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kuz its a Budget board..

not ment to take the same kind of abuse a saberkitty or chvfz

play with a ticking time bomb, its bound to explode at some point.

That is absolutely right, but it's the same quality of an M5A99FX/ M5A99X board, and I'm pretty sure (am I?) that they can handle 5 GHZ.

Anyway I will stop worrying about it soon, I'm going to trade my FX chip with a newer one soon, hoping that the newer chip will run with less than 1.56 V.
 
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kuz its a Budget board..

not ment to take the same kind of abuse a saberkitty or chvfz

play with a ticking time bomb, its bound to explode at some point.

That is absolutely right, but it's the same quality of an M5A99FX/ M5A99X board, and I'm pretty sure (am I?) that they can handle 5 GHZ.

Anyway I will stop worrying about it soon, I'm going to trade my FX chip with a newer one soon, hoping that the newer chip will run with less than 1.56 V.

you are mistaken..

4+2 does not equal 6+2+2

and 5ghz is a mighty large ask from those boards.
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you are mistaken..

4+2 does not equal 6+2+2

and 5ghz is a mighty large ask from those boards.

UHH, I think you are being mistaken here.

A M5A97 EVO R2.0 is a 6+2+2 board as well.

So yeah. Still confident in ASUS. I don't do heavy work (other than rendering using the CPU // compiling applications)
 
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kuz its a Budget board..

not ment to take the same kind of abuse a saberkitty or chvfz

play with a ticking time bomb, its bound to explode at some point.

That is absolutely right, but it's the same quality of an M5A99FX/ M5A99X board, and I'm pretty sure (am I?) that they can handle 5 GHZ.

Anyway I will stop worrying about it soon, I'm going to trade my FX chip with a newer one soon, hoping that the newer chip will run with less than 1.56 V.

Yes and there's a reason I don't run anything higher than my 6350 in MY M5A99FX Pro. I also only run it at 4.6.
My opinion is these bords are good for an average "stable" OC in the 4.5 range. After that you're pushing your luck..
I would also like to add that although the Newer chips tend to clock high with lower volts they're also harder on the VRM. I have had many chips in my Sabo and this 8320 is the hardest on it out of all of them.
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Yes and there's a reason I don't run anything higher than my 6350 in MY M5A99FX Pro. I also only run it at 4.6.
My opinion is these bords are good for an average "stable" OC in the 4.5 range. After that you're pushing your luck..
I would also like to add that although the Newer chips tend to clock high with lower volts they're also harder on the VRM. I have had many chips in my Sabo and this 8320 is the hardest on it out of all of them.

Ok, now I need an explanation for this, if you can explain it, please

I thought using logic + some electronics knowledge that MORE VCore = Higher VRM stress = Higher socket temps.

How can a lower VCore put even more stress?
 
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you are mistaken..

4+2 does not equal 6+2+2

and 5ghz is a mighty large ask from those boards.

UHH, I think you are being mistaken here.

A M5A97 EVO R2.0 is a 6+2+2 board as well.

So yeah. Still confident in ASUS. I don't do heavy work (other than rendering using the CPU // compiling applications)

didn't know which 97 board you had.

you don't have a sig rig wink.gif
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Yes and there's a reason I don't run anything higher than my 6350 in MY M5A99FX Pro. I also only run it at 4.6.
My opinion is these bords are good for an average "stable" OC in the 4.5 range. After that you're pushing your luck..
I would also like to add that although the Newer chips tend to clock high with lower volts they're also harder on the VRM. I have had many chips in my Sabo and this 8320 is the hardest on it out of all of them.

Ok, now I need an explanation for this, if you can explain it, please

I thought using logic + some electronics knowledge that MORE VCore = Higher VRM stress = Higher socket temps.

How can a lower VCore put even more stress?

its quite a bit more complicated then that.

First, the wattage will stay the same. so if the wattage of the new chips stays the same, yet run at lower voltages.. then by that observation they are using a higher Ampere rating.

with electricity Amperes Kills WAY WAY faster then Volts.

this amped up amperage effect everything from the way to the chip. so your VRMs are taking quite the brunt from this.

the way that VRMS works is alternating per phase the power does down.. your digi circuit is switching draw between your vrms and the more VRMs there are they longer they get to cool down before being used again..

in addition to the raw amount of VRMS the quality of the vrms plays a VERY VERY big part the lower the tolerance on the VRMs and the tighter the tolerance on the VRMs the better the VRM will perform and dissipate heat

only really clear cut way to reduce these things is reduce your clocks and your voltage draw until you get intimately familiar with your board and is qwerks
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That is absolutely right, but it's the same quality of an M5A99FX/ M5A99X board, and I'm pretty sure (am I?) that they can handle 5 GHZ.

Anyway I will stop worrying about it soon, I'm going to trade my FX chip with a newer one soon, hoping that the newer chip will run with less than 1.56 V.

i had a m5a99fx board and i couldnt hit 5ghz safely even with watercooling

the board just throttled, its the reason i upgraded to a saberkitty
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Low leakage CPUs waste less voltage. It's easier to pump the same amount of water out of a pipe with more holes is the best analogy I can come up with. Since a pipe with less holes will build more pressure. If the same force is applied.
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Low leakage CPUs waste less voltage. It's easier to pump the same amount of water out of a pipe with more holes is the best analogy I can come up with. Since a pipe with less holes will build more pressure. If the same force is applied.

Seems legit. So a lower leakage chip will stress more the VRMs than an higher leakage one? Those are useful information.

As for the missing rig, I guess I will upload my rig onto my account.
 
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Just for example, my 9370 on the same setup at 4.8 needed 1.476v this is using a TT 2.0 Pro AIO. The CPU socket barely hit 58c . With the 8320 (low leaker) at 4.8 and 1.38v the socket was topping 74c. Everything was the same except the CPUs and required voltages. I also cut the test short because of the temps.
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