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I can vouch for the latter kit (2 x 8). Mine will run up to 2400MHz with a simple voltage change. Real nice kit thumb.gif

I thought so, 4 sticks will put more stress to the IMC I've heard but i have no experience with this. My sticks clock higher than 2400mhz, with my highest physics score i was running them at 2500, no idea if they were stable but it gave me a nice benchmark score.
As a matter a fact, 2400 sticks are cheaper than 1866 sticks over here. http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/listing.html?cmd=change&lk=9330&tk=7&navId=709&filter_5=&filter_4=DIMM&filter_3=2+st.&filter_2=16+GB&filter_1=G.Skill

http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/listing.html?cmd=change&lk=9334&tk=7&navId=708&filter_5=&filter_4=DIMM&filter_3=2+st.&filter_2=16+GB&filter_1=G.Skill
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I can vouch for the latter kit (2 x 8). Mine will run up to 2400MHz with a simple voltage change. Real nice kit thumb.gif

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Despite what has been said about timings vs speed, you will still benefit from higher bandwidth of faster sticks (2400).

In benchmarks i see a nice performance boost but in real live performance i didn't see much gain to be honest, maybe i didn't test it correctly so i am going to test it again.
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Maybe i am noob,but i dont see point to go over 1866mhz CL9 or CL10.
Even between 1600 and 1866 are small gains.
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Maybe i am noob,but i dont see point to go over 1866mhz CL9 or CL10.
Even between 1600 and 1866 are small gains.

I agree on that, 1866mhz seems to be the sweet spot and anything beyond that isn't really necessary. If you use Adobe or some other high demanding application you can see a slight difference but even than its negligible.

Some games do benefit from faster ram according to some people but i have not seen one FPS more going from 1866 to 2400mhz ram. Maybe it depends on what system you are using.
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You will do well to do that. RAM and CPU are the most consistent computer parts. The CPU almost never breaks, the RAM when it breaks it does so in a clear manner that is repeatable. When you see RAM inconsistencies, it's almost always the motherboard. I 've had 1 case of brand new motherboard (s939), that wouldn't recognize all the RAM and that would randomly not boot. The motherboard had been kept inactive for years, until i gave it away for free to a friend. It seemed that it "warmed up" and started booting normally, but still it wouldn't recognize all the RAM. But he was happy with it. "Solid as a rock", he was saying. Then he had to go away for few months for work. He returned to his house and the PC wouldn't boot at all. My theory: The motherboard put in storage for years (i had kept it as spare), had suffered some damage to the capacitors that wouldn't fully charge anymore. Some RAM related cap was probably goner too and this is why it wouldn't recognize all RAM. The caps were somewhat rehabilitated when he started using the mobo again, but the new period of absence gave the death blow to 1 or more crucial caps needed to boot. Solid capacitors are supposed to have longer shelf life, but bottom line is, motherboards don't like sitting idle...

Now you're scaring me! The GD80 has been my daily driver while the Sabertooth has been sitting in its box. Actually, methinks the GD80 has been slowly failing for 6 months and I put it on the old abused 8350.

Last November I pulled the GD80 and ran the Saber to 4.823 ghz. Put the GD80 in and got 4.791 ghz 20 runs of IBT VH stable. Some time later I tried it again and it failed. Had to drop back to 4.76 ghz. That is what got me going on getting a new cpu, the 8370. It went right to 4.9 ghz on multi but wouldn't do fsb at all. Now this Saber is running at 236 fsb. So, it's time to send an email off to MSI.
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Well... a little bit of an update....

4.7GHz on 1.425v (1.36v under load)
204 x 23
2450 NB/2650 HT
RAM is at ~ 2176 10-11-11-29-40

Been running great on this 120mm rad as long as I don't do more than 10 IBT's... devil.gif

240mm LEPA cooler and low pro socket fan arriving tomorrow.

I'm still fairly certain that this board's power limitations won't let me get past 4.8-4.9, but even at those speeds, this thing do great, and I am certain I am at the mercy of the board itself.

This little 8300 is just a bang up chip for $99 thumb.gif
It's essentially the same thing as an 8370E for half the price..... even the base/turbo clocks are almost identical.
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Maybe i am noob,but i dont see point to go over 1866mhz CL9 or CL10.
Even between 1600 and 1866 are small gains.

I agree on that, 1866mhz seems to be the sweet spot and anything beyond that isn't really necessary. If you use Adobe or some other high demanding application you can see a slight difference but even than its negligible.

Some games do benefit from faster ram according to some people but i have not seen one FPS more going from 1866 to 2400mhz ram. Maybe it depends on what system you are using.

You have to be mindful of the tertiary settings when comparing ram, they can make a difference - people tend to leave them in auto and don't have much of an idea what they do when the system sets itself up to post.

I think I've compared about a dozen sets of ram on my CHV-Z rig ( it's the most capable ram overclocking board I have ) and what has given the best performance according to AIDA 64 was the Kingston beasts set at CL 12 - 2600 mhz 1T. The kits have run from CL6 1600 mhz to CL 10 2400mhz with cl 7 1800 mhz, cl 9 2133 in between.
Everyone's situation is a little different , just have to tinker with what you have until you find out how to get the most out of it.
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Speaking of ram, there is something really strange going on with mine. There is nothing wrong with it, but it keeps getting switched from single channel to dual channel and not all of it is being used anyway.

This morning it was single channel and only 3gb of the 16gb was being used. Now it is dual channel but only 7.95gb is being used. I have been looking all over win8.1 and can't find any reason for this to be happening. It is set to performance mode so that is not it.

This all started when the 8370 was installed. It seems to have a weak IMC but this is ridiculous. It won't fsb oc at all and that is the strength of the Sabertooth, which I want to install soon.

It so is the board when that happens.. but your later post says that any way.. most of the time its dust in the DIMM or something isn't stable on the OC for the board itself not the chip

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You have to be mindful of the tertiary settings when comparing ram, they can make a difference - people tend to leave them in auto and don't have much of an idea what they do when the system sets itself up to post.

I think I've compared about a dozen sets of ram on my CHV-Z rig ( it's the most capable ram overclocking board I have ) and what has given the best performance according to AIDA 64 was the Kingston beasts set at CL 12 - 2600 mhz 1T. The kits have run from CL6 1600 mhz to CL 10 2400mhz with cl 7 1800 mhz, cl 9 2133 in between.
Everyone's situation is a little different , just have to tinker with what you have until you find out how to get the most out of it.

For example if you buy patriots lol they don't wanna clock worth a crap tongue.gif
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Maybe i am noob,but i dont see point to go over 1866mhz CL9 or CL10.
Even between 1600 and 1866 are small gains.

When I was looking at Trident-X kits, the 2400 kit was almost the same price as the slower kits, so to me it was a clear choice to get the 2400 kit.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231623 1866-$144.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231589 2400-$149.99
Edited by pshootr - 3/29/15 at 11:17am
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You have to be mindful of the tertiary settings when comparing ram, they can make a difference - people tend to leave them in auto and don't have much of an idea what they do when the system sets itself up to post.

I think I've compared about a dozen sets of ram on my CHV-Z rig ( it's the most capable ram overclocking board I have ) and what has given the best performance according to AIDA 64 was the Kingston beasts set at CL 12 - 2600 mhz 1T. The kits have run from CL6 1600 mhz to CL 10 2400mhz with cl 7 1800 mhz, cl 9 2133 in between.
Everyone's situation is a little different , just have to tinker with what you have until you find out how to get the most out of it.

Yeah well, that's why i bought the best 8gb 1866mhz kit i could find with the tightest timings so i didn't have to tinker with it. I did set it to 1T instead of the stock 2T but the gain is negligible.

I did gain some points in benchmarks tho but than again, benchmarks mostly show higher scores with overclocks but they do not translate in to real world performance gains.

The best performance gain i saw was 2FPS more from 1866 to 2400mhz but that can be the margin of error as well. I did try to see if i could find a difference in Adobe but the difference is negligible.

If 2400mhz ram is more expensive than 1866mhz its not worth the extra money but in my case 2400mhz 16gb kit is cheaper for some reason than the 1866mhz 16gb kit, so i would go with the 2400 only because its cheaper.
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It so is the board when that happens.. but your later post says that any way.. most of the time its dust in the DIMM or something isn't stable on the OC for the board itself not the chip
For example if you buy patriots lol they don't wanna clock worth a crap tongue.gif
I find it ironic that patriot memory doesn't offer much "freedom" in the clocking smile.gif
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