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Kyadck,
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Alright, few things.
1: Prime is a PITA, try Intel Burn Test and OCCT.

Yes, sure seems Prime95 is a PITA. However I am inclined to trust that if it passes, the system is stable.
Not completely sure I'm ready to say all Prim95 failures with the FX are stability related. But I'm running it with stock settings (minus all power saving stuff) just to see how it does.
I will download OCCT also.
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2: BIOS F9 managed to mess up LLC. If you would like to try it, I have a copy of the F9e BIOS where it does work.

In what way is the LLC messed up in F9 ?
I would prefer to get my BIOS from Gigabyte as I have messed up boards before and it's very painful.
I'm running an FX-8350 though so I don't think I can go to older BIOS than F9.
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3: Sorry to say it, but Giga is kinda iffy on the whole FSB thing. I think one guy with a UD5 got a FSB clock to work, otherwise Giga has been pretty much all-multi.

Well, I have made some progress with the FSB OC. It's all OK with IBT. But that's just too short of a test.
With prime95 it still failed at 240 or 260 FSB. I haven't been able to go to 280 or 300 FSB, but apparently some people have run it according to the first page of this thread. Though maybe not with the Gigabyte mobo.
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4: Dunno if you're giving the board enough time, but a failed OC at POST, it'll reboot with "stock" on it's own and give you a heads up after 20 seconds. Also, when you have the settings you want, press F11 on the BIOS "home" screen, and save your profile. You can save up to 8 different setting profiles. When you need to get them back, press F12, and chose the profile.

I'm giving it plenty of time. Even power it down unplug the PSU from the wall for some time, until all power is gone. But sometimes it just won't come back if the BIOS settings are too messed up. A few times when I messed up the settings, it kept rebooting itself, I would hear the fans come on full speed for a short time. But never got to beeping or displaying anything. Those times the only thing that works is the screwdriver to reset the CMOS.
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Lets see, settings...
FSB: 200
CPU: 5000Mhz (x25)
NB: 2200Mhz (x11)
HT: 2600Mhz (x13)
PCI-e: 100
RAM: 1600 (x8)
RAM timings: 10-10-10-27 1T
vCore: 1.5v

Thanks.
What kind of cooler are you using ?

1.5V seems a bit high for my air.
Though your settings do work and let me boot windows. Just can't run P95 stable with them.
My RAM timings are 9-9-9-24 as per Corsair.
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CPU PLL: 2.695v
RAM: 1.515v (theres some vdroop, the extra .015 compensates for it)
LLC: High

OK, will play with those 3.
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Turbo: Off
C'n'Q: On
APM: Off
C1E: Off
C6: Off

Why do you keep the CnQ on but turn off all the other power saving features ?
For OC testing don't you want to have all power saving features off ?
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Want something more complete, I'll give you a copy of my BIOS, and you'll get my profiles with it.
Any other questions?

This was what I was looking for, thank you !

You can't get it from Gigabyte, because it's the "experimental" version of the F9 BIOS, it is no longer available.

The full F9 messed up LLC by any setting you chose ends up acting like Ultra High; it adds voltage. This was not the case with F9e where it flatlined the voltage on High as it should. If yours is working fine, then great, but it should work like this when the CPU is under load:

Regular: Allow vDroop
Medium: Allow some vDroop
High: keep voltage at what you set in BIOS
Ultra High: Add some voltage
Extreme: Add more voltage


That sucks. I had to do that while I was messing with RAM before.

However, what I said about profiles stands. Set them, and recall when you have to reset CMOS or your OC fails. 3 key strokes (Del, F12, enter) and you have all your work back.


My cooler is an H100 push/pull with 4 stock Corsair fans on intake. 60% fan for normal use, 100% when I need to really stress it.


I am beyond OC testing, this is my 24/7 clock.

I turned C'n'Q back on, as it is the feature that allows the CPU to throttle down when idle, and I'm interested in saving power and reducing heat when I can, while still retaining the power to get work done when I need it.

Turning it on for normal use is also my last test for stability. It's great that my CPU can now run at 5Ghz, but can it jump between idle, medium and full use stepping without crashing?





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The site has been wonky for me today, it did that and some other screwy things too
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playing around with my two rigs.
i5 3570k + GTX 680 (998USD) vs. FX8320 + GTX 670 (750USD)
i5 3570k + gtx 680
i5 3570k + GTX 680
FX8320 + GTX 670 (would've been better if I had a 7970 which is actually cheaper than a gtx 670 from where I'm from)
FX-8320 + GTX 670
25% cheaper but only 10% minus the performance. not bad eh biggrin.gif
more coming up


you should set it to max.
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add me to the list finally rolleyes.gif
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You can't get it from Gigabyte, because it's the "experimental" version of the F9 BIOS, it is no longer available.

OK, I guess I will wait for the next official one then.
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However, what I said about profiles stands. Set them, and recall when you have to reset CMOS or your OC fails. 3 key strokes (Del, F12, enter) and you have all your work back.

Are you saying these profiles will survive a CMOS reset ? That seems counterintuitive. If so, I will try it after my 12 hours of P95 on stock settings finishes.
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My cooler is an H100 push/pull with 4 stock Corsair fans on intake. 60% fan for normal use, 100% when I need to really stress it.

OK.
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I am beyond OC testing, this is my 24/7 clock.
I turned C'n'Q back on, as it is the feature that allows the CPU to throttle down when idle, and I'm interested in saving power and reducing heat when I can, while still retaining the power to get work done when I need it.
Turning it on for normal use is also my last test for stability. It's great that my CPU can now run at 5Ghz, but can it jump between idle, medium and full use stepping without crashing?

I see, that makes sense.
I'm interested in saving power too, but still in the OC testing phase. Once I'm done with it I would like to put all the power saving features back.
That has worked on my Phenom II x6 1055T 3.8 GHz OC and I hope it would work with the FX-8350 too.

Just to clarify, your 5 GHz setup is 24/7 stable with Prime95 or not ?

Edit: what is your CPU peak core temp under stress ?
What about the mobo peak temp (TMPIN1 / TMPIN2 on CPUmon).

My Prime95 on stock settings, has been running for 3 hours with no errors. I will let it stay overnight just to confirm Prime95 is not busted with the FX-8350 chip as some seem to be implying on this forum. The peak vcore is 45°C which seems pretty good to me considering all of the power saving features are disabled.
Voltage range is 1.33 -1.38V - stock is 1.3375V, and LLC is default which is auto.
The TMP0/TMP1/TMP2 mobo sensors peaks are 40/44/57C respectively. I don't see any reason these will get any higher overnight as the ambient temperature will drop.

I could have bought an H100 for not much more than the NH-D14, but am really scared about a leak and killing all the parts one day. With my usual luck, I will be the one to suffer it. So no water cooling for me.
Edited by madbrain - 11/30/12 at 8:17pm
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I was just typing the same thing and you beat me to it. The min frame is worthless. If you notice while it's running, that low frame shows up immediately and nowhere else in the bench does it come remotely close to that frame rate.

yeah, it happens with my runs as well.
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Why I do not trust Prime 95.



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how are we supposed to load these things if prime is messed up? id rather not use linpack, dont want anything to melt
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Why I do not trust Prime 95.

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Do you have any evidence the short failure is due to a problem in Prime95 itself, and not your OC being unstable ?
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