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What is your actual voltage during load though including temps? Your LLC is set to ultra so it has to be jumping by a good margin(more so with out knowing what board and psu you are using). And saying and showing 10 hours of coding are two different things.
Edited by pwnzilla61 - 1/13/15 at 3:41am
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What is your actual voltage during load though including temps? Your LLC is set to ultra so it has to be jumping by a good margin. And saying and showing 10 hours of coding are two different things.

1,416-1,420 if i recall correctly.

But i will do test on very high and post results ofc. with volts,temps etc...

Rock stable.biggrin.gif

But i think its safe to say that no 8350/8320 will not pass high IBT-AVX on that vcore.

FX8370 is another beast.
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1,416-1,420 if i recall correctly.

But i will do test on very high and post results ofc. with volts,temps etc...

Rock stable.biggrin.gif

But i think its safe to say that no 8350/8320 will not pass high IBT-AVX on that vcore.

FX8370 is another beast.
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1,416-1,420 if i recall correctly.

But i will do test on very high and post results ofc. with volts,temps etc...

Rock stable.biggrin.gif

But i think its safe to say that no 8350/8320 will not pass high IBT-AVX on that vcore.

FX8370 is another beast.

Just do OCCT for while, It'll give us full details with out being overbearing. It'll give me a good idea of the overall spec of what the chip can do, all in one program.
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I respect your point.

I link that because that guy(Stilt) is not some unknown OCer.
He is well known in world of OC and his expertise going way beyond simple OC.

I agree on you.
And I don't want to argue anymore.

But the point remains:
You reported that the max temp is actually way lower. But you were talking about another temp, one that most of us don't use as a guideline.
Doing that will only cause confusion amongst inexperienced users here. That only makes things worse. smile.gif

Give more info on how to actually monitor tCase, that would help.
    
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Ok so the question is temps, what should I be looking at, I've used core temps as my guide.
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stock temps

Taking AMD Overrive as my guide and its 71 degrees cel. Its always worked for me so whats new.
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75 degrees celsius is way too much for 125w FX.
Electron migration and degradation of chip cannot be avoided.

61 degrees celsius is max tcase temp. for 125w
71 degrees celsius is max tcase temp. for 95w

hahaha no..

show me a degraded chip, that isn't in the hands of a horrible overclocked. These chips are incredibly hard to kill.

temp limit is 72^ for ALL Piledriver chips. Download AMD overdrive and check your thermal margins for your self.

stop spouting misinformation.
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Regarding temperature,everything above 50 degrees celsius is unstable territory for FX.

It's slightly better with 95w E variants.

BS, utter BS.. these chips don't get issues until 70+ degrees, look at your board if you having issue before then...
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Even though the FXs are powerful beasts, I wouldn't spend anything fkr higher clocks, if you are already cool with an h80 you should stock with it

eh... your not even stable how can you say this?
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hahaha no..

show me a degraded chip, that isn't in the hands of a horrible overclocked. These chips are incredibly hard to kill.

temp limit is 72^ for ALL Piledriver chips. Download AMD overdrive and check your thermal margins for your self.
Yep,for tctl is 71 and i was refering on tCase.

Thats why misunderstanding.wink.gif

And in that post which you quote clearly is written tCase not tctl.
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Or you think the guys in AMD are also wrong:

Ticket regarding my question about FX8150

Dear Customer,

Your service request : SR #{ticketno:[8200609443]} has been reviewed and updated.

Response and Service Request History:

I understand that you have questions regarding specification. If this is incorrect, please let me know as the information provided may change.

The 61℃ is the max Tcase, it is the maximum case temperature specification.

The 70℃ is max Tctl, it is a non-physical temperature on an arbitrary scale that should be used for system thermal management policies.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reply to this e-mail directly and I will try to provide any additional information that you may require. Thank you for contacting AMD!

In order to update this service request, please respond, leaving the service request reference intact.

Best regards,

AMD Global Customer Care


Translated for FX chips and tCase(Stilt):

Officially the maximum tCase temperature for the various FX models is specified to:

Infra A - FR (125W TDP) - 61.1 degree C
Infra B - WM (95W TDP) - 70.5 degree C
Infra C - OL (65W TDP) - 70.3 degree C
Infra D - HO (45W TDP) - 69.1 degree C
Infra E - SJ (25W TDP) - 70.0 degree C
Infra F - FH (220W TDP) - 57.0 degree C



For example,both FX8370(125w) and 8320 (95w) have same tctl of 71 degrees celsius,but 8320E have higher margin on tCase temp.(71 vs. 61 on 8370)
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hahaha no..

show me a degraded chip, that isn't in the hands of a horrible overclocked. These chips are incredibly hard to kill.

temp limit is 72^ for ALL Piledriver chips. Download AMD overdrive and check your thermal margins for your self.
Yep,for tctl is 71 and i was refering on tCase.

Thats why misunderstanding.wink.gif

And in that post which you quote clearly is written tCase not tctl.

still incorrect. its been common knowledge in this thread that the Tcase as you say or Socket as we say.. can handle higher temps then your cpu readout. on average about 10^

we are talking about piledriver.. not bulldozer.
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Ok so the question is temps, what should I be looking at, I've used core temps as my guide.
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stock temps

Taking AMD Overrive as my guide and its 71 degrees cel. Its always worked for me so whats new.

I don't use AOD. I'm alergic to that.
But by looking at it. The margin is the room you have left for the max adviced temp right? Then the max adviced CORE temp would be indeed 71c
That is exactly in line with my info. 70c max on cores(package) and 80c on the cpu(socket).

Stick to your current game. No need to change a winning team.


That said, I just have to ask.
Why do you use AOD? tongue.gif
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hahaha no..

show me a degraded chip, that isn't in the hands of a horrible overclocked. These chips are incredibly hard to kill.

temp limit is 72^ for ALL Piledriver chips. Download AMD overdrive and check your thermal margins for your self.

stop spouting misinformation.
BS, utter BS.. these chips don't get issues until 70+ degrees, look at your board if you having issue before then...
eh... your not even stable how can you say this?

Haha, flail. thumb.gif

I was thinking, when would he join in on the discussion.

Like I said, one can bring different temps in the game but that is not the ones we use as guidance.
70c core, 80c socket.
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