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You have to be mindful of the tertiary settings when comparing ram, they can make a difference - people tend to leave them in auto and don't have much of an idea what they do when the system sets itself up to post.

I think I've compared about a dozen sets of ram on my CHV-Z rig ( it's the most capable ram overclocking board I have ) and what has given the best performance according to AIDA 64 was the Kingston beasts set at CL 12 - 2600 mhz 1T. The kits have run from CL6 1600 mhz to CL 10 2400mhz with cl 7 1800 mhz, cl 9 2133 in between.
Everyone's situation is a little different , just have to tinker with what you have until you find out how to get the most out of it.
that's interesting my ripjaws kit is at 2133 cl9-11-11-31-45 at 1.65 but I haven't even tried any other timings....need a fresh Windows install so I need to buy a large usb drive since I don't have optical bays...though I'm gonna buy an external dvd drive just to have if I need it...but I would like to see what I can get out of the kit after that...this.windows install has been through 2 mobos and three video cards so...its due time...thought about going to the windows 10 preview but don't know if that's something I wanna "beta test" enough things still don't work 100 percent on w7 and w8 lol
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Guys. What are your typical firestrike physics scores with a good overclock? Strangest thing..... I'm doing as good or better than average in every bench I run,except firestrike, where I get a pitiful 8700 points physics at 4.7ghz?!? My x6 scored that..... Everything else looks great though.... Including the combined....(for an fx anyways :/ )

Also, what version of aida64 am I supposed to get to bench the RAM properly?
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You have to be mindful of the tertiary settings when comparing ram, they can make a difference - people tend to leave them in auto and don't have much of an idea what they do when the system sets itself up to post.

I think I've compared about a dozen sets of ram on my CHV-Z rig ( it's the most capable ram overclocking board I have ) and what has given the best performance according to AIDA 64 was the Kingston beasts set at CL 12 - 2600 mhz 1T. The kits have run from CL6 1600 mhz to CL 10 2400mhz with cl 7 1800 mhz, cl 9 2133 in between.
Everyone's situation is a little different , just have to tinker with what you have until you find out how to get the most out of it.

Yeah well, that's why i bought the best 8gb 1866mhz kit i could find with the tightest timings so i didn't have to tinker with it. I did set it to 1T instead of the stock 2T but the gain is negligible.

I did gain some points in benchmarks tho but than again, benchmarks mostly show higher scores with overclocks but they do not translate in to real world performance gains.

The best performance gain i saw was 2FPS more from 1866 to 2400mhz but that can be the margin of error as well. I did try to see if i could find a difference in Adobe but the difference is negligible.

If 2400mhz ram is more expensive than 1866mhz its not worth the extra money but in my case 2400mhz 16gb kit is cheaper for some reason than the 1866mhz 16gb kit, so i would go with the 2400 only because its cheaper.

when these chips were released, 2400 mhz ram was too expensive. now the price is negligible.

Gskill compbatibilty is pretty top notch, BUT i've found that if the Ram isn't on the QVL, 9 out of 10 times it will need tertiary timing tweaks to find peak performance

I've also found very few games that see a large benefit from faster ram (bf4, crysis 3 and SC)

although, if a certain game prefers ram caching over drive caching for its temp files, it will result in a better playing experience due to a faster response on certain aspects of the game. (load skill trays etc)

the most effective use of faster memory i've found is in a production style environment, my DAW utilizes the faster memory real well. This is a use-case scenario and not something most can tangibly see unless it is important to your work flow.

Dynamic audio mixing with dynamic delays just pounds with fast tight memory.

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Guys. What are your typical firestrike physics scores with a good overclock? Strangest thing..... I'm doing as good or better than average in every bench I run,except firestrike, where I get a pitiful 8700 points physics at 4.7ghz?!? My x6 scored that..... Everything else looks great though.... Including the combined....(for an fx anyways :/ )

Also, what version of aida64 am I supposed to get to bench the RAM properly?

Paid version of Aida, free version blanks out certain scores.

8700 @ 4.7 is on the low end in my experience
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when these chips were released, 2400 mhz ram was too expensive. now the price is negligible.

Gskill compbatibilty is pretty top notch, BUT i've found that if the Ram isn't on the QVL, 9 out of 10 times it will need tertiary timing tweaks to find peak performance

I've also found very few games that see a large benefit from faster ram (bf4, crysis 3 and SC)

although, if a certain game prefers ram caching over drive caching for its temp files, it will result in a better playing experience due to a faster response on certain aspects of the game. (load skill trays etc)

the most effective use of faster memory i've found is in a production style environment, my DAW utilizes the faster memory real well. This is a use-case scenario and not something most can tangibly see unless it is important to your work flow.

Dynamic audio mixing with dynamic delays just pounds with fast tight memory.
Paid version of Aida, free version blanks out certain scores.

8700 @ 4.7 is on the low end in my experience
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I've got the same gpu and combined score, but a much lower physics no clue why...
I understand it's the paid version of aida64, but I downloaded the free version of extreme,and it just looks like Everest? You guys all have that nice looking grey/blue proprietary benchmark-like thing...
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Running Firestrike for the first time. I have MSI Afterburner + Rivatuner on and at most I only see 4 threads with double digit usage percentage and most of the times its about 3 cores with 10-22% and sometimes 30.

Wait that's only on the first 2 or 3 tests.

My score seems a bit low also when comparing to FlailScHLAMP's numbers for 4.7GHz. Mine was at 4.9GHz

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6436475
Edited by xKrNMBoYx - 3/29/15 at 5:55pm
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Running Firestrike for the first time. I have MSI Afterburner + Rivatuner on and at most I only see 4 threads with double digit usage percentage and most of the times its about 3 cores with 10-22% and sometimes 30.

Wait that's only on the first 2 or 3 tests.

My score seems a bit low also when comparing to FlailScHLAMP's numbers for 4.7GHz. Mine was at 4.9GHz

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6436475

OC your GPU

But then, you will need water.

And you will need larger rads if you OC your CPU and the GPU at once.

Then go for the PT Bios. And TRIXXX

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4315606
Edited by mus1mus - 3/29/15 at 6:58pm
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OC your GPU

But then, you will need water.

And you will need larger rads if you OC your CPU and the GPU at once.

Then go for the PT Bios. And TRIXXX

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4315606

Well thanks. I wasn't really worried about GPU scores. It was just that others 4.7GHz 8-Core scores were higher or similar to mine at 4.9GHz. As far as GPU I will OC eventually but before I do that I need an upgrade to my PSU (630W CM Silent M2 Pro) and then I have to either begin my custom loop or use a clc with NZXT G10 or Corsair HG10. Just fixed a overscan/underscan issue with my native 1080P resolution in games/3dmark full screen. I can finally play games at 1080p without borders (no resolution sacrifice, or no performance sacrifice going with higher resolution with VSR). I'll try again soon.
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Well thanks. I wasn't really worried about GPU scores. It was just that others 4.7GHz 8-Core scores were higher or similar to mine at 4.9GHz. As far as GPU I will OC eventually but before I do that I need an upgrade to my PSU (630W CM Silent M2 Pro) and then I have to either begin my custom loop or use a clc with NZXT G10 or Corsair HG10. Just fixed a overscan/underscan issue with my native 1080P resolution in games/3dmark full screen. I can finally play games at 1080p without borders (no resolution sacrifice, or no performance sacrifice going with higher resolution with VSR). I'll try again soon.

Which score are you looking at?

Physics is the only one that heavily relies to the CPU. But is also affected by the GPU a bit. Low scores on stock GPU. Combined is both.

Dnt worry, @cssorkinman scores really well than most. smile.gif
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Which score are you looking at?

Physics is the only one that heavily relies to the CPU. But is also affected by the GPU a bit. Low scores on stock GPU. Combined is both.

Dnt worry, @cssorkinman scores really well than most. smile.gif

Yeah physics score. Thanks for explaining though that gpu matters a bit.
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