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thats one, i need the whole kit an kabootle

IE all settings you changed

right off the bat 1.2 nb
ram 1.55
cpu/nb 1.25
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post #47102 of 67694
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thats one, i need the whole kit an kabootle

IE all settings you changed

right off the bat 1.2 nb
ram 1.55
cpu/nb 1.25

Okey doke
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Finally! 4.4 GHz. How's my stats?

 
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Man what Bios are you using? I really need to figure out why I throttle at 68C instead of 78C like it's supposed to.
Sorry I've been off the forum a few days, busy swapping out a hard drive...
I'm on the latest BIOS version (2501). I'm still sure that VRM switching frequency is a big part of your issue though, setting it to 400 lowers my throttling point quite a bit too. Not quite to 68C, but definitely below 75C. I would demonstrate but right now I would probably throttle at any settings, winter is clearly over and it's getting warm, I might need to lower that OC before either my CPU or me overheats in this room...
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Man what Bios are you using? I really need to figure out why I throttle at 68C instead of 78C like it's supposed to.
Sorry I've been off the forum a few days, busy swapping out a hard drive...
I'm on the latest BIOS version (2501). I'm still sure that VRM switching frequency is a big part of your issue though, setting it to 400 lowers my throttling point quite a bit too. Not quite to 68C, but definitely below 75C. I would demonstrate but right now I would probably throttle at any settings, winter is clearly over and it's getting warm, I might need to lower that OC before either my CPU or me overheats in this room...
I'll give it a shot and report back. At least there is SOMEONE out there who is saying the same thing I am. Throttling at 68C?that can't be right.

Most people especially on the Asus forums kinda go. "huh"

I don't think I am throttling due to VRM temps though. I'll tell you why. There are several points around the VRM section I use to extrapolate a temperature from. I measure with an infrared thermometer.

1. VRM heatsink. Never usually hotter than 50-60
2. The capacitors and chokes directly next to the VRM's under the overhang of the heatsink. Never above 80C. Generally in the low to mid 60's.
3. Digi+ drivers on the back of the board mirroring the VRM's. Never above 80C.
So I do not think my VRM section is going above 80C.
So while I will try lowering VRM switching frequency as you state. I hypothesise that it won't make a difference to my present situation. Mat best maybe gain a bit of room on the socket temps and at worst cause instability. But i doubt it is going to put the threshold back to the 78C point where it used to be at for me.
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@allistair, maybe it's current related. Did you change BIOS versions and do you have the same settings in the DIGI section that you used previously.
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I'll give it a shot and report back. At least there is SOMEONE out there who is saying the same thing I am. Throttling at 68C?that can't be right.

Most people especially on the Asus forums kinda go. "huh"

I don't think I am throttling due to VRM temps though. I'll tell you why. There are several points around the VRM section I use to extrapolate a temperature from. I measure with an infrared thermometer.

1. VRM heatsink. Never usually hotter than 50-60
2. The capacitors and chokes directly next to the VRM's under the overhang of the heatsink. Never above 80C. Generally in the low to mid 60's.
3. Digi+ drivers on the back of the board mirroring the VRM's. Never above 80C.
So I do not think my VRM section is going above 80C.
So while I will try lowering VRM switching frequency as you state. I hypothesise that it won't make a difference to my present situation. Mat best maybe gain a bit of room on the socket temps and at worst cause instability. But i doubt it is going to put the threshold back to the 78C point where it used to be at for me.
Did some testing now at 4.8GHz @ 1.475v.
My stable OC:
VRM Switching Frequency: Auto, some changes in other settings as well, but they didn't really make a difference in this case.

Maxed out @ 76C socket (ignore the high core temp, I forgot to open my window before starting and temps skyrocketed on the first run doh.gif)
Then changed the Switching Frequency to 400:

Aand here comes throttling @ 74C socket...
Then matched all the rest of the settings to yours, but it made zero difference.
Lowered Switching Frequency to 350:

A little better, but still throttling. And from what I remember from tweaking my 4.9GHz setting late last year, all manual settings I tried for the VRM Switching Frequency either gave me instability or throttling. Idk why but auto is the only setting that works for me.
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@allistair, maybe it's current related. Did you change BIOS versions and do you have the same settings in the DIGI section that you used previously.
You might have a point there. One of the many settings I changed was CPU Power Thermal Control. I used to run it at 130 but upped to 151 to match Alastair, but that made absolutely no difference, so I began to wonder if the throttling was related to something other than thermals.
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I'll give it a shot and report back. At least there is SOMEONE out there who is saying the same thing I am. Throttling at 68C?that can't be right.

Most people especially on the Asus forums kinda go. "huh"

I don't think I am throttling due to VRM temps though. I'll tell you why. There are several points around the VRM section I use to extrapolate a temperature from. I measure with an infrared thermometer.

1. VRM heatsink. Never usually hotter than 50-60
2. The capacitors and chokes directly next to the VRM's under the overhang of the heatsink. Never above 80C. Generally in the low to mid 60's.
3. Digi+ drivers on the back of the board mirroring the VRM's. Never above 80C.
So I do not think my VRM section is going above 80C.
So while I will try lowering VRM switching frequency as you state. I hypothesise that it won't make a difference to my present situation. Mat best maybe gain a bit of room on the socket temps and at worst cause instability. But i doubt it is going to put the threshold back to the 78C point where it used to be at for me.
Did some testing now at 4.8GHz @ 1.475v.
My stable OC:
VRM Switching Frequency: Auto, some changes in other settings as well, but they didn't really make a difference in this case.

Maxed out @ 76C socket (ignore the high core temp, I forgot to open my window before starting and temps skyrocketed on the first run doh.gif)
Then changed the Switching Frequency to 400:

Aand here comes throttling @ 74C socket...
Then matched all the rest of the settings to yours, but it made zero difference.
Lowered Switching Frequency to 350:

A little better, but still throttling. And from what I remember from tweaking my 4.9GHz setting late last year, all manual settings I tried for the VRM Switching Frequency either gave me instability or throttling. Idk why but auto is the only setting that works for me.
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@allistair, maybe it's current related. Did you change BIOS versions and do you have the same settings in the DIGI section that you used previously.
You might have a point there. One of the many settings I changed was CPU Power Thermal Control. I used to run it at 130 but upped to 151 to match Alastair, but that made absolutely no difference, so I began to wonder if the throttling was related to something other than thermals.
And here I am posting saying that I think you are right. I have been playing with 4.9GHz. Ran for 10runs at 72C socket with the switching frequency at 300. Set it to 400 and the throttling comes in at run 3 the SECOND that socket reaches 72C. Now. What difference does switching frequency have on an OC?
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I can answer my own question it seems. A higher VRM switching frequency delivers cleaner power to the CPU. So supposedly a higher setting is better. But the VRM's get hotter. Guess it's time for some extreme thermal pads.
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I can answer my own question it seems. A higher VRM switching frequency delivers cleaner power to the CPU. So supposedly a higher setting is better. But the VRM's get hotter. Guess it's time for some extreme thermal pads.


surely it would be better just to buy a saberkitty lol

with all the effort u r doing on that motherboard would it be just better digging a little deeper in your pockets
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