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Attempted to OC 200*23=4.6G.
Need to open my case or PC would directly poweroff due to CPU overheat...mad.gif

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Originally Posted by FlailScHLAMP View Post

IMHO anything over Very-high from an asus board is really not needed.

very little vboost or vdroop please...

i like my plain high llc
Well, mine doesn't work well on high and I get cooler temps with Ultra high LLC so not sure what to say really. If I use high LLC, my idle volts can be upto 1.56v and under load it shoots down to 1.484v or something. (no used high llc in a long time so unsure)
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Attempted to OC 200*23=4.6G.
Need to open my case or PC would directly poweroff due to CPU overheat...mad.gif


Ah, you have a low profile cooler on a lower tier board and I'm going to bet on a pretty restrictive case for airflow too. You're not going to get far unless you upgrade your cooling options and/or board.
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post #46963 of 67894
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I agree nothing wrong with it, it may be the best option honestly for getting the most power out of it while trying to conserve as much energy as possible. I just don't have the time currently to begin learning something new and then have to trouble shoot until I get the hang of it. I'll look up a guide though to get an overview on how it works though.

Offset voltage works like this,
CPU VID value + OffSet voltage = Vcore but you'll need to reboot to actually see the change take place. It doesn't show live in bios. Nothing to it.

Tenyleaz: you have two factors fighting you, not enough mobo and a very poor cooling solution for an octacore, not meaning to slam your equipment bud please don't be offended.

dang it, just got ninja.gif lol
Edited by The Sandman - 3/7/15 at 7:04pm
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post #46964 of 67894
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IMHO anything over Very-high from an asus board is really not needed.

very little vboost or vdroop please...

i like my plain high llc

There is no Very-High on the Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z. I'm guessing you mean Ultra-High for Very-High. Extreme is the highest, Ultra-High, High, Medium, etc are what is available from memory. I believe I will be going with Ultra-High LLC but haven't made a sure decision yet. First I will try to obtain a stable 5GHz OC with Ultra-High. After that I will try the same with High LLC. I'll compare temps and try to make a decision. With High LLC first thing is that the motherboard already sets the vcore to approximately .01/.02V less than I chose in the BIOS. So if I choose 1.55V it runs at 1.53V and then even lower when the CPU is stressed at 1.512V. Additionally 4.9GHz High LLC stable means an idle vcore of 1.536V. In comparison with Ultra-High the voltage of the CPU is a tiny bit lower than what I have set in the BIOS and when the CPU is stressed the vcore will be at the number I have set in the BIOS or .005/.01V higher. I think I'm about to get 5GHz stable so I'll be able to decide which is better for me soon.
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Originally Posted by tenyleaz View Post

Attempted to OC 200*23=4.6G.
Need to open my case or PC would directly poweroff due to CPU overheat...mad.gif
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Wow that is very high temps for a 4.6 OC but then I realized what cooler you're using. Can't even imagine how hotter it might get with the AVX version of IBT.
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Offset voltage works like this,
CPU VID value + OffSet voltage = Vcore but you'll need to reboot to actually see the change take place. It doesn't show live in bios. Nothing to it.

Tenyleaz: you have two factors fighting you, not enough mobo and a very poor cooling solution for an octacore, not meaning to slam your equipment bud please don't be offended.

dang it, just got ninja.gif lol

Wait so basically instead of entering the vcore you want manually it's choosing from a select increment (whether +/-)? In that case that is how I OCed my 860K before selling it so it shouldn't be a problem except if something else messes with stability.
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post #46965 of 67894
Hey guys,

I was messing around today with LLC on my Crosshair V Formula Z. Normally it is set to ultra high. So I set it to high, so now I would be working with some vdroop to stop those quick core temp spikes. I could not get it stable for nothing. So I decided to go for the gusto and try LLC set to extreme, with lower vcore. So now I am at the same voltages under load that it was for the high setting...stable and with no temperature spikes (used to jump to 66c to 68c). I would have thought that extreme LLC on my board would have shown a higher spike. I don't understand why. Any ideas why?
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And yes my chip is somewhat of a voltage DUD!
post #46966 of 67894
Finally seem to have gotten a stable 5GHz OC. Core temps went up to 68C though. Seems I need 1.536V to get IBT AVX Maximum 20 Run stable. Now I need to set my ram back to 2133MHz, put NB back to 2600MHz, etc and see if it will be stable. One question though. If I set vcore any higher than 1.53 (1.53125xxx) in the BIOS the PC will freeze when I run IBT. So for example I began stressing 5GHz with 1.524v and it failed during the test. So I upped the voltage to 1.54V and this time it froze before even one run finished. Same happened with 1.55V. So because of that I decided to try 1.53V. It seems to be the magic number as it passed.
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Hey guys,

I was messing around today with LLC on my Crosshair V Formula Z. Normally it is set to ultra high. So I set it to high, so now I would be working with some vdroop to stop those quick core temp spikes. I could not get it stable for nothing. So I decided to go for the gusto and try LLC set to extreme, with lower vcore. So now I am at the same voltages under load that it was for the high setting...stable and with no temperature spikes (used to jump to 66c to 68c). I would have thought that extreme LLC on my board would have shown a higher spike. I don't understand why. Any ideas why?
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




And yes my chip is somewhat of a voltage DUD!

Can't really explain. I find your explanation quite possible though. If High LLC sets voltage lower than what you choose in the BIOS, and Ultra-High basically matches what you set, then Extreme should technically set it higher than what you have chosen in the BIOS. With Extreme you would then be able to choose a lower vcore and then the motherboard would set the vcore somewhat higher if I am not mistaken. If the vcore is already increased at idle maybe the load vcore doesn't spike even higher because of that. I might try what you have done and set LLC to Extreme and lower vcore to see how things turn out for me

.:edit:.

Set LLC to Extreme, Vcore to 1.5V. For me Extreme LLC has a higher vboost than Ultra-High. For example with 1.5V with Extreme LLC the idle voltage is ~1.5V/1.512V. When I stress the CPU though it boosts to 1.536 and even to 1.548v for a longer time. PC also froze during IBT. I guess back to Ultra-High for me. Also no more OCing for today/tonight. PC failed to boot once after my last restart. Thankfully it's fine right now. Probably will be back at it during the later part of spring break
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Attempted to OC 200*23=4.6G.
Need to open my case or PC would directly poweroff due to CPU overheat...mad.gif


Couple things that may or may not help.

1. Better airflow inside your case, so fresh air comes in and warm air goes out. (Will help to bring cooler air in to the cpu coolers intake) Case Cooling
2.Use double sided tape or Velcro to fasten a stock cpu-fan to the back of your cpu socket. (Often lowers socket temp by 7-10C) Example
3. place a fan over your VRM's heatsinks.

If these simple mods are not enough, then you will need a case with better airflow, and or a bigger cpu cooler. Or aim for a lower OC.

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Hey guys,

I was messing around today with LLC on my Crosshair V Formula Z. Normally it is set to ultra high. So I set it to high, so now I would be working with some vdroop to stop those quick core temp spikes. I could not get it stable for nothing. So I decided to go for the gusto and try LLC set to extreme, with lower vcore. So now I am at the same voltages under load that it was for the high setting...stable and with no temperature spikes (used to jump to 66c to 68c). I would have thought that extreme LLC on my board would have shown a higher spike. I don't understand why. Any ideas why?
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




And yes my chip is somewhat of a voltage DUD!

Wow, that is very interesting to me as I am seeing very very brief temp spikes on my core temp on occasion, but I still hate seeing them in the max column. I will have to try messing around with LLC sometime soon to see if I can get the same result as you. tongue.gif
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Sigh....can't get 5GHz stable w/ 2600MHz NB (1.25V). The increase in CPU/NB Vcore obviously raises CPU temps. Not sure if the NB needs more volts or the heat increase is too much (temps didn't go over the limit) but I'll have to forget about NB OCing until I get a custom loop to better cool the CPU. For now the 5GHz CPU will suffice.
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Well 5GHz is like a nuclear reactor. Going from 4.9 to 5 is like an 8C difference in socket temps. unfortunately my board is throttling from 68C. Which means I can't really tell at this point if I can get if I can get 5 stable. If I can get my board back into its normal behavior of throttling at 75-78C then I am sure I can get 5 stable. The results I was getting for 5 @ 1. 472V was looking very positive however.
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Well 5GHz is like a nuclear reactor. Going from 4.9 to 5 is like an 8C difference in socket temps. unfortunately my board is throttling from 68C. Which means I can't really tell at this point if I can get if I can get 5 stable. If I can get my board back into its normal behavior of throttling at 75-78C then I am sure I can get 5 stable. The results I was getting for 5 @ 1. 472V was looking very positive however.

You running custom loop correct?

Last week i noticed that my socket temps were way higher than my core temp so i decided to plant a fan on the back of my board.

I still had the stock cooler that comes included with the FX 8350 so i mounted it to my side panel that i still had with the bend acrylic window, i removed the window and screwed the fan to the back of the panel and its working very well.

This is what it looks like:



Now socket temps are not much higher than my core temps and its not even that loud cos i hooked it on my fan controller so at idle or low load i turn my fans down and put my cooler to quiet mode so i can barely hear it.

Don't look at the cable management plz, i know it looks horrible but i don't have enough room to strap them down tongue.gif
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