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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

what everyone is missing

assuming you dont buy a mono block ( only out for intel ) basically everything is reusable.

gpu blocks/vrm blocks are the only thing that are not.

at worst you have to spend ~100 on gpu ~ 60-70 on VRM ( AGAIN THIS IS AT WORST )
( not inc fan failures )
very very rarely do you have to have a new cpu block

you have a chance the water can ruin your stuff

if you dont feel comfortable with that dont do it.


high cost to get into water cooling.

low maint costs

Hmm, we're not trying to peer pressure him intentionally but it might come across that way I guess. Stick to air if you really cant find any confidence to do so but just accept 4.7ghz as a safe manageable overclock.
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I think you did well, the low profile set would have gimped performance in my opinion.

In other news, I've lead a horse to water, will he take a drink???? tongue.gif

pshootr <---- takes a "gulp" and proudly wipes his chin.. drool.gif
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Originally Posted by miklkit View Post

The racers have a saying. " Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?"

A year ago I actually started buying water cooling parts. Then added up the total cost starting with a new case, the time it would take, and that it was all for 200mgz. The parts are still sitting in their boxes over in the corner.

Perhaps cssorkinman will one day convince me the buy them from you.. doh.gif

smile.gif

I've seen several dozen people trying to get 5 ghz on air with only 3 that I remember ever actually getting there, 2 of which were on the GD-80 which in my case runs about 10 C cooler than my Crosshair's do. Thus giving it a chance as a 10 c drop in core temps can give up to 200mhz in oc headroom at load from my experience. Off hand, I'd say you have about a 3 % chance of getting 5ghz ibt stable on air.

 

Why do you have to start me thinking about it?

 

5.0GHz = $110 Silver Arrow

1150 Core on air

red17766970cosmosnewhom.jpg

 

5.3GHz

1300 Core = $2200

 

 

Ya gotta love it, or be nuts. :D

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Why do you have to start me thinking about it?

5.0GHz = $110 Silver Arrow
1150 Core on air Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
red17766970cosmosnewhom.jpg

5.3GHz
1300 Core = $2200
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Ya gotta love it, or be nuts. biggrin.gif

before someone beats me to it, I'll go proof.gif

tongue.giftongue.giftongue.gif

$2200 seems a lot but you know, this is OCN biggrin.gif

Are those the numbers you're getting now on the rig? hmm I'm wetting here @Red1776
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Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post

Why do you have to start me thinking about it?

5.0GHz = $110 Silver Arrow
1150 Core on air
red17766970cosmosnewhom.jpg


5.3GHz
1300 Core = $2200




Ya gotta love it, or be nuts. biggrin.gif


2200 dollar only for cooling??

Where do you get your parts from tongue.gif

That is more than i payed for my entire rig biggrin.gif
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what everyone is missing

assuming you dont buy a mono block ( only out for intel ) basically everything is reusable.

gpu blocks/vrm blocks are the only thing that are not.

at worst you have to spend ~100 on gpu ~ 60-70 on VRM ( AGAIN THIS IS AT WORST )
( not inc fan failures )
very very rarely do you have to have a new cpu block

you have a chance the water can ruin your stuff

if you dont feel comfortable with that dont do it.


high cost to get into water cooling.

low maint costs

Those are all very good points. And though I am not above saving money to buy things I do not need, I do find the cost of a loop as being overboard for me anyways, considering nothing I do on my pc actually requires CPU speeds higher than what I already have. Not that I wouldn't like to have a loop, just saying.

The part that really hits home is that I work hard for my money, and it could take me many weeks/paychecks to replace my rig. So If I can resist the temptation, then I will never have to worry about having to replace my whole rig after coming home to find a puddle of water inside my case. Will I throw caution to the wind one day and get a loop, very possible. Like I said, I think all the points you made are spot on.
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Originally Posted by Benjiw View Post

Hmm, we're not trying to peer pressure him intentionally but it might come across that way I guess. Stick to air if you really cant find any confidence to do so but just accept 4.7ghz as a safe manageable overclock.

So far I am sticking to air. I have confidence in my ability to assemble and configure a loop properly, having said that confidence can be an unforgiving quality sometimes. I do accept the limitations of air-cooling, but that does not mean I am ready to give up on improving my current OC (4.6). Hell if there was no challenge in overclocking, then I think it might be kind of boring and we wouldn't have much to talk about. biggrin.gif
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Why do you have to start me thinking about it?

5.0GHz = $110 Silver Arrow
1150 Core on air
red17766970cosmosnewhom.jpg


5.3GHz
1300 Core = $2200




Ya gotta love it, or be nuts. biggrin.gif


2200 dollar only for cooling??

Where do you get your parts from tongue.gif

That is more than i payed for my entire rig biggrin.gif

My loop was around $300 or so and I'm very pleased with it, saw no need to throw the gpu in seeing as the stock cooling works quite well (stock fan was meh though).

I mean on a H100i i could do 5.0 stable but it was warmer than id like so instead of forking out for another AIO i went water, no regrets now biggrin.gif
 
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My loop was around $300 or so and I'm very pleased with it, saw no need to throw the gpu in seeing as the stock cooling works quite well (stock fan was meh though).

I mean on a H100i i could do 5.0 stable but it was warmer than id like so instead of forking out for another AIO i went water, no regrets now biggrin.gif
Mines about 300 as well...no gpu as well... wanna upgrade that when i get something more up to date :0
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My loop was around $300 or so and I'm very pleased with it, saw no need to throw the gpu in seeing as the stock cooling works quite well (stock fan was meh though).

I mean on a H100i i could do 5.0 stable but it was warmer than id like so instead of forking out for another AIO i went water, no regrets now biggrin.gif
Mines about 300 as well...no gpu as well... wanna upgrade that when i get something more up to date :0

Well another couple of reasons i never got a GPU block is because they are around $200 each for mine, and I'd need more rad space which means id need external rad :/

Maybe when the R9 3xx or 4xx series come out i might think about it but i have enough power to keep me going for a while wink.gif
 
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Why do you have to start me thinking about it?

5.0GHz = $110 Silver Arrow
1150 Core on air
red17766970cosmosnewhom.jpg


5.3GHz
1300 Core = $2200




Ya gotta love it, or be nuts. biggrin.gif

What kind of vcore were you hitting on air? I can safely run at 1.54 but the cpu won't go anywhere.
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Those are all very good points. And though I am not above saving money to buy things I do not need, I do find the cost of a loop as being overboard for me anyways, considering nothing I do on my pc actually requires CPU speeds higher than what I already have. Not that I wouldn't like to have a loop, just saying.

The part that really hits home is that I work hard for my money, and it could take me many weeks/paychecks to replace my rig. So If I can resist the temptation, then I will never have to worry about having to replace my whole rig after coming home to find a puddle of water inside my case. Will I throw caution to the wind one day and get a loop, very possible. Like I said, I think all the points you made are spot on.
So far I am sticking to air. I have confidence in my ability to assemble and configure a loop properly, having said that confidence can be an unforgiving quality sometimes. I do accept the limitations of air-cooling, but that does not mean I am ready to give up on improving my current OC (4.6). Hell if there was no challenge in overclocking, then I think it might be kind of boring and we wouldn't have much to talk about. biggrin.gif

An AIO would offer better temps than Air Coolers. Just my 2cents.gif

I got hooked on watercooling when someone sold me a 240 mm kit for about $100 on local trade site. You can try the OCN Marketplace as some users get rid of their stuff for a lot less money.

Now grabbing things piece by piece with the most recent addition of 2 - 480mm HW Black Ice GTXs. If ever you wanna bit the bullet, I think it's better for you to piece things out and not rush on things. It's an expensive hobby when you buy things without a lot of thinking prior to purchasing. Think about the priorities, looks, etc. So you won't end up wasting components you might not like. thumb.gif
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