monitor, so I'm really not trying to argue with you!

You are missing the point and wanting to keep arguing to prove you being right.. which it isn't going to happen, YES for you ONLY since thats all you play wooo ... but the money would still have been better spent on a GPU over what you did.. which was my point

Also the games there are several I don't have many I can say off hand just cause I don't play many online games unless triple A titles however it was a point that I made was that of course if you are looking at special scenarios like the one that you are talking about then yes however your insition suggestion to a user that didn't say anything about you 1 off scenario well.. that made your information false and not held with any fact
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You are missing the point and wanting to keep arguing to prove you being right.. which it isn't going to happen, YES for you ONLY since thats all you play wooo ... but the money would still have been better spent on a GPU over what you did.. which was my point

Also the games there are several I don't have many I can say off hand just cause I don't play many online games unless triple A titles however it was a point that I made was that of course if you are looking at special scenarios like the one that you are talking about then yes however your insition suggestion to a user that didn't say anything about you 1 off scenario well.. that made your information false and not held with any fact

I'd like to continue representing the 144hz monitor, online game playing crowd c: But yeah agreed. Aside from the info being false part, as I pointed out the circumstances from the start. (I think?)
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I'd like to continue representing the 144hz monitor, online game playing crowd c: But yeah agreed. Aside from the info being false part, as I pointed out the circumstances from the start. (I think?)

Nope
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If you have a high refresh monitor it's worth it. If not then it depends on games you play. Generally, if you're unhappy with your minimum FPS for extended periods of time, and your GPU is nowhere near 100% load, then you'd see improvements on intel.

and 144hz means nothing about the fact youd see a greater improvement with a better GPU than a cpu

Only reason why you saw a boost was about 5% faster IPC for single threaded and then the other cores took on some of the GPU load,
If you spent same amount on a GPU then you would have had at least a 30% improvement and about a 20% improvement over what you have now which would thus allow you to play said games on higher settings (looking better) and still hold over 100FPS
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Nope
and 144hz means nothing about the fact youd see a greater improvement with a better GPU than a cpu

Only reason why you saw a boost was about 5% faster IPC for single threaded and then the other cores took on some of the GPU load,
If you spent same amount on a GPU then you would have had at least a 30% improvement and about a 20% improvement over what you have now which would thus allow you to play said games on higher settings (looking better) and still hold over 100FPS

You mean 60% faster single threaded IPC and 60% more fps c: ( this thread is a solid reference if you ask me www.overclock.net/t/1493307/relative-access-to-execution-throughput-comparison-chart )
I saw gains of that magnitude, with the cpu upgrade. GPU upgrade did nothing of that sort, on the other hand.

Edit: I don't see why you'd say that a better GPU will provide more FPS in a cpu bottlenecked scenario where 1 core is pegged out at 100%. (which was clearly the case for me, because vram bottlenecks are more drastic.) (unless going nvidia for the lower overhead drivers)
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I play at 1440p 120hz......i guess the fps i'm seeing isn't real?

look, switching to a 4930k over an FX 8 core is an upgrade but i'm with Fears on this one, GPU would have been a better upgrade and that advice is coming from personal experience wink.gif

I'm just sat here shaking my head, he obviously came here from LTT forum where they all say an i5 is a better purchase over the 8350 and above... I'm yet to have a game become unplayable and that even includes single threaded games such as the binding of Isaac which is a java game and so on. I find it really disturbing intel boi's need to prove a point when they purchase an intel chip, I HAZ UNTIL I R HAVE COMPENSATE FUR SUMTING!

The placebo effect is real. Plus apparently even the new haswell 2011-3's throttle 2x 970's so looks like everyone is wrong... biggrin.gif
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I guess "60 % improvement across the board" he meant in the most poorly coded games on the planet at medum settings and low resolutions...... damn trolls...lol
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