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I would suggest running it with offset only. No set starting voltage. I think it might give you the best of both worlds. Personally when I set up a system such as my HTPC that I'm going to use daily I leave all the Green stuff on as well as C&Q and overclock right from the start with offset voltages. You can get the CPU and CPU_NB vid from HWinfo so you know what your starting point is then work from there. This allows the CPU to be run more as AMD intended IMO. All I do is set windows to performance when stress testing to keep the clocks up where they should be. This may seem "wrong" to some but I don't have issues setting up a PC in this fashion.
In your case all I would disable is APM and turbo function.
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For years I wondered why people thought boards without LLC weren't worth considering, because I've been able to do pretty well without it.
After finally using the CHV-Z for a while I understand what generates that kind of thinking, they have almost DOUBLE the v-droop the GD-80 has when you don't use LLC and won't overclock for sour apples without it. IF my background had featured the CHV-Z early on, I would be understandably hesitant to buy a board without LLC in light of that fact.


Which is also why I had issues with the GD65 however you IIRC also had a bit of issues with that board too.. the problem that I saw was that the no LLC boards are almost hit or misses.. more so than ones with LLC.. IMO at least

I bought the GD65 second hand , it had a custom bios on it that the previous owner had installed on it. After about a week of messing with it, the bios wigged out and tried to set the ht link to 3000 , boot loop , boot loop etc finally RMA'd it.

I was able to get it to within 100 MHz of what the CHV-Z would do on the 8320 I had on the 480 mm loop. Irrc the CHV-Z topped it out at 4.8 ghz on prime , with the GD-65 hitting a little over 4.7 ghz. That chip had one weak core, the others would prime at over 5ghz, and of all cores to be weak, it was #2. It Benched over 5 ghz pretty easily however. .
I have since purchased a new GD 65 ( $58 at the egg wow) and got the GD 65 back from RMA - both of which haven't been powered on yet.When I get time I'll set it up with the 8370E and give it a go, I'll let you know what it is good for. The 990FX UD5 is still waiting to be played with too.

In the meantime, the CHV-Z that I sent in to be RMA'd came back , worked for a day and started messing up again. GRRRR another RMA and another $13 in shipping.

Most of my overclocking experience on non - llc equipped MSI's has been with the top tier board for the chipset, which is probably worth noting as well.
I am keen to see results with the GD-65. Especially with the newer Vishera's that do well with lower voltage.

The low VID/TDP 8 cores are a particularly good match for the top 2 MSI boards.

The temperature advantage the GD-80 has allows for some splendid results with the FX-e's http://valid.x86.fr/3jk1vz

The E series as well as the post 1429 batch number seem to be a little more sensitive to voltage/heat.
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The low VID/TDP 8 cores are a particularly good match for the top 2 MSI boards.

The temperature advantage the GD-80 has allows for some splendid results with the FX-e's http://valid.x86.fr/3jk1vz

The E series as well as the post 1429 batch number seem to be a little more sensitive to voltage/heat.

On that note, I am running a batch 1433PGS I believe...
When you say "sensitive to voltage and temps," can you elaborate?
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The low VID/TDP 8 cores are a particularly good match for the top 2 MSI boards.

The temperature advantage the GD-80 has allows for some splendid results with the FX-e's http://valid.x86.fr/3jk1vz

The E series as well as the post 1429 batch number seem to be a little more sensitive to voltage/heat.

On that note, I am running a batch 1433PGS I believe...
When you say "sensitive to voltage and temps," can you elaborate?

In a nutshell they take less volts seem to run a bit hotter for similar clocks and when they're done climbing they're done.
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The low VID/TDP 8 cores are a particularly good match for the top 2 MSI boards.

The temperature advantage the GD-80 has allows for some splendid results with the FX-e's http://valid.x86.fr/3jk1vz

The E series as well as the post 1429 batch number seem to be a little more sensitive to voltage/heat.

On that note, I am running a batch 1433PGS I believe...
When you say "sensitive to voltage and temps," can you elaborate?

In a nutshell they take less volts seem to run a bit hotter for similar clocks and when they're done climbing they're done.

Near perfect description of my experiences with them. thumb.gif
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I would suggest running it with offset only. No set starting voltage. I think it might give you the best of both worlds. Personally when I set up a system such as my HTPC that I'm going to use daily I leave all the Green stuff on as well as C&Q and overclock right from the start with offset voltages. You can get the CPU and CPU_NB vid from HWinfo so you know what your starting point is then work from there. This allows the CPU to be run more as AMD intended IMO. All I do is set windows to performance when stress testing to keep the clocks up where they should be. This may seem "wrong" to some but I don't have issues setting up a PC in this fashion.
In your case all I would disable is APM and turbo function.

Considering this thing will run 24/7 and mainly be used for netlfix and Microsoft office all day (the wife likes Netflix, the kids like Office?? lachen.gif ), the only time it really needs to show it's butt is when I'm running games, or up late drinking and wanting to pound on something ( even more lachen.gif ). I think I will try stock volts, and use an offset to get the 4.6Ghz for gaming.

Hell, with that logic, I may be able to snag that 4.8GHz out of it during that time only...
I ran BF4 for over an hour and a half at 4.8 with not a single issue, and that was with 1.388v reporting in HWinfo.
That was with GPU and CPU overclocked, and the GPU pegged the entire time.

I have read a lot of people claim that BF4 is the true stability test for any machine, lol.
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Near perfect description of my experiences with them. thumb.gif

Well, I have not had another to compare this one to, but what I would say is....

I read TONS of overclocking information on vishera prior to this build, and will say that I have found my temps to be higher than everyone else with similar cooling, my voltage is a lot lower, and my overall speed has yet to be determined, though I could tell that after 4.8GHz, for any kind of benchmarking, going from 1.4-1.5 was seeming to give me nothing, but I put little stock in that result given the board used....
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Well, I have not had another to compare this one to, but what I would say is....

I read TONS of overclocking information on vishera prior to this build, and will say that I have found my temps to be higher than everyone else with similar cooling, my voltage is a lot lower, and my overall speed has yet to be determined, though I could tell that after 4.8GHz, for any kind of benchmarking, going from 1.4-1.5 was seeming to give me nothing, but I put little stock in that result given the board used....
my asrock killer board ran about 8 to 10.degrees higher than my sabertooth at same clocks and similar voltages on the same loop...even if you attribute 3c to the remount (looked good when I took it off) that's still 5 to 7c...I attribute it to cleaner power delivery and better vrm sinks (synonymous)...also less of a brute force approach to overclocking...my killer offset voltages made it run a lot hotter up to 10c higher...and the voltages were never really stable...I tried using offsets to get past the 1.55 max the board had...others have used on the killer and fared better but not this guy
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my asrock killer board ran about 8 to 10.degrees higher than my sabertooth at same clocks and similar voltages on the same loop...even if you attribute 3c to the remount (looked good when I took it off) that's still 5 to 7c...I attribute it to cleaner power delivery and better vrm sinks (synonymous)...also less of a brute force approach to overclocking...my killer offset voltages made it run a lot hotter up to 10c higher...and the voltages were never really stable...I tried using offsets to get past the 1.55 max the board had...others have used on the killer and fared better but not this guy

Dude, I haven't even tried 1.5v yet.... the friggin socket is hitting 90c in prime after 30 minutes...

I think a drill, and one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Scythe-Slip-Stream-120mm-SY1212SL12L/dp/B002CYPWTG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427224432&sr=1-1&keywords=low+profile+120mm+fan
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Well, I have not had another to compare this one to, but what I would say is....

I read TONS of overclocking information on vishera prior to this build, and will say that I have found my temps to be higher than everyone else with similar cooling, my voltage is a lot lower, and my overall speed has yet to be determined, though I could tell that after 4.8GHz, for any kind of benchmarking, going from 1.4-1.5 was seeming to give me nothing, but I put little stock in that result given the board used....
That's exactly my experience too. Temps higher than advertised and vcore needed lower than advertised.
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