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8300, with 2 day shipping and tax.... $111 ORDERED!!!! cheers.gif


Tonight, I'll drink a green beer (or 6), and ponder on what could be..... damn I'm excited.... to get a 3 year old $100 CPU lachen.gif

Congrats! Doesn't matter when it was launched, it's new anyway! And as long as it fits your needs, who cares... Enjoy your new CPU! You are lucky to have them. Here there is no shop that sells OEM 83xx.
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Congrats! Doesn't matter when it was launched, it's new anyway! And as long as it fits your needs, who cares... Enjoy your new CPU! You are lucky to have them. Here there is no shop that sells OEM 83xx.

Update....


I just recieved an email saying my chip qaulified for the $30 rebate!!!

That means I just got the 8300 for $81 WITH shipping!!!

That's $157 guys..... for the new board and the CPU.

I am friggin floored right now! thumb.gif

UPDATE NUMBER 2:
Have a craigslist buyer paying $150 for my 1090T and motherboard this week....

WUT DAT MEAN???

8 core vishera and brand new 8+2 motherboard for $7....
Yes, you read correct.... $7 thumbsupsmiley.png

I sure am glad to be part of OCN!
Many of you were a big help in my motherboard/CPU hunt..... but now I also have you guys to turn to for help when it comes time to OC the dog poop out of this thing!! tongue.gif

Thanks peeps!
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Update....


I just recieved an email saying my chip qaulified for the $30 rebate!!!

That means I just got the 8300 for $81 WITH shipping!!!

That's $157 guys..... for the new board and the CPU.

I am friggin floored right now! thumb.gif

WOOT!
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Update....


I just recieved an email saying my chip qaulified for the $30 rebate!!!

That means I just got the 8300 for $81 WITH shipping!!!

That's $157 guys..... for the new board and the CPU.

I am friggin floored right now! thumb.gif

UPDATE NUMBER 2:
Have a craigslist buyer paying $150 for my 1090T and motherboard this week....

WUT DAT MEAN???

8 core vishera and brand new 8+2 motherboard for $7....
Yes, you read correct.... $7 thumbsupsmiley.png

Wow, that's ridiculous... That's 76 euros for an 8300. At the price here you find the 860K... You are so lucky to have rebates, regular discounts in Newegg, combo deals, etc. Here the only offers are RMAed stuff. biggrin.gif Once every 6 months they put a "super offer" of "free shipping for purchases over 100 euros" and that's cause for celebration. biggrin.gif Well, except for Amazon, that for some stuff puts free shipping over 19 euros, with a horrible courier, but for computer stuff has everything overpriced compared to dedicated computer e-shops, so it becomes moot point.
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Wow, that's ridiculous... That's 76 euros for an 8300. At the price here you find the 860K... You are so lucky to have rebates, regular discounts in Newegg, combo deals, etc. Here the only offers are RMAed stuff. biggrin.gif Once every 6 months they put a "super offer" of "free shipping for purchases over 100 euros" and that's cause for celebration. biggrin.gif Well, except for Amazon, that for some stuff puts free shipping over 19 euros, with a horrible courier, but for computer stuff has everything overpriced compared to dedicated computer e-shops, so it becomes moot point.

I hear a lot of PC hardware woes from many of the people on here from across the pond, especially with video cards.

Why is pricing higher, and availability so limited on the other side of the globe?
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I hear a lot of PC hardware woes from many of the people on here from across the pond, especially with video cards.

Why is pricing higher, and availability so limited on the other side of the globe?

My guess is VAT + euro's value dropping + smaller market + different transportation costs depending on the country's location. The US has a huge market, so vendors can rely on scale economy to sell cheaper and maximize their profits through high volumes of sales. When the market is smaller, vendors don't do rebates, don't do combo deals, they try to squeeze more from less customers... Plus, is appears that in euroland, prices on computer staff depends on the exchange rate with the $. In some particular shops, i have watched daily variations in prices, obviously done automatically, according to the daily exchange rate with the $. Now that the euro has fallen, this has become more obvious than ever. All prices are up. In sub-100 stuff, i see a +10 euro spike, in 100+euro stuff a +15 euro spike. Draghi is printing money essentially, so, from its all time high at 1,40 to the dollar, the euro is now a bit above parity. Medium price for an 8320 is now 145-150 euros. I got mine last year at 120-125 euros.
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My guess is VAT + euro's value dropping + smaller market + different transportation costs depending on the country's location. The US has a huge market, so vendors can rely to scale economy on sell cheaper and maximize their profits through high volumes of sales. When the market is smaller, vendors don't do rebates, don't do combo deals, they try to squeeze more from less customers... Plus, is appears that in euroland, prices on computer staff depends on the exchance rate with the $. In some particular shops, i have watched daily variances in prices, obviously done automatically, according to the daily exchange rate with the $. Now that the euro has fallen, this has become more obvious than ever. All prices are up. In sub-100 stuff, i see a +10 euro spike, in 100+euro stuff a +15 euro spike. Draghi is printing money essentially, so, from its all time high at 1,40 to the dollar, the euro is now a bit above parity. Medium price for an 8320 is now 145-150 euros. I got mine last year at 120-125 euros.

Makes sense to me....

On another note, I am quite shocked I got the deal I did today, because the damn 8350 is back up to $180 on new now!! rolleyes.gif

I'll make sure I do my research when I go to get this thing clocked up, so I'm not asking everyone a dozen of the same questions we get on here over and over all the time anyways, but I have zero experience with this board I have coming, and very little with piledriver. Though I have spent some time clocking this 6200 bulldozer on my work box. Sorry boss.... biggrin.gif
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Makes sense to me....

On another note, I am quite shocked I got the deal I did today, because the damn 8350 is back up to $180 on new now!! rolleyes.gif

I'll make sure I do my research when I go to get this thing clocked up, so I'm not asking everyone a dozen of the same questions we get on here over and over all the time anyways, but I have zero experience with this board I have coming, and very little with piledriver. Though I have spent some time clocking this 6200 bulldozer on my work box. Sorry boss.... biggrin.gif

Look. The FX are the first CPU that even i, bothered to overclock for 24/7 use (i have both the 8320 and the 6300 at 4Ghz). Because it's so easy to overclock them and having high turbo, makes little sense to have the turbo on, while you can permanently run at turbo speeds. If i 've managed to overclock them, i am sure you will have no trouble.... biggrin.gif Well, you ll aim for a 1Ghz more than me, but then again, you are already overclocker. biggrin.gif

The 8300 for 76 euros is in deed shocking. It's ridiculous. I am just glad i hoarded spare parts when the euro was still high, because i hate the feeling that i am being robbed when i think at the prices you pay over there. Already i remember with foul taste, when i paid 65 euros for my last Corsair 8GB RAM kit. When in 2012, i was buying them for like 45 euros. Of course now they are at 75, so i guess i should consider myself lucky for having bought 40GB (5 kits) when it was still cheaper... But i still get angry, when i see a motherboard cost as much as 2 RAM sticks. Feels like someone is making a joke out of you.
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Look. The FX are the first CPU that even i, bothered to overclock for 24/7 use (i have both the 8320 and the 6300 at 4Ghz). Because it's so easy to overclock them and having high turbo, makes little sense to have the turbo on, while you can permanently run at turbo speeds. If i 've managed to overclock them, i am sure you will have no trouble.... biggrin.gif Well, you ll aim for a 1Ghz more than me, but then again, you are already overclocker. biggrin.gif

The 8300 for 76 euros is in deed shocking. It's ridiculous. I am just glad i hoarded spare parts when the euro was still high, because i hate the feeling that i am being robbed when i think at the prices you pay over there. Already i remember with foul taste, when i paid 65 euros for my last Corsair 8GB RAM kit. When in 2012, i was buying them for like 45 euros. Of course now they are at 75, so i guess i should consider myself lucky for having bought 40GB (5 kits) when it was still cheaper... But i still get angry, when i see a motherboard cost as much as 2 RAM sticks. Feels like someone is making a joke out of you.

I know exactly what you mean.

That's why I wanted to go ahead and strike on this deal before it's gone, and we see these chips stay on the high side until the end of the year....

I am pretty confident I can get a good core clock out of this thing, my biggest concern is the HT and the NB....

Two drastic difference between the thuban I am using now, and the vishera I am going to, are that:

1) Thuban performance is grealty imrpoved through NB overclocking, and is able to achieve 3GHz NB with some extra juice. The Vishera however, does not seem to benefit as much from NB increases, and also seems to have difficulty getting past 2.6GHz without some additional voltage. I really want to find out a sweet spot for the NB, a recommended voltage, and also to knopw does it scale with the CPU and RAM the way thuban does, or will the NB on the vishera get to a certain spot that it likes regardless of RAM or CPU core speed?

1) Thuban does not benefit from HT overclocking at all. And when I say at all, I literally mean that I have seen performance degradation over 2160MHz on the HT. On the other hand, I see people running their visheras with a 3GHz+ HT speed, and I am very curious as to whether or not this is done for stability with FSB scaling, or if this actually shows some performance gains? And if so, what is a good voltage/clock range for the target CPU speed of 4.6-5GHz?

I think those are my biggest curiosities right now. As far as dialing in the core and RAM speeds, that should be pretty straight forward thumb.gif
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I know exactly what you mean.

That's why I wanted to go ahead and strike on this deal before it's gone, and we see these chips stay on the high side until the end of the year....

Yeah, same here. I intend to stay to with my little bunch of AM3/AM3+ CPUs for a good while, so i am glad i have hoarded spares before the euro collapses further. The only thing i haven't hoarded is monitors. I have only 1 spare at that. biggrin.gif Otherwise i have enough stuff to go on for 20 years. biggrin.gif Besides, with Microsoft insisting in the abomination flat GUI, i can't see me upgrading Windows. I will probably become a fossil running Win7, just like there are today pensioners happily running their Windows XP, more than a decade after its launch.
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I am pretty confident I can get a good core clock out of this thing, my biggest concern is the HT and the NB....

Two drastic difference between the thuban I am using now, and the vishera I am going to, are that:

1) Thuban performance is grealty imrpoved through NB overclocking, and is able to achieve 3GHz NB with some extra juice. The Vishera however, does not seem to benefit as much from NB increases, and also seems to have difficulty getting past 2.6GHz without some additional voltage. I really want to find out a sweet spot for the NB, a recommended voltage, and also to knopw does it scale with the CPU and RAM the way thuban does, or will the NB on the vishera get to a certain spot that it likes regardless of RAM or CPU core speed?

Yeah, despite varous AIDA like benches, i remember that mdocod in this forum, had made a chart with common applications and the conclusion was that apart some special cases, the NB wasn't bringing meaningful benefits. I have searched in the past for his post, but i can't find it. Still, i am pretty sure he did it.
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