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so what does your degradation theory say for the 9590

their Default Vid is quite high...

wonder why AMD would release such a chip....rolleyes.gif

they must know a little more about this topic then you do.. oh wait they do...

not many actually get into a voltage and heat range that will actually damage this Uarch.


you think everyone has super high voltage because you have a new super low leak chip.. nothing special. not the first to tout these numbers.
These chips can handle the voltage because the Uarch can handle the voltage so can the Node..

It is as simple as that.

(not saying degradation and electronic mitigation are not a thing, you are fear mongering about it, where there is absolutely no need. )

How much is vid on 9590? Around 1,45?
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Originally Posted by FlailScHLAMP View Post

so what does your degradation theory say for the 9590

their Default Vid is quite high...

wonder why AMD would release such a chip....rolleyes.gif

they must know a little more about this topic then you do.. oh wait they do...

not many actually get into a voltage and heat range that will actually damage this Uarch.


you think everyone has super high voltage because you have a new super low leak chip.. nothing special. not the first to tout these numbers.
These chips can handle the voltage because the Uarch can handle the voltage so can the Node..

It is as simple as that.

(not saying degradation and electronic mitigation are not a thing, you are fear mongering about it, where there is absolutely no need. )

How much is vid on 9590? Around 1,45?

1.54-1.57 iirc

i'm sure that some of the guys that have them will correct me if i am wrong.
Edited by FlailScHLAMP - 1/15/15 at 8:12am
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Looks good but you should check your bus speeds. The HT is reporting at 2200 it should be 2600 and NB 2200 for stock setting.

Thanks. I manually set HT to 2200 because I thought HT wasn't suppose to be running higher than NB or that HT can't run faster than NB speeds. Tell me if I'm thinking of this in the wrong way. After I find my limit with the 8350 I will probably venture into NB OCing Not sure I need to touch the NB or HT unless it will improve my gaming performance as this is my main use of this PC.

Stock for the Vushera is 2600 HT 2200 NB, not like the older AMD chips.

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so what does your degradation theory say for the 9590

their Default Vid is quite high...

wonder why AMD would release such a chip....rolleyes.gif

they must know a little more about this topic then you do.. oh wait they do...

not many actually get into a voltage and heat range that will actually damage this Uarch.


you think everyone has super high voltage because you have a new super low leak chip.. nothing special. not the first to tout these numbers.
These chips can handle the voltage because the Uarch can handle the voltage so can the Node..

It is as simple as that.

(not saying degradation and electronic mitigation are not a thing, you are fear mongering about it, where there is absolutely no need. )

How much is vid on 9590? Around 1,45?

1.54-1.57 iirc

Right on the nose Flail, those are stock VID for the 9xxx series chips
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What a fail is that 9590.redface.gif
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What a fail is that 9590.redface.gif

Such a great addition you are to the thread rolleyes.gif

again you have a new super low leak chip... staaaahpp it!!!!!11!1!

9590's are cherry picked old 8350.... yes their are going to be bloody pigs..

their piggishness wasn't questioned at all. kuz we knew that what it takes to run them like that.

AMD releasing a chip very close to how WE in this thread overclock and over volt while offering the same warranty as the base models.

can we stop now?
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Such a great addition you are to the thread rolleyes.gif

again you have a new super low leak chip... staaaahpp it!!!!!11!1!

9590's are cherry picked old 8350.... yes their are going to be bloody pigs..

their piggishness wasn't questioned at all. kuz we knew that what it takes to run them like that.

AMD releasing a chip very close to how WE in this thread overclock and over volt while offering the same warranty as the base models.

can we stop now?

1,54 is still far from 1,6 or 1,7 and even one member point out 2 volts and then go back to normal use.rolleyes.gif

8370 have nothing to do with your attempts of laughing.wink.gif

So,1,54-1,57 is max what AMD pulls from Visheras regarding safety.

Is it safe to go up to 1,6 1,7 ,18 etc?
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What a fail is that 9590.redface.gif
how is that a fail don't they start at 4.5 and turbo to 5.0? I'm jealous of your chip but there are a few here who have run 1.6v daily for years with no degredation yet...I still have a pentium 2 and an Athlon that ran over volts for 5 to 7 years each and still run on same voltage they did on day one...I think with some chips degredation is an issue but worrying about it on this platform I think is kind of silly...I'm not saying it won't happen I'm just saying it probably won't happen any time soon and more than likely not until after you've moved on to a new platform
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how is that a fail don't they start at 4.5 and turbo to 5.0? I'm jealous of your chip but there are a few here who have run 1.6v daily for years with no degredation yet...I still have a pentium 2 and an Athlon that ran over volts for 5 to 7 years each and still run on same voltage they did on day one...I think with some chips degredation is an issue but worrying about it on this platform I think is kind of silly...I'm not saying it won't happen I'm just saying it probably won't happen any time soon and more than likely not until after you've moved on to a new platform

Your post contains key sentence bolded.

CPU on stock volts can go on decades.
Overvolted that is shrinked to years.

That is point i present.

3-4 years is nothing and in that span you will not degrade chip to point of no use.

But,many people just switch to new after few years.


Also,what AMD says about max volt. I suspect they dont suggest to go anywhere near 1,6.

I will again post this old old picture:


Edited by hawker-gb - 1/15/15 at 8:34am
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Stock for the Vushera is 2600 HT 2200 NB, not like the older AMD chips.

Yes I know that 2600 HT and 2200 NB is the norm/stock for Vishera. I guess some misinformation on HT not being able to run faster than NB got me confused. That and the fact I read on a few threads that the best performance came when the NB/HT was running at the same speed between 2400-2600. When I RMA my RAM that can run at the rated 2400MHz I may Try to get NB/RAM/HT to run at the same 2400MHz. I like it when things match together.
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3-4 years is nothing and in that span you will not degrade chip to point of no use.

But,many people just switch to new after few years.

While I don't know what you meant by this part, people are more likely to upgrade their CPU because the CPU is now not strong enough to power what they do in 3-4 years or looking for a better overclocker. Then there are the ones with CPUs that die for being from a slightly bad batch, not cooled properly, overvolting by a tremendous number on accident, or overvolting AND not cooling properly.

You apparently have one of the newer Vishera Chips that have been refined over the long time they have been using the same process. All the chips that have been selling since Sept 2014 are more likely leak less compared to the ones that started in 2012. FX 8310, FX 8320E, FX 8370E, FX 8370.
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