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True... My intention was not to compete against others with a faster or higher score but just to complete the IBT run successfully... I've edited my post.

Yeah it just seemed like the wrong use of words. I knew you were just trying to show yur OC was stable.
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What will you be pairing it with for cooing, psu and motherboard?

It's cooled by a Noctua NHD14, mobo is Sabertooth 990fx. PSU Is 750w 80+ Bronze.

Unless you upgrade your cooling, I'd stay with the 8320, which should be able to hit 4.6 +. Does your psu have a single 12 volt rail?
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Unless you upgrade your cooling, I'd stay with the 8320, which should be able to hit 4.6 +. Does your psu have a single 12 volt rail?

Yep, single 12v rail. I can probably take this OC a bit higher (next time I am bored I will probably go for 4.4), but if the 8370E will use less electricity, is there any reason why it wouldn't be worth the upgrade? Once the rebate comes in, and if I sell the 8320, it would have cost me only about $20 to upgrade.
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Unless you upgrade your cooling, I'd stay with the 8320, which should be able to hit 4.6 +. Does your psu have a single 12 volt rail?

Yep, single 12v rail. I can probably take this OC a bit higher (next time I am bored I will probably go for 4.4), but if the 8370E will use less electricity, is there any reason why it wouldn't be worth the upgrade? Once the rebate comes in, and if I sell the 8320, it would have cost me only about $20 to upgrade.

Should be ok on the psu then unless it's a terrible brand/model etc.

It probably won't save you much on electricity, but it's a pretty reasonable upgrade if you can get decent money out of your old chip, but I really wouldn't expect more than a couple hundred mhz improvement on the 8320 without better cooling. Just my 2 cents.
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@pshootr yes the Fatality Pro is better than the Killer. It has a similar VRM design to the Extreme 9. However the Extreme9 is known to start struggling in the 4.8GHz region. As far as I am aware it's the only 990FX board wit good (on paper) power deliver design to blow and take a processor with it. There is a rule you want to remember. When it comes to phases. QUALITY. NOT QUANTITY. The AsRock 12+2 phase is weaker than Asus and Gigabyte 8 phase and on par with Asus 6 phase. AsRock 8 phase is about on par with strong 4 phase designs. That being said your cooling is you most likely limiting factor followed by your motherboard.

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Thats hard to decide.
I lean towards board first, then cooling.

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The first board I got was a Sabertooth. This is the second one and the reason I got this is because it was only a little more than the Sabertooth (20 USD) and came to about 150 USD. As it's second hand I didn't get the Soundblaster thing and the NIC but I don't care. To be honest I don't understand a lot of the functions of this board, there are so many for fine tweaking that I am too lazy to take the time to learn it all. The Sabertooth wasn't intended for me as my board still worked at that time, only when that finally died did I get this CHV.

I also recommend the Sabertooth as it's an excellent board and unless you can get the CHV super cheap like I did, or you intend to break records, it will serve you just as well.

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It could be the chip...

Or perhaps as others have already mentioned... Cooling? and or motherboard combo??

E-chips are binned for low voltages. Maybe you should consider getting a "standard" bin 8370?...

Then you could run and test the new chip on your current setup and just see how it goes??

If the new chip breaks through to 4.7/4.8 and possible even higher? Keep the new chip and sell off your old 8320E here in the OCN classifieds or perhaps on ebay?

It is possible that your particular 8320E might max out on heavy stress testing (Prime/IBT) at ~4.6 with "high-end" air cooling.

I had a launch release FX-8120 and launch release FX-8350 running on an original CHV... I later sold them off while running Intel but this past November (Black Friday/Cyber Monday) I purchased a new AMD combo... A CHVF-Z as well as both a standard 8370 and a low voltage 8370E for binning...

The 8370E was pretty nice... But my 8370 turned out to be a even stronger thumb.gif So I decided to keep and run the 8370 and then sold off the E variant chip.

My FX-8370 @4.8GHz DDR3-2040C8 Prime blend on an open air bench with custom water cooling:


After taking all of this, as well as help from many others, and some Google searches in to account, I believe my MB is struggling with this chip at 1.4v+. I found two threads where people had the same issue with the 1.4v wall, and they both had my MB. Due to this, and the fact that I want another MB anyways so I can have two rigs, I will likely be getting another MB before anything else.

Thanks for all the helpful responses everyone. +rep thumb.gif
Edited by pshootr - 1/27/15 at 7:46pm
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@pshootr yes the Fatality Pro is better than the Killer. It has a similar VRM design to the Extreme 9. However the Extreme9 is known to start struggling in the 4.8GHz region. As far as I am aware it's the only 990FX board wit good (on paper) power deliver design to blow and take a processor with it. There is a rule you want to remember. When it comes to phases. QUALITY. NOT QUANTITY. The AsRock 12+2 phase is weaker than Asus and Gigabyte 8 phase and on par with Asus 6 phase. AsRock 8 phase is about on par with strong 4 phase designs. That being said your cooling is you most likely limiting factor followed by your motherboard.

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Originally Posted by Chopper1591 View Post

Thats hard to decide.
I lean towards board first, then cooling.

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Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

The first board I got was a Sabertooth. This is the second one and the reason I got this is because it was only a little more than the Sabertooth (20 USD) and came to about 150 USD. As it's second hand I didn't get the Soundblaster thing and the NIC but I don't care. To be honest I don't understand a lot of the functions of this board, there are so many for fine tweaking that I am too lazy to take the time to learn it all. The Sabertooth wasn't intended for me as my board still worked at that time, only when that finally died did I get this CHV.

I also recommend the Sabertooth as it's an excellent board and unless you can get the CHV super cheap like I did, or you intend to break records, it will serve you just as well.

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Originally Posted by PolRoger View Post


It could be the chip...

Or perhaps as others have already mentioned... Cooling? and or motherboard combo??

E-chips are binned for low voltages. Maybe you should consider getting a "standard" bin 8370?...

Then you could run and test the new chip on your current setup and just see how it goes??

If the new chip breaks through to 4.7/4.8 and possible even higher? Keep the new chip and sell off your old 8320E here in the OCN classifieds or perhaps on ebay?

It is possible that your particular 8320E might max out on heavy stress testing (Prime/IBT) at ~4.6 with "high-end" air cooling.

I had a launch release FX-8120 and launch release FX-8350 running on an original CHV... I later sold them off while running Intel but this past November (Black Friday/Cyber Monday) I purchased a new AMD combo... A CHVF-Z as well as both a standard 8370 and a low voltage 8370E for binning...

The 8370E was pretty nice... But my 8370 turned out to be a even stronger thumb.gif So I decided to keep and run the 8370 and then sold off the E variant chip.

My FX-8370 @4.8GHz DDR3-2040C8 Prime blend on an open air bench with custom water cooling:


After taking all of this, as well as help from many others, and some Google searches in to account, I believe my MB is struggling with this chip at 1.4v+. I found two threads where people had the same issue with the 1.4v wall, and they both had my MB. Due to this, and the fact that I want another MB anyways so I can have two rigs, I will likely be getting another MB before anything else.

Thanks for all the helpful responses everyone. +rep thumb.gif

Something to ponder
http://hwbot.org/submission/2454958_d1nky_cinebench_r11.5_fx_8350_9.51_points
http://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/fatal1ty_990fx/
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Just when you think you have it all figured out lol. Then cssokinman comes along hehe biggrin.gif

I'll be darned man. Shesh, I don't know what to think now kookoo.gif

Edit:
Oh wait,, I know,, ITS THE HEAT!! doh.gif I couldn't resist a little humor biggrin.gif

But even If I till have this issue with new board, I am wanting a second board anyways so I can have 2 machines. So it would not be a total waste. Then at that point I could try another chip and or a loop I suppose.
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@pshootr You really to discipline your avatar. It keeps moving around...

Or is that just me... upsidedwnsmiley.gif
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@pshootr You really to discipline your avatar. It keeps moving around...

Or is that just me... upsidedwnsmiley.gif

Haha. Ya I couldn't resist that avatar. Such a simple yet amazing allusion. arrowheadsmiley.png
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Just when you think you have it all figured out lol. Then cssokinman comes along hehe biggrin.gif

I'll be darned man. Shesh, I don't know what to think now kookoo.gif

Edit:
Oh wait,, I know,, ITS THE HEAT!! doh.gif I couldn't resist a little humor biggrin.gif

But even If I till have this issue with new board, I am wanting a second board anyways so I can have 2 machines. So it would not be a total waste. Then at that point I could try another chip and or a loop I suppose.

hehe, at least you have a sense of humor about it.
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