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I don't think the cpu itself has that protection, I've benched the 8370E I have at 1.6 volts+ and 5.5ghz + without shutdown on my GD-80 rig. However, as always, I have as much right to be wrong as anyone wink.gif

I am more confident that its the core temp shutdown than anything else.. TBH.. why do you think you haven't heard of anyone frying the CPU due to volts.. Its not the volts that kill these chips its the heat..

That also explains the random shutdowns people have referred to as they stress.. we always callled it the thermal limit based on their cooling, and that precisely is what it is.
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she won't boot @ 5.37 frown.gif

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/5521883

yup think i've topped out for now.

5.22
1255/1929

that's one heck of a score dude, can you get higher on the GPU? What were your settings?

My MSi 970 tops out at 14K graphics score and my highest physics was about the same as yours as i come correct.
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My opinion is that the shutdown due to excessive temperature regulates the motherboard, to me the system is shut down when the CPU reaches 90°C, and I think that's what CoreTemp shows as TJ.max


ax

Fire strike R9 290 1290/1600 with FC-EK R9 290X , CPU FX8320 @5.1ghz water



And 3dm11 1300/1600 FX8320 @5.1gb
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9265753 score 14200 graphics 19191
Edited by mirzet1976 - 1/14/15 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by FlailScHLAMP View Post

she won't boot @ 5.37 frown.gif

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/5521883

yup think i've topped out for now.

5.22
1255/1929

that's one heck of a score dude, can you get higher on the GPU? What were your settings?

My MSi 970 tops out at 14K graphics score and my highest physics was about the same as yours as i come correct.

I've topped out with my current cooling. http://www.arctic.ac/worldwide_en/accelero-hybrid-7970.html that is the same thing as i am using.

when i hard mod the card, i can get more voltage once i get a block on the thing. I don't want to go any farther as i don't have the cooling to support it.
gpu core isn't the issue, VRMs and vram are the heat limited parts

1300/2000 doesn't seem too out of range once finished. one heck of a card for a reference factory overclocked 780 ti.. especially a Zotac
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It's important to consider that some 8350's have a vid of 1.28 volts while others are nearly 1.4 and you open the can of worms labeled "stable"....... which everyone has to define for themselves it seems smile.gif

You're right. The 8350 is a mixed bag. As far as stable I guess it's different also. Stable for gaming, stable for xx program. My definition of stable is usually ~12 hour in prime and Aida.
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Now that's the bencher coming out in ya Flail thumb.gif

she won't boot @ 5.37 frown.gif

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/5521883

yup think i've topped out for now.

5.22
1255/1929

Still a might better than 10K, as for the boot, that's where software comes in handy to get you that last little bit. As much as people harp about AIsuite. I never would have gotten the scores/clocks I have without it.

What do you think Flail, this looks like fun and not too far away http://www.overclock.net/t/1535960/hwbot-world-tour-kicks-off-first-stop-north-america-lan-ets-in-montreal-canada-march-6-8/20#post_23410766
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Megaman,

i already admitted i was little bit hard headed in temp case earlier. I tend to believe Stilt because of his vast knowledge and past success.
Maybe he is wrong. Maybe not,idk.
Also,AMD mail is valid. That mail is regarding my old FX8150 about temp. which can be applied to all FX I think.



But,what is wrong with that OC?
RAM is 1600 and it's very old I know.
HT and NB are at 2600 both.
1,33v for 4,7ghz I consider very good and almost unachievable with "old" visheras.
If you think something is out of order with that OC please tell.
bold
1 you have yet to show proof that email exists beyond " trust me i know" which i dont

2 you think. you dont know but you think,

3 a different processor you "claim" it is about
underline
nothing, i stated it was nothing special



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old chip, why wouldn't it be worth it? 0.o



looks worth it to me.. don't even start with electricity costs. I iz Canadian, Land of Cheap(ish) power.

Oh no I wasn't eventually going to talk about power supply, more like chip degradation for an overclock that (in my opinion) is not worth it.

But hey, if it's an old (and not even gold) chip there's nothing to lose! Right?

Anyway guys, I'm here to say that a 120 MM fan attached to the VRM greatly improved the quality of my overclock on my M5A97 EVO R2.0 (deemed to be unusable at high clocks).

Not only that, but I also found my temps to be greatly improved now of about 15 °C during benchmarks (realbench V2, for example, never went over 66 °C (Both Socket and Package), where before it would reach up to 78 °C and cause my pc to freeze.

Not only that, but I also lowered the VCore to 1.568 V (which is even less stable for IBT, but hey! It doesn't BSOD, freeze or crash, in fact, the latest crash was about two weeks ago, when my RAM, NB, VCore and Clock were far too unstable to run Far Cry 4 (or anything else, for that matter)
for the love of.. please dont use the dword. if you can cool it you can clock it, which has been proven time and time again in this thread, when you have proof of it then come to me. shy of l2n i am the only one that has ever had a problem with it that i know of, and i did it on a SUICIDE run and my core was not the problem it was the IMC
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bold
1 you have yet to show proof that email exists beyond " trust me i know" which i dont

2 you think. you dont know but you think,

3 a different processor you "claim" it is about
underline
nothing, i stated it was nothing special
for the love of.. please dont use the dword. if you can cool it you can clock it, which has been proven time and time again in this thread, when you have proof of it then come to me. shy of l2n i am the only one that has ever had a problem with it that i know of, and i did it on a SUICIDE run and my core was not the problem it was the IMC
what did that Imc ever do to you? smile.gif I could see heat killing one but that's not degredation that's failure to properly cool....I remember burning up an Athlon that way... Actually fused the plastic when it gave up the ghost....
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I read this in Guru 3D's review of the 8370E.

"If, during this overclock, your system shuts down, that's a new protection from AMD. You've reached either the heat, TDP or OCP limit (this seems to happen once the CPU pulls more than 26.5A from the 12V CPU rails"

Is this a Vishera feature or new to the E line of processors?

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what were they using as a power supply? sounds to vague for the writer to actually know what he is talking about

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Originally Posted by F3ERS 2 ASH3S View Post

CoreTemp over 85c or socket depending on the board would do the same thing
*how I know: cause I have done many suicide runs on my chip up to and including 1.8V, I want to say that it is Coretemp at 85-86c that it shuts down..

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I don't think the cpu itself has that protection, I've benched the 8370E I have at 1.6 volts+ and 5.5ghz + without shutdown on my GD-80 rig. However, as always, I have as much right to be wrong as anyone wink.gif

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I am more confident that its the core temp shutdown than anything else.. TBH.. why do you think you haven't heard of anyone frying the CPU due to volts.. Its not the volts that kill these chips its the heat..

That also explains the random shutdowns people have referred to as they stress.. we always callled it the thermal limit based on their cooling, and that precisely is what it is.

^
These pretty much nailed everything.

I've had shutdowns on my old 750W PSU. Cheap Stuff.
I am now shooting for 80C on IBT AVX. Just with Spikes though. F3ERS is also shooting for a much higher Vcore than mine at 1.66ish. mad.gif
I will also get shutdowns when I feed my chip 1.7V Core biggrin.gif
But even 1.66 is hard for most to cool. tongue.gif

Though, it is the Voltage that produces the heat F3ERS tongue.gif I can dial in 1.625 Vcore with temps not exceeding 70 on IBT but when I do more than that, temp scaling is too abrupt. That might also be the culprit why I am getting shutdowns with Vcore of 1.7 (Bios). The temperature even at the BIOS may be exceeding what the thermal protection deems safe. tongue.gif
Edited by mus1mus - 1/14/15 at 10:25pm
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Alright I'm going for somethimg higher than 4.5 at stock vcore now. Currently at 4.7 w. 1.380v. Been only 10min on Prime95 small fft. I'm seeing 20 C thermal margin, CPU 60C and Package 50C (HWMonitor) with H100I (stock fans at 1900RPM). Is my CPU in safe thermal numbers?

Well 1.375(1.38) wasn't enough so I'm going to try 1.392 now. Ill post back when I find a stable vcore.

BTW thanks Chopper, I'm going to cool my VRMs the way you have it setup except with the three 50mm fans I have. Just need to get myself a dremel to cut the sheet metal (and use it for everything else I needed it for in the past)

Update
4.7GHz 1.392V (1.404V) 60-61C and 51/50C passed 2 hour mark. Now I'm going to sleep and check when I wake up.
Edited by xKrNMBoYx - 1/15/15 at 12:46am
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Kingston FuryX Black Intel 530 Seagate ST500LM021 Noctua NH-D15 
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Noctua NF-A15 Noctua NF-F12 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Samsung 42" Plasma 
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Razer Black Widow 2014 EVGA 750 GQ 80+ Gold NZXT H440 Razer Death Adder 2014 
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AMD Phenom II X6 1055T ECS A885GM-A2 EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC Corsair XMS3 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Adata 60GB SP Western Digital Blue 320GB Hitachi 750GB Corsair H60 
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Windows 8.1 64-Bit Razer Black Widow Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620W Antec Three Hundred 
Mouse
Razer Death Adder 3.5G 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Xeon E3-1275 V5 Asrock E3V5 Performance Gaming/OC EVGA Classified 980 Ti SC EVGA 750 Ti SC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Kingston FuryX Black Intel 530 Seagate ST500LM021 Noctua NH-D15 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Noctua NF-A15 Noctua NF-F12 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Samsung 42" Plasma 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Black Widow 2014 EVGA 750 GQ 80+ Gold NZXT H440 Razer Death Adder 2014 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T ECS A885GM-A2 EVGA GTX 750 Ti SC Corsair XMS3 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Adata 60GB SP Western Digital Blue 320GB Hitachi 750GB Corsair H60 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Windows 8.1 64-Bit Razer Black Widow Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620W Antec Three Hundred 
Mouse
Razer Death Adder 3.5G 
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