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old dead fan, take out fan and use to mount 360 on the rear, heat outside, that's what I did with the top rad.
you will need clearance for the leads doh, so working fan and dead one? or dat mount kit?
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I'm considering replacing my phanteks enthoo pro with the primo...getting these 290s I'm gonna want more rad space...

Then why swap it for a similarly small case? Just gut the one you have out and fit 2x360 or 2x420 rads? I thought these Phanteks cases could be modded to high hell? wink.gif
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For what its worth, I just switched from an Asrock Fatality Pro which has a stronger VRM than the killer does, and I was still stuck at 4.6 on that board. Whether is is solely due to the board itself or the fact that it is aging, I don't know. I ran the Fatality Pro overclocked 24/7 for three years.

It has always been a great board to me, but for whatever reason, it was holding me back at 4.6GHz on this Vishera chip. The board would run my PII chip 1.42v+, but anything over 1.4v on the Vishera would cause freezing at the start of any heavy stress.

That is worth a lot. Things do seem that I am hitting the 4.6g wall there.

My speeds are the same, 1.475 voltages give or take my brains recall. HT 2600freq, NB 2200freq at 1.275 voltages. DDR3 is at PC2133 2x8g, today a pair of g.skill sniper 1866 2x4g are supposed to arrive. My thought is that if I drop the RAM OC some I can bring down stress in some way, any comments?

My means of test so far are prime95 Heat punishment, 3Dmark11, and Peacekeeper. These all seem to run without fail, but IBT AVX does not like the sixth pass or test on these settings, it always kicks me out.

I ask the question(s) am I missing something with Windows 7 hotfixes or do I have to do something special for IBT stress testing on the fx8320? When I ran Peacekeeper Browser Benching, it did show eight photos with the comment "this test is meant for multi core processors" and the sixth photo in myeyes was chipped with a black mark. My interested brain saw that as an overclock scar meant for manufactures to know if I am trying to con their warranty. What can I say, I may reading way too far into things these days.

I'd like to put this build to rest, since I have been overclocking my brain day and night for nearly one week straight, and without 4k being my goal or anything since I do not have the monitors. My entire approach was buy as quickly as I could, and I missed out on DDR4 being the new.
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you missed the point doh.gif

they carbon copied caselabs ..... which means they wont get my business

Yup, sorry i thought it was obvious enough.

It's a flat out copy
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I'm going for a 900D next time around, Caselabs is nice and all but the price.....too pricy for my liking redface.gif

Ya I like the 900D, that is a nice looking case and it seems very roomy. Corsair fans look cool in the bottom tongue.gif
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yup, it's roomy, tall, has the rad support i want.......crappy thing is it's quite pricey but oh well, It's avaliable here and i'm still 12 months off getting it

Entho Primo smile.gif

interesting.....didn't even think of it tbh

Will take a look considering it's $130 cheaper than the 900D but doesn't look quite as open, Thanks though mate smile.gif

I was super interested in a 900D, then i saw a buddy of mines, let me get this out there before i say my opinion, I've not built in that case but i have absolutely no interest in it.

The amount of case modding i'd have to do to make it suitable for me, with that price tag attached has made me seriously reconsider.

while IIRC, the Entho Primo has the sameish amount of rad space (it might be short one 140m spot can't remember)

A more please asthetic to myself and less modding required for a noticeable discount.

rad mount locations are something like:(prolly not exact but its in the ball part)
360/280 in the front
240 in the rear side panel (the side that doesn't have a window)
240/280 on the bottom
360/420 on top
and a 140 at rear.

Its not quite the same as rad spots as a CaseLabs but for its price range.. you cannot beat it.
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For what its worth, I just switched from an Asrock Fatality Pro which has a stronger VRM than the killer does, and I was still stuck at 4.6 on that board. Whether is is solely due to the board itself or the fact that it is aging, I don't know. I ran the Fatality Pro overclocked 24/7 for three years.

It has always been a great board to me, but for whatever reason, it was holding me back at 4.6GHz on this Vishera chip. The board would run my PII chip 1.42v+, but anything over 1.4v on the Vishera would cause freezing at the start of any heavy stress
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That is worth a lot. Things do seem that I am hitting the 4.6g wall there.

My speeds are the same, 1.475 voltages give or take my brains recall. HT 2600freq, NB 2200freq at 1.275 voltages. DDR3 is at PC2133 2x8g, today a pair of g.skill sniper 1866 2x4g are supposed to arrive. My thought is that if I drop the RAM OC some I can bring down stress in some way, any comments?

My means of test so far are prime95 Heat punishment, 3Dmark11, and Peacekeeper. These all seem to run without fail, but IBT AVX does not like the sixth pass or test on these settings, it always kicks me out.

I ask the question(s) am I missing something with Windows 7 hotfixes or do I have to do something special for IBT stress testing on the fx8320? When I ran Peacekeeper Browser Benching, it did show eight photos with the comment "this test is meant for multi core processors" and the sixth photo in myeyes was chipped with a black mark. My interested brain saw that as an overclock scar meant for manufactures to know if I am trying to con their warranty. What can I say, I may reading way too far into things these days.

I'd like to put this build to rest, since I have been overclocking my brain day and night for nearly one week straight, and without 4k being my goal or anything since I do not have the monitors. My entire approach was buy as quickly as I could, and I missed out on DDR4 being the new.

ACK.. eh.. 1.275 on the NB or CPU/NB?

how long have you tested with prime? (to the other... no prime vs ibt please.. its personal preference, as long as you run one or the other long enough you should be fine)

nothing from Futuremark is a Stress test... they are benchmarks.

if you want a benchmark with stress test options Look at ROG realbench

Windows 7, absolutely NEEDS those hotfixes for ANY variation of this micro-architecture. It has to do with thread scheduling by the operating system.


on warrenties: They are always Void once you start overclocking.. Warrenties are for the stock speed. RMAing a chip due to a being a bad overclocker is a pretty low thing to do.
It isn't the companies fault it doesn't run at what you want it to.. because it will run stock for many many years..

it is an even lower thing to blame a bad overclock on a chip when they've got little to no clue on what they are doing... and then RMA the chip..doh.gif

nothing special right now about DDR4 in the consumer market place.. once you get into pro-sumer content production systems.. ya ddr4 has its advantages.

It is available on one platform, that to my knowledge is still having the bug worked out of it..

purchases of DDR4 should really wait until a few month after the next intel mainstream launch. hopefully we have more information about Zen by that point.
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When it comes to cases and watercooling, you're better off buying a decently sized case then modding it to suit your needs, that or building a rad box and hiding it where ever. Caselabs and Parvum are damn good at what they do and once I've modded the crap out of this 500R, I will never buy an off the shelf case again, there are too many flaws in their designs and the price to quality ratio is way off. I keep seeing, "buy a (insert phanteks case here)" and I had the chance to poke my head inside one of the luxe cases and I'm very unimpressed.

That's just my opinion though, and I have said it before so........

Parvum recently showed off a frosted case:




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When it comes to cases and watercooling, you're better off buying a decently sized case then modding it to suit your needs, that or building a rad box and hiding it where ever. Caselabs and Parvum are damn good at what they do and once I've modded the crap out of this 500R, I will never buy an off the shelf case again, there are too many flaws in their designs and the price to quality ratio is way off. I keep seeing, "buy a (insert phanteks case here)" and I had the chance to poke my head inside one of the luxe cases and I'm very unimpressed.

That's just my opinion though, and I have said it before so........

Parvum recently showed off a frosted case:



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Whut?

Aren't you the one who said this?:
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Cube cases really don't do it for me, I dunno why though, I want to like them... but I can't. frown.gif

You don't fancy a cube ehh? tongue.gif
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Then why swap it for a similarly small case? Just gut the one you have out and fit 2x360 or 2x420 rads? I thought these Phanteks cases could be modded to high hell? wink.gif
they can be every part is removable and held by screws...however the primo is much larger and has the psu mounted sideways with room for a large rad across entire bottom...but I'm probably gonna extend the top of my pro with acrylic...and add the space I need...much cheaper and will be unique...also I'm considering making it so the res sits in the top with the second pump attached for filing bleeding purposes....and possibly extended past the back for two large rads up top....waiting on tax returns first
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oddest boot ever, 4.7 at 1.416?smile.gif
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ACK.. eh.. 1.275 on the NB or CPU/NB?

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CPUside (CPU/NB), forgive my terminology folly, I do not necessarily always have a grip on how the communication works. I am constantly reminding and teaching myself.

Thanks for the helps. The new ram is a bit more snappy. I'll have to get in the hotfixes.

Now I need to seek consoling for addictive personality computer use I think. As far as RMA a CPU, never done it, for some reason though I always pay attention to exploits of the like. I do not know why for some reason my mind is hardwired to see the take, shots, steal, hate hate hate cops, and front bigger than I ever will be. It could really be considered a problem, I always hold myself back, down, and I feel it. Cagey?
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ACK.. eh.. 1.275 on the NB or CPU/NB?

.

CPUside (CPU/NB), forgive my terminology folly, I do not necessarily always have a grip on how the communication works. I am constantly reminding and teaching myself.

Thanks for the helps. The new ram is a bit more snappy. I'll have to get in the hotfixes.

Now I need to seek consoling for addictive personality computer use I think. As far as RMA a CPU, never done it, for some reason though I always pay attention to exploits of the like. I do not know why for some reason my mind is hardwired to see the take, shots, steal, hate hate hate cops, and front bigger than I ever will be. It could really be considered a problem, I always hold myself back, down, and I feel it. Cagey?

your cooling is holding you back BTW.. thin 120m rad is not enough for these chip above 4.5ghz

peacekeeper benchmark utilizes some aspect of shockwave/flash.. if your OC isn't stable you will run into issues with it.

if i read that Black mark thing right, it is a processing artifact. as most of the processing in web browser is done on your CPU, very little of it gets off-handed to the GPU.

more time tweaking and making stable is required.. even down clocking should be an option.
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