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I think you did well, the low profile set would have gimped performance in my opinion.

In other news, I've lead a horse to water, will he take a drink???? tongue.gif

pshootr <---- takes a "gulp" and proudly wipes his chin.. drool.gif
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The racers have a saying. " Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?"

A year ago I actually started buying water cooling parts. Then added up the total cost starting with a new case, the time it would take, and that it was all for 200mgz. The parts are still sitting in their boxes over in the corner.

Perhaps cssorkinman will one day convince me the buy them from you.. doh.gif
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the stock heatsink fan works well for this but it can be loud...you could.put it inside the panel if you have room....I saw 10c reduction in my socket temps with.a fan realistically 5 to 15c is a possibility...fan on front of.vrms helps as well...but in my case backside fan did the most for socket temps

That thing is so loud you think you're on a jet fighter. No, I think I'll get a 12 cm silent fan, and mount it on the outside. It can be done to look pretty if you put a good grill for the fan.
 
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That thing is so loud you think you're on a jet fighter. No, I think I'll get a 12 cm silent fan, and mount it on the outside. It can be done to look pretty if you put a good grill for the fan.
yeah you could control it lower but I understand wanting quieter and same performance and I'm probably one of the few here who wants performance and aesthetics and noise are second to that end however I'm coming around to the aesthetics side though the more I upgrade and change it's becoming more of a consideration but price/performance matters to me above all still smile.gif perhaps this comes from being poor...or perhaps it's because I'm cheap (side effect of being either poor or fairly wealthy)
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yeah you could control it lower but I understand wanting quieter and same performance and I'm probably one of the few here who wants performance and aesthetics and noise are second to that end however I'm coming around to the aesthetics side though the more I upgrade and change it's becoming more of a consideration but price/performance matters to me above all still smile.gif perhaps this comes from being poor...or perhaps it's because I'm cheap (side effect of being either poor or fairly wealthy)

Yeah I'm not wealthy either. My CPU cooler is pretty cheap, and a reason I won't get into water cooling is that I can't afford it.
 
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the stock heatsink fan works well for this but it can be loud...you could.put it inside the panel if you have room....I saw 10c reduction in my socket temps with.a fan realistically 5 to 15c is a possibility...fan on front of.vrms helps as well...but in my case backside fan did the most for socket temps

That thing is so loud you think you're on a jet fighter. No, I think I'll get a 12 cm silent fan, and mount it on the outside. It can be done to look pretty if you put a good grill for the fan.
well if you set the profile for the stock fan low enough in the BIOS it is quite acceptable actually!

Here is what I did. My stock heatsink now VRM fan doesn't go above 4000RPM.


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I think you did well, the low profile set would have gimped performance in my opinion.

In other news, I've lead a horse to water, will he take a drink???? tongue.gif

pshootr <---- takes a "gulp" and proudly wipes his chin.. drool.gif
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Originally Posted by miklkit View Post

The racers have a saying. " Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?"

A year ago I actually started buying water cooling parts. Then added up the total cost starting with a new case, the time it would take, and that it was all for 200mgz. The parts are still sitting in their boxes over in the corner.

Perhaps cssorkinman will one day convince me the buy them from you.. doh.gif

smile.gif

I've seen several dozen people trying to get 5 ghz on air with only 3 that I remember ever actually getting there, 2 of which were on the GD-80 which in my case runs about 10 C cooler than my Crosshair's do. Thus giving it a chance as a 10 c drop in core temps can give up to 200mhz in oc headroom at load from my experience. Off hand, I'd say you have about a 3 % chance of getting 5ghz ibt stable on air.
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smile.gif

I've seen several dozen people trying to get 5 ghz on air with only 3 that I remember ever actually getting there, 2 of which were on the GD-80 which in my case runs about 10 C cooler than my Crosshair's do. Thus giving it a chance as a 10 c drop in core temps can give up to 200mhz in oc headroom at load from my experience. Off hand, I'd say you have about a 3 % chance of getting 5ghz ibt stable on air.

Amazing how the GD80 pulls off such low temps. I have no idea why they don't put LLC on that board though. Indeed I think 5GHz is not a reasonable expectation on air, however I am trying to be optimistic about hitting 4.8 and I understand even that will require some effort and is likely to be touch and go. Having said that, I would be happy with 4.8 on air, for how long I don't know hehe.

I oc for the fun of it. Running at higher than 4.5-4.6 is just a want, not a need.

Edit:

By the way, thank you very much for sharing your expertise and taking the time to share your experience. thumb.gif
Edited by pshootr - 2/1/15 at 11:24am
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One thing waterooling could really prove beneficial is in the GPU IMO.

From playing with a reference 290 and any other GPU, temps reaching 80C at stock, fan whine, and throttling, I'm gonna say its worth the cost.

Now sitting at max of 50C with a better OC, and less of the noise. I may have been doomed with my FX, but you get the idea. Give me a good clocker and I can push things higher than you can imagine. That 0.150 Volts on core headroom over air cooling is way more worth 200MHz.
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what everyone is missing

assuming you dont buy a mono block ( only out for intel ) basically everything is reusable.

gpu blocks/vrm blocks are the only thing that are not.

at worst you have to spend ~100 on gpu ~ 60-70 on VRM ( AGAIN THIS IS AT WORST )
( not inc fan failures )
very very rarely do you have to have a new cpu block

you have a chance the water can ruin your stuff

if you dont feel comfortable with that dont do it.


high cost to get into water cooling.

low maint costs
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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

One thing waterooling could really prove beneficial is in the GPU IMO.

From playing with a reference 290 and any other GPU, temps reaching 80C at stock, fan whine, and throttling, I'm gonna say its worth the cost.

Now sitting at max of 50C with a better OC, and less of the noise. I may have been doomed with my FX, but you get the idea. Give me a good clocker and I can push things higher than you can imagine. That 0.150 Volts on core headroom over air cooling is way more worth 200MHz.
Dude. I know its off topic. But EVERY TIME i see your avatar I LOL!
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