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Well it appears my chip is a dud redface.gif

I have been stuck
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Pssst..... it's your cooler that's holding you back smile.gif

I might be inclined to agree, but why would it make a difference which 4 cores I used for 4.8, if heat was the only limiting factor?

Plus it doesn't even have time to heat up, the freeze happens like 2 seconds after starting prime.
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Well it appears my chip is a dud redface.gif

I have been stuck
I might be inclined to agree, but why would it make a difference which 4 cores I used for 4.8, if heat was the only limiting factor?


heat = resistance, some cores may be "leakier" or need more voltage.. either way.. = more heat
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heat = resistance, some cores may be "leakier" or need more voltage.. either way.. = more heat

So if I simulate by adding more voltage to 4.5 I should still insta-freeze?
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So if I simulate by adding more voltage to 4.5 I should still insta-freeze?

depending.... as it can be through one pipe but im not an electrical engineer, I just know the concepts
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depending.... as it can be through one pipe but im not an electrical engineer, I just know the concepts

I have run prime at 4.6 at 66C It is just hard to believe I am going past 66C in 2 seconds. Thats what is confusing me.
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I have run prime at 4.6 at 66C It is just hard to believe I am going past 66C in 2 seconds. Thats what is confusing me.

doesn't surprise me one bit, more cores = faster heat spikes

I ran into that issue until I got a faster pump... its because the heat can't be pulled away fast enough.. Air cooling is much slower at pulling the heat away too so yes it can happen
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doesn't surprise me one bit, more cores = faster heat spikes

I ran into that issue until I got a faster pump... its because the heat can't be pulled away fast enough.. Air cooling is much slower at pulling the heat away too so yes it can happen

Damn.. hehe

I know one thing, a loop as a big investment just find out if a chip is a dud or not. haha And further more a large investment for 2-3 hundred more MHz. rolleyes.gif

I could get a second r9 290 for the price of a loop. redface.gif

At 1.38v it took more than an hour of prime to reach 65C so would it still be feasible to think 1.44v would hit 66C or more in 2 seconds? Just bonkers..
Edited by pshootr - 1/9/15 at 7:34pm
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Hey F3ERS 2 ASH3S, how long have you been running 1.7v? I thought I was acting brave at 1.65v lol. Wasn't sure if 1.65 would cause some damage or not. This chip I have actually overwhelmed my RS 360 when I ran 1.7v once. I think I got a hottie. You have a later batch, right?
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Well it appears my chip is a dud redface.gif

I have been stuck
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Pssst..... it's your cooler that's holding you back smile.gif

I might be inclined to agree, but why would it make a difference which 4 cores I used for 4.8, if heat was the only limiting factor?

Plus it doesn't even have time to heat up, the freeze happens like 2 seconds after starting prime.

I'm of the belief that the heat comes on faster than monitoring programs can even report it with these chips... almost instantly and air cooling is less able to deal with this than liquid cooling.

It's been my experience that a 10 C drop in temps = 100 to 200 stable mhz at load , mostly dealing with frequencies above 4.7 Ghz. .
But it's also possible that you have problems elsewhere, power delivery, memory etc..

I'd run OCCT at 4.4 or so for about 10 minutes, then check the graphs it creates to see if anything is screwy with the power deliver or you have temp spikes.
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Damn......hehe.

You could buy 3 cpus for the cost of a custom water cooling rig.
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