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Agreed!
I will be curious to see the usage during the loads... I will also test this on my gaming box later...
the largest culprit so far is advanced warfare I've seen 74c on my cores before...mine pegs on a few games 100%
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That's interesting. I'm gonna have to look at that a little more closely tonight

I remember seeing a lot of peaks and valleys on the cpu usage graphs during BF4 loading, but the peaks are usually very, very short... My HDD though sits peaked at 100% usage while loading which isn't fun
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There's a guy claiming 5ghz on an fx6300 cooling it with a h60 is that even possible?
Perhaps...the little brother (6300) seems to require less cooling.

Yep, i had my 6300 at 4.5 stable on the Stock 125w Cooler, gonna try under my loop at some point smile.gif
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Wondering if I could ask a favor from one of the club members?
I've got my benching rigs outfitted with chips other than Vishera's and would like to see a cpu/gpu usage screenshot from the "combined" portion of Firestrike. If someone with an 8 core Vishera and dual monitors would like to capture a SS for me, I'd sure appreciate it. If not, I'll most likely have a Vishera back online in a couple days, but I'm a bit impatient....lol. Clockspeeds aren't important.

Something that looks like this would be great.



I was thinking that cpu usage is only about 60% on the Vishera runs but wanted to make sure.

Thank you smile.gif

EDIT: forgot to mention this, It's important to capture the SS a few seconds into the test as cpu usage ramps up until the characters get to the left side of the screen as they fight.


I'm using Triple atm......does it need to be Dual?

What exactly are you looking for?
. I was noticining the combined score was better on my thubans than my visheras in fire strike despite lwerer physics scores. Just looking to explain it away. Any screen shot showing CPU usage at that point in the bench would be fine. It gets about 90% usage out of the thuban but I think it gimps the vishera to about 60% if I remember correctly.


Ohhh, i know what that is. (I get to teach you something for a change biggrin.gif )

Firestrike Physics test uses Logical cores (so for the FX 8xxx it uses 8 cores/threads, i7-47xx it's 8 threads, Thuban it's 6 cores/threads etc) while the Combined test uses "Physical' Cores (i7-47xx = 4 Cores, Thuban = 6 cores and FX = 4 cores)

Basically Futuremark doesn't see the FX chips as having 8 cores.....they see it as a 4 Module/ 4 Core CPU with 8 threads.

I have a tweet from them at some point saying it if you'd like to see it?

but yeah.....basically all FX chips take a dump in the combined test due to the fact they are only at half load rolleyes.gif

EDIT: Found that tweet:


Thank you smile.gif.

I'll do a run with the DC rig and capture it's usage as well, shenanigans I tells ya!

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Wondering if I could ask a favor from one of the club members?
I've got my benching rigs outfitted with chips other than Vishera's and would like to see a cpu/gpu usage screenshot from the "combined" portion of Firestrike. If someone with an 8 core Vishera and dual monitors would like to capture a SS for me, I'd sure appreciate it. If not, I'll most likely have a Vishera back online in a couple days, but I'm a bit impatient....lol. Clockspeeds aren't important.

Something that looks like this would be great.



I was thinking that cpu usage is only about 60% on the Vishera runs but wanted to make sure.

Thank you smile.gif

EDIT: forgot to mention this, It's important to capture the SS a few seconds into the test as cpu usage ramps up until the characters get to the left side of the screen as they fight.

guise.... I called this months and months ago... before hurricane got his 970 to put a time frame to it.

combined appears to be intentionally gimping CMT, with little to no reason.. Alot of games don't favor CMT but they don't gimp it either. the combined aspect of firestrike is an unrealistic benchmark for the real world comparison side by side.

Still want that Usage during combined screen shot?
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There's a guy claiming 5ghz on an fx6300 cooling it with a h60 is that even possible?
Perhaps...the little brother (6300) seems to require less cooling.

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Wondering if I could ask a favor from one of the club members?
I've got my benching rigs outfitted with chips other than Vishera's and would like to see a cpu/gpu usage screenshot from the "combined" portion of Firestrike. If someone with an 8 core Vishera and dual monitors would like to capture a SS for me, I'd sure appreciate it. If not, I'll most likely have a Vishera back online in a couple days, but I'm a bit impatient....lol. Clockspeeds aren't important.

Something that looks like this would be great.



I was thinking that cpu usage is only about 60% on the Vishera runs but wanted to make sure.

Thank you smile.gif

EDIT: forgot to mention this, It's important to capture the SS a few seconds into the test as cpu usage ramps up until the characters get to the left side of the screen as they fight.


I'm using Triple atm......does it need to be Dual?

What exactly are you looking for?
. I was noticining the combined score was better on my thubans than my visheras in fire strike despite lwerer physics scores. Just looking to explain it away. Any screen shot showing CPU usage at that point in the bench would be fine. It gets about 90% usage out of the thuban but I think it gimps the vishera to about 60% if I remember correctly.


Ohhh, i know what that is. (I get to teach you something for a change biggrin.gif )

Firestrike Physics test uses Logical cores (so for the FX 8xxx it uses 8 cores/threads, i7-47xx it's 8 threads, Thuban it's 6 cores/threads etc) while the Combined test uses "Physical' Cores (i7-47xx = 4 Cores, Thuban = 6 cores and FX = 4 cores)

Basically Futuremark doesn't see the FX chips as having 8 cores.....they see it as a 4 Module/ 4 Core CPU with 8 threads.

I have a tweet from them at some point saying it if you'd like to see it?

but yeah.....basically all FX chips take a dump in the combined test due to the fact they are only at half load rolleyes.gif

EDIT: Found that tweet:


Thank you smile.gif.

I'll do a run with the DC rig and capture it's usage as well, shenanigans I tells ya!

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Wondering if I could ask a favor from one of the club members?
I've got my benching rigs outfitted with chips other than Vishera's and would like to see a cpu/gpu usage screenshot from the "combined" portion of Firestrike. If someone with an 8 core Vishera and dual monitors would like to capture a SS for me, I'd sure appreciate it. If not, I'll most likely have a Vishera back online in a couple days, but I'm a bit impatient....lol. Clockspeeds aren't important.

Something that looks like this would be great.



I was thinking that cpu usage is only about 60% on the Vishera runs but wanted to make sure.

Thank you smile.gif

EDIT: forgot to mention this, It's important to capture the SS a few seconds into the test as cpu usage ramps up until the characters get to the left side of the screen as they fight.

guise.... I called this months and months ago... before hurricane got his 970 to put a time frame to it.

combined appears to be intentionally gimping CMT, with little to no reason.. Alot of games don't favor CMT but they don't gimp it either. the combined aspect of firestrike is an unrealistic benchmark for the real world comparison side by side.

Still want that Usage during combined screen shot?

I remember people talking about it, didn't remember whom specifically. I only have gotten around to running firestrike on my X6's in the last few days, so that's what brought back the interest on the subject.
If you would like to do the SS that's fine, but don't trouble yourself too much.... I'd take your word for it if you simply tell me the cpu usage during the combined test on the vishera smile.gif
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I'd like to see score on that run Flail did, and then the i5/i7 usage on your intel rigs @cssorkinman

I'm curious about this also.... cause the x6 murders the vishera clock for clock, and even performs in line with the i5.
What the hell is this test using (or not using) that is favoring this architecture so much?

Cause I want all games to be written with these methods biggrin.gif

Seriously though... what gives?
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I'd like to see score on that run Flail did, and then the i5/i7 usage on your intel rigs @cssorkinman

I'm curious about this also.... cause the x6 murders the vishera clock for clock, and even performs in line with the i5.
What the hell is this test using (or not using) that is favoring this architecture so much?

Cause I want all games to be written with these methods biggrin.gif

Seriously though... what gives?

That was a custom run of just combined.

scored 3405.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3797285

that would be a fairly accurate run to current settings (i think i've upped a volt or two and downed one, nothing else for the CPU, the gpu is clocked down from my max oc due to not being able to cool the ram sufficiently )

that was 1280/1930, currently running 1261/1851
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I've definitely seen the CPU Usage raise up to near 100% while on load screens. Most recent was Dragon Age Inquisition. On my 860K the CPU usage neared 100% on all 4-cores at the loading screen causing more heat during that time. Eventually near the end of the loading the CPU usage would go down and the GPU usage goes up as it gets ready let the user play the game. Seems even worse with Mantle on in DA:I. My A4-4000 and 860K has crashed several times during the loading screen it's not even funny.
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I'd like to see score on that run Flail did, and then the i5/i7 usage on your intel rigs @cssorkinman

I'm curious about this also.... cause the x6 murders the vishera clock for clock, and even performs in line with the i5.
What the hell is this test using (or not using) that is favoring this architecture so much?

Cause I want all games to be written with these methods biggrin.gif

Seriously though... what gives?

By the small glimpse of reading of the previous two pages it seems Firestrike may only use what they think/is actual cores. So a Thuban 6-Core is a full 6-Core while with Visheras it would be 4-Cores for the FX 8, 3-Cores for the FX 6, and 2-Cores for the FX 4. Not sure though. As the CPUs don't seem to be on a even playing field I may not use Firestrike at all (not that I do benchmarking in general).
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the only reason why x6's will do better on combined ONLY is because they will be fully utilized. all 6 cores.

like i said earlier, its the most unrealistic aspect of the benchmark.. I can't find a game that will run like that @ 1080... can't find one.. period.

maybe if i mod Crysis3 for 4k or 8k textures and then max it out.. but that is utterly edge case.. the game doesn't need it LMAO
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I've definitely seen the CPU Usage raise up to near 100% while on load screens. Most recent was Dragon Age Inquisition. On my 860K the CPU usage neared 100% on all 4-cores at the loading screen causing more heat during that time. Eventually near the end of the loading the CPU usage would go down and the GPU usage goes up as it gets ready let the user play the game. Seems even worse with Mantle on in DA:I. My A4-4000 and 860K has crashed several times during the loading screen it's not even funny.
By the small glimpse of reading of the previous two pages it seems Firestrike may only use what they think/is actual cores. So a Thuban 6-Core is a full 6-Core while with Visheras it would be 4-Cores for the FX 8, 3-Cores for the FX 6, and 2-Cores for the FX 4. Not sure though. As the CPUs don't seem to be on a even playing field I may not use Firestrike at all (not that I do benchmarking in general).

That seems to be the case for the combined score segment, since we can see a lot of i7's scoring lower than i5's at the same speed (loading down 4 virtually divided cores is obviously less efficient than just loading down 4 cores) on combined scores, and we also 5GHz visheras scoring less than 4GHz -thubans.....

Oddly enough though, the physics scores seem to use all available threads, but the thuban still puts up i5 comparable numbers there too??? Vishera seems to land between i5 and i7 (which is where I put it in the gran scheme of things anyways).
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ADATA SP550 240GB SSD Lite On 24x DVD  Corsair H80i Windows 10 
MonitorPowerCase
46" 1080P LED TV Raidmax RX850 Apevia X-Dreamer 3 Pink 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-9590 @ 5GHz Asus 990FX Sabertooth Rev 2.0 MSI Gaming 390X G. Skill Trident X 4x4GB  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA 3  LEPA 240AC Windows 10 x64 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 55UB8500 55" 4K 3D TV Logitech MK350 Rosewill HIVE 850 NZXT S340 
MouseMouse PadOther
Logitech G700s Aukey Smooth 36" Gaming Pad Logitech Driving Force GT  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom X6 1065T @ 4GHz - 1.45v MSI 970 Gaming XFX DD 7870 Black Edition @ 1200/1500 G. Skill Trident-X 8GB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
ADATA SP550 240GB SSD Lite On 24x DVD  Corsair H80i Windows 10 
MonitorPowerCase
46" 1080P LED TV Raidmax RX850 Apevia X-Dreamer 3 Pink 
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