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Kind of a stupid question but reading through this thread trying to learn stuff... If the socket temps are a limiting factor, is there a way to cool it? Would it be possible to heatsink something (not us, but the manufacturer) or something like that? I'm fairly new to this so I'm not 100% sure where the socket heat is coming from... thumb.gif

I've got an 80mm Arctic Cooling F8 strapped to the backside of my socket with double sided tape, even with the case closed my socket temps dropped 10c just by scattering the heat smile.gif
 
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Originally Posted by Darrath View Post

Kind of a stupid question but reading through this thread trying to learn stuff... If the socket temps are a limiting factor, is there a way to cool it? Would it be possible to heatsink something (not us, but the manufacturer) or something like that? I'm fairly new to this so I'm not 100% sure where the socket heat is coming from... thumb.gif
ii see I forgot to answer your other question. The heat from the socket is coming from two places at once. 1. It is coming through the tracers in the motherboard that deliver power to the CPU. This is often why a VRM Fan helps the situation. Because by reducing temps of the VRM's you are reducing the amount of heat that gets transferred to the CPU socket from the tracers. 2. The other place the heat comes from is from the heat generated by the cores and the die of the CPU.
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And as for an update. It looks like I will be doing an RMA on the Micron set of Corsair Vengeance LP. My test just failed on 13runs of Very High IBT. And it's in the same two slots as the Sammy's which passed with flying colours. So therefore I rule out a defective DIMM slot.
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And as for an update. It looks like I will be doing an RMA on the Micron set of Corsair Vengeance LP. My test just failed on 13runs of Very High IBT. And it's in the same two slots as the Sammy's which passed with flying colours. So therefore I rule out a defective DIMM slot.

Glad to see progress. I on the other hand restarted my PC one too many times while trying to mess with my NB and I believe I have a corrupt Windows install now....mad.gif
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And as for an update. It looks like I will be doing an RMA on the Micron set of Corsair Vengeance LP. My test just failed on 13runs of Very High IBT. And it's in the same two slots as the Sammy's which passed with flying colours. So therefore I rule out a defective DIMM slot.

Glad to see progress. I on the other hand restarted my PC one too many times while trying to mess with my NB and I believe I have a corrupt Windows install now....mad.gif
That is why I have two copies of windows. I have 8.1 on my SSD as my primary Os. And I have windows 7 on one of my HDDs so I don't screw up my main OS.
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That is why I have two copies of windows. I have 8.1 on my SSD as my primary Os. And I have windows 7 on one of my HDDs so I don't screw up my main OS.

Yeah HDD/SSD is what I always lack especially when you part out the stuff for other computers. Good news is that the PC did boot backup but I think it took a system restore to do it. Not sure when the last time there was a restore check point so I'll have to see.
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ii see I forgot to answer your other question. The heat from the socket is coming from two places at once. 1. It is coming through the tracers in the motherboard that deliver power to the CPU. This is often why a VRM Fan helps the situation. Because by reducing temps of the VRM's you are reducing the amount of heat that gets transferred to the CPU socket from the tracers. 2. The other place the heat comes from is from the heat generated by the cores and the die of the CPU.

I see. I'm just thinking here... If motherboard manufactures were able to move a few (quite a few I assume) resistors and such, in theory they could put a hole in the middle of the socket, and CPUs would put pins only on the outside edges like in a few past sockets, could there be a second heat spreader on the back of the CPU to attach a low profile cooler? Keep in mind it would only be for overclocking so very special parts and a special case being needed. But that could greatly increase overclocking, no?

Again, just me thinking... One last question. I'm watching temps on my setup (the storm trooper setup in my sig) and trying to find out which temps are what. Using HWiNFO, I see 2 temps on the cpu, cpu 0 and cpu package 0, and on the motherboard there is cpu and motherboard. The cpu 0 and package seem to be the same all the time and are usually 15-25 degrees cooler than the cpu and motherboard ones. Are the cpu0 and package temps the core and the other two listed in the motherboard section the socket? Just seems weird, if that is the case it shows the socket temp 5-8 degrees warmer than room temp at idle....

Thanks! cheers.gif

You guys can disregard the my question, I figured it out... Was mixing up the core temp and socket temp. Core temp at full load only hits 33 at the highest, with HWiNFO showing a spike of 38 at the first second of the test. Socket levels off at 48. Much better temps this way! thumb.gif
Edited by Darrath - 1/18/15 at 1:39am
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Isn't that a fail? The negative numbers. The letters and symbols is a floating point error code.
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Isn't that a fail? The negative numbers. The letters and symbols is a floating point error code.
Yes negative numbers are a fail. But you are very close to being stable. Maybe one more notch in Vcore and your there.
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I see. I'm just thinking here... If motherboard manufactures were able to move a few (quite a few I assume) resistors and such, in theory they could put a hole in the middle of the socket, and CPUs would put pins only on the outside edges like in a few past sockets, could there be a second heat spreader on the back of the CPU to attach a low profile cooler? Keep in mind it would only be for overclocking so very special parts and a special case being needed. But that could greatly increase overclocking, no?

Again, just me thinking... One last question. I'm watching temps on my setup (the storm trooper setup in my sig) and trying to find out which temps are what. Using HWiNFO, I see 2 temps on the cpu, cpu 0 and cpu package 0, and on the motherboard there is cpu and motherboard. The cpu 0 and package seem to be the same all the time and are usually 15-25 degrees cooler than the cpu and motherboard ones. Are the cpu0 and package temps the core and the other two listed in the motherboard section the socket? Just seems weird, if that is the case it shows the socket temp 5-8 degrees warmer than room temp at idle....

Thanks! cheers.gif

You guys can disregard the my question, I figured it out... Was mixing up the core temp and socket temp. Core temp at full load only hits 33 at the highest, with HWiNFO showing a spike of 38 at the first second of the test. Socket levels off at 48. Much better temps this way! thumb.gif
idle temps are very hard to gauge as these cpu use an algorithm to calculate temperature instead of a true sensor as a general rule the temps should be taken with a grain of salt under 40c after that it's pretty close smile.gif
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