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first welcome

second i need bios screen shots insert a usb stick ( formatted in fat32 )

then press f12 on any pages of bios that you changed settings in

if you left llc (load line calibration ) on auto that is your first problem ato = extreme try high/ultrahigh

please let me know any questions !!

also 70 core temp is fine

Thanks for the prompt reply Mega! I'm just logging off for the night but I'll grab those screenshots for you tomorrow when I wake up.
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I've had my FX8350 for a few years now and I've never overclocked it til tonight..and for good reason!

I used to run an Asrock 970 Extreme 3 with stock cooler/fan for the longest time and I knew that was a horrific combination but since I've gotten a Hyper 212 Evo on there and upgraded my mobo to a Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 and have plans to get a Swiftech H220X or something comparable around tax time I figured now would be a good time to test a few things. I've read like 1500 pages of this thread so far but theres still a ton of info I've yet to lay eyes on..

I went ahead and disabled all of the power saving related features normally recommended to be off and set my CPU voltage to the stock VID of 1.375 with Turbo disabled and started with a 21.5 multiplier for a very light OC of 4.3GHz.

Here are my results after running AVX IBT @ Very High for 10 passes (Not much but its a start).



I know the Core temp shouldn't normally exceed 62c and the Socket is 72c according to ComputerRestore's guide and I'm kind of close to them as is. I know that the 212 Evo isn't gonna perform miracles but I was expecting my temperatures to be a little lower than this. Could my TIM application be poor or is this an appropriate temperature for 4.3GHz @ 1.375v with a single fan pushing through the 212 Evo? Using Gelid Supreme paste right now and I could re-apply if its definitely a TIM issue.

Might as well put some info about my ugly as sin case while I'm thinking about it. Using a HAF 912 with 2 120mm intakes on the front, 1 120mm on the rear exhausting and no fan on my side panel nor on my top
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Yep.
Thought the same as Mega.

My feeling says lower the LLC one tad. By looking at your peak voltage and (bios)set voltage.

A part from that, it depends on your ambient temp but 4.4-.45 is most likely going to be your max on the 212 and that is decent IMO.
The 212 (evo) has been discussed here over and over and it still keeps showing it's face from time to time.

That cooler should be banned from Vishera owners. tongue.gif
No, seriously. It's just too weak to cool the hot head 8-core.

Note that the adviced core temp has changed to 71c. You can clarify this by using Amd OverDrive.


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I've had my FX8350 for a few years now and I've never overclocked it til tonight..and for good reason!

I used to run an Asrock 970 Extreme 3 with stock cooler/fan for the longest time and I knew that was a horrific combination but since I've gotten a Hyper 212 Evo on there and upgraded my mobo to a Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 and have plans to get a Swiftech H220X or something comparable around tax time I figured now would be a good time to test a few things. I've read like 1500 pages of this thread so far but theres still a ton of info I've yet to lay eyes on..

I went ahead and disabled all of the power saving related features normally recommended to be off and set my CPU voltage to the stock VID of 1.375 with Turbo disabled and started with a 21.5 multiplier for a very light OC of 4.3GHz.

Here are my results after running AVX IBT @ Very High for 10 passes (Not much but its a start).



I know the Core temp shouldn't normally exceed 62c and the Socket is 72c according to ComputerRestore's guide and I'm kind of close to them as is. I know that the 212 Evo isn't gonna perform miracles but I was expecting my temperatures to be a little lower than this. Could my TIM application be poor or is this an appropriate temperature for 4.3GHz @ 1.375v with a single fan pushing through the 212 Evo? Using Gelid Supreme paste right now and I could re-apply if its definitely a TIM issue.

Might as well put some info about my ugly as sin case while I'm thinking about it. Using a HAF 912 with 2 120mm intakes on the front, 1 120mm on the rear exhausting and no fan on my side panel nor on my top



Welcome aboard. Like Mega and the others have said. YOur best bet with the Hyper212 will be 4.5GHz at most. 72C on the cores are the maximum continuous temps. Maximum socket temperature is motherboard dependant. But I think on the saberKitty it is 75C-78C socket before you will throttle. Once you get your 220x installed you might want to try and sort out that cable management a bit to help improve airflow. With a 220X I would say at LEAST 4.8GHz. You only have 240mm of rad with that. So I think the most you will achieve is 5 if you are lucky. And yeah. Have fun. T'is a great chip. thumb.gif
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I don't normally say this, but an FX isn't exactly the best option for most of these games, If you do alot of research about your GPU and don't really go too far into the high end with graphics cards. these games @ 1080 are quite cpu bound.

 

The Benchmarks still satisfy me. Besides I listed the games I intend to play that seemed the be heavier on the requirements, and at the end of the day playing high again is going to be refreshing but if I can get a decent 60fps 1080p experience I'll be quite happy (no more headaches hurray).

 

 

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There is nothing wrong with overclocking on the M5A99FX. You just need to have a lot of patience. It's a board that needs a lot of work. But it's a good board. Just not a 5GHz board. At best it's a 4.8/4.9 board that I have discovered. And it will take a lot of work to get her there.

 

 

So I guess the frustration might come from chasing the perfect values and not from a bad bios/uefi. The latter is actually my biggest worry, my current motherboard is painful in that way. But if it's about fine tunning, well, it might be tiresome but it'll just make it more rewarding laughingsmiley.gif And besides some money saved in there certainly helps towards other components.

 

 

Thanks for all the feedback.

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I don't normally say this, but an FX isn't exactly the best option for most of these games, If you do alot of research about your GPU and don't really go too far into the high end with graphics cards. these games @ 1080 are quite cpu bound.

The Benchmarks still satisfy me. Besides I listed the games I intend to play that seemed the be heavier on the requirements, and at the end of the day playing high again is going to be refreshing but if I can get a decent 60fps 1080p experience I'll be quite happy (no more headaches hurray).
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There is nothing wrong with overclocking on the M5A99FX. You just need to have a lot of patience. It's a board that needs a lot of work. But it's a good board. Just not a 5GHz board. At best it's a 4.8/4.9 board that I have discovered. And it will take a lot of work to get her there.


So I guess the frustration might come from chasing the perfect values and not from a bad bios/uefi. The latter is actually my biggest worry, my current motherboard is painful in that way. But if it's about fine tunning, well, it might be tiresome but it'll just make it more rewarding laughingsmiley.gif  And besides some money saved in there certainly helps towards other components.


Thanks for all the feedback.
If your primary rig is still the X38 powered rig, then the new UEFI BIOS on today's boards will be a big improvement to you. Yes my BIOS has been a bit painful. But not because it is overly difficult to use. I have had to flash a few times cause your BIOS can get borked by a bad OC. But not many people are willing to push their hardware as far as I am. And I pushed this motherboard to its utmost breaking point for my CPU. 4.9GHz with 1.55V or above is this boards thermal limit. Even with all the hacks and mods I have made to the cooling. And getting your CPU up to speed isn't really the problem. It's when you get down to the nitty gritty for RAM, CPU-NB and HTT overclock that things get difficult and tedious.
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first welcome

second i need bios screen shots insert a usb stick ( formatted in fat32 )

then press f12 on any pages of bios that you changed settings in

if you left llc (load line calibration ) on auto that is your first problem ato = extreme try high/ultrahigh

please let me know any questions !!

also 70 core temp is fine

Alright here are the screenshots from my BIOS as requested. I realize the 212 is far from an ideal cooling solution for the 8350 but at the time I had no intention of overclocking (hence the **** mobo and use of stock cooler heatsink/fan for so long)

As for cable management last time I swapped my Sabertooth in I did my best to either tuck away, hide, or tie together/bring it closer to the case's frame itself. The only real thing obstructing my air flow in there is the 2 PCI-E connectors leading to my GPU but I believe I'm limited by the cables themselves now (quite stiff with very little play and as such I can't see a better way to route them..The HAF 912 is not up to par with cases these days so I almost think I'd have to make modifications to manage my cables any better.










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I'll just give you a list of things I see in those screenshots:

- Put CPU/NB Frequency on 2200 MHz and HT Link speed on 2600 MHz. Those are the stock settings.
- Disable CPU spread spectrum
- Put CPU LLC on high/ultra high and CPU/NB LLC on high
- CPU and CPU/NB Current capability on 130%

There are other things you could tweak, but this is a good start and run some tests using these settings smile.gif
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Welp I made those recommended changes along with setting my AI Overclock Tuner set to Manual rather than DOCP (reset my ram timings manually so its back at 1866) and now my IBT fails at pass 2 and produces some weird result # I've never seen first hand.



Should I try running my ram at stock speeds in the mean time and test again or is that just IBT talk for "I need more voltage"? I assumed I could get away with 4300 on 1.375v but that doesn't look to be the case now. Maybe my chip was a bad draw in the silicon lottery..
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Welp I made those recommended changes along with setting my AI Overclock Tuner set to Manual rather than DOCP (reset my ram timings manually so its back at 1866) and now my IBT fails at pass 2 and produces some weird result # I've never seen first hand.



Should I try running my ram at stock speeds in the mean time and test again or is that just IBT talk for "I need more voltage"? I assumed I could get away with 4300 on 1.375v but that doesn't look to be the case now. Maybe my chip was a bad draw in the silicon lottery..
you always want to take note of min max and median vcore values and even double click vcore to get a graphing so you can see if you are getting droop or overshoot....this helps to let you tell if llc is doing what it should or if vcore maybe be to low due to vdroop and every board/chip can run differently
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Welp I made those recommended changes along with setting my AI Overclock Tuner set to Manual rather than DOCP (reset my ram timings manually so its back at 1866) and now my IBT fails at pass 2 and produces some weird result # I've never seen first hand.



Should I try running my ram at stock speeds in the mean time and test again or is that just IBT talk for "I need more voltage"? I assumed I could get away with 4300 on 1.375v but that doesn't look to be the case now. Maybe my chip was a bad draw in the silicon lottery..

You can see in your first screenshot of IBT at your previous settings your Vcore peaked at 1.404 V because of the LLC that was set to auto. You put in 1.375 V in your BIOS but your LLC bumped it up to 1.404 V. That's why it failed when you put LLC on high. High gives you a little Vdroop, but I prefer that over Vboost. High LLC also gives lower socket temps under load, but higher when idle.
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