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990FXA-UD3 isn't usually a 5GHz contender. The older revisions as far as I am aware had overheating VRM problems and then the newer rev.4 was hardlocked in the BIOs to throttle on power draw. From what I have observed around, most UD3's also max out in the 4.8GHz region. I am unsure of the 990XA. I think this is only the second time I have heard about it. It is funny how all these new AM3+ boards are popping up lately. Think the board manufacturers know something we don't?

It does seem like something may be moving on the lower end section... maybe a newer line of CPUs for the AM3+ socket? It's higly unlikely, but it's not impossible.

The problem is, I was interested in this new Gigabyte 990XA-UD3 R5, which doesn't look like a bad overclocker to me. Of course I'm still pointing to the 5 GHZ result, which seems impossible with any ASUS 970 && Most of 990FX boards.
 
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I'm guessing they are putting a lot of power limitations on boards now to limit the amount of RMA's. rolleyes.gif

Seems like if you put these things under extreme load for too long (even some of the Gigabyte boards with 8+2 power phase) they will eventually throttle the CPU down to 1400MHz.
I have read several cases of this on other forums.... I even have some PM's coming in from people experiencing the issue on ASRock, MSI, and Gigabyte boards... Most of them reached out to me after reading my motherboard review.

I also found out recently that my ASRock is set to throttle after 45 minutes of extreme load if temps exceed 70c on the socket or VRM. That means prime 95 testing is out of the question with higher voltage and overclocks, even if the CPU is stable enough to get through it.... Gaming for HOURS yesterday proved to be no problem at all. I even ran some BF4 at 720P to really load the chip down. Saw usage in the mid 90 percentile, and the game was completely stable. The socket never broke 67c, and the CPU never broke 57c with 1.45v @ 4.8GHz.

I can then go and run IBT on very high and 7-8 passes in, the socket is 90c, and the CPU is 69c. Even with throttling disabled in the BIOS, the chip will downclock to 1400 on each core one at a time in what appears to be a cooling cycle. This happens when one of two things occurs (though they usually occur together).
The CPU hits 71c, and the socket hits 91c.

It is good to know though, that Asus has left it's top tier boards (Saber and Crosshair) well enough alone, but I have read about tons of failures on those boards....
I guess they just charge a high enough premium for those things to make up for the losses on the RMA's. Not to mention, the amount of those boards they sale probably skews the fail rate numbers to be seemingly higher than other brands, when it's likely similar, or possibly even lower.

There's a reason why ANYONE, whether they own one or not, will tell you that the lowest board to consider when chasing 5GHz is the Sabertooth, and to get the CHZ if you have the dough.

In the mean time....

I have the 240mm AquaChanger arriving today, as well as a low pro 120 to cool my socket with.... Going to be banging, cutting, and drilling for a bit......

Then REAL testing begins TONIGHT!!! thumb.gif
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I'm not a huge fan of the custom water loops, and from what I've read here the CLCs aren't much better than something like the DH15. I got the Storm Trooper case specifically for these giant air coolers thumb.gif But I will see what happens I guess. I'll aim for 4.5, and worst case I test my wife's 8350 and if it does better then I secretly swap it out with mine devil.gif She only plays WoW and Minecraft and indie games anyway. I may also need to work more on case airflow... Been testing things out over the past month and have dropped the socket temp from 56 to 52. This case un-modded doesn't have great airflow through the upper section sadly.

Again, thanks for the advice and help! cheers.gif

Any recommendations on a good motherboard for the 8350? Preferable something not too pricey, but decent with overclocking. I'd like to try to hit 5gz on air! (I'll modify my mini fridge to push cold air into the case if I have to!) thumb.gif

Don't let these people rain on your parade.5ghz on air is possible with the right equipment. These people have water on the brain and will try to dissuade you. I'm about the only airhead that passes through here and I say 5 on air is too possible.

I recently picked up an 8370 and am still seeing what it will do. Got it to 4.9 ghz on a GD80 multi only and the bios or something went wonky and I could go no farther.

So I put in the Sabertooth and am learning how to OC it. It is running at 4.9 ghz right now and I did some tinkering last night and touched 5 but couldn't get it stable. Will try again later after I learn how to make the bios do what I want it to do. Proof.



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Running Firestrike for the first time. I have MSI Afterburner + Rivatuner on and at most I only see 4 threads with double digit usage percentage and most of the times its about 3 cores with 10-22% and sometimes 30.

Wait that's only on the first 2 or 3 tests.

My score seems a bit low also when comparing to FlailScHLAMP's numbers for 4.7GHz. Mine was at 4.9GHz

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6436475

To be fair CSSOriken, Johan, and myself put up some impressive sub 5ghz numbers.
@4.84ghz! (Click to show)
once Around 5ghz more ppl chip in scores lol
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Running Firestrike for the first time. I have MSI Afterburner + Rivatuner on and at most I only see 4 threads with double digit usage percentage and most of the times its about 3 cores with 10-22% and sometimes 30.

Wait that's only on the first 2 or 3 tests.

My score seems a bit low also when comparing to FlailScHLAMP's numbers for 4.7GHz. Mine was at 4.9GHz

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6436475

OC your GPU

But then, you will need water.

And you will need larger rads if you OC your CPU and the GPU at once.

Then go for the PT Bios. And TRIXXX

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4315606

does we haz challenger?

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3797981 wave2.gif

Maybe we haz challenger wink.gif

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4452762

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4031034

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Has anyone seen the new Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 R5. I wonder if the only difference between it and the older versions is the specialist on board audio.
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Don't let these people rain on your parade.5ghz on air is possible with the right equipment. These people have water on the brain and will try to dissuade you. I'm about the only airhead that passes through here and I say 5 on air is too possible. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I recently picked up an 8370 and am still seeing what it will do. Got it to 4.9 ghz on a GD80 multi only and the bios or something went wonky and I could go no farther.

So I put in the Sabertooth and am learning how to OC it. It is running at 4.9 ghz right now and I did some tinkering last night and touched 5 but couldn't get it stable. Will try again later after I learn how to make the bios do what I want it to do. Proof.


They said bumblebees couldn't fly too. I gotta paint some gold stripes on this case.

5ghz on air??

sure u might fluke it and hit it but u cant stress 5ghz on air

id like to see u do it to prove me wrong

edit, i suppose u might hit it witht he new chips that require less voltage for 5ghz
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Has anyone seen the new Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 R5. I wonder if the only difference between it and the older versions is the specialist on board audio.

It's 990XA, it has a 990X chipset as far as I know.

It was also what I was asking, that mobo does look kinda nice.
 
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Has anyone seen the new Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 R5. I wonder if the only difference between it and the older versions is the specialist on board audio.

It's 990XA, it has a 990X chipset as far as I know.

It was also what I was asking, that mobo does look kinda nice.
NO there is a new, 990FX UD5 available too. I ain't interested in no 990X chipset. I want the full fat, 990FX.
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NO there is a new, 990FX UD5 available too. I ain't interested in no 990X chipset. I want the full fat, 990FX.

Oh wow, tom's hardware mentioned only the 990X UD3 motherboard, now that 990FX UD5 R5 sure looks like a really nice board there.
 
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I'm beginning to see that the newer "low voltage chips" are only lower voltage up until 4.7-4.8, and after that they need just as much coercing as the 125w models....rolleyes.gif
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Daddy's Gamer
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Son's Gamer
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PROJECT WIFEY
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-9590 @ 5GHz Asus 990FX Sabertooth Rev 2.0 MSI Gaming 390X G. Skill Trident X 4x4GB  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA 3  LEPA 240AC Windows 10 x64 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 55UB8500 55" 4K 3D TV Logitech MK350 Rosewill HIVE 850 NZXT S340 
MouseMouse PadOther
Logitech G700s Aukey Smooth 36" Gaming Pad Logitech Driving Force GT  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom X6 1065T @ 4GHz - 1.45v MSI 970 Gaming XFX DD 7870 Black Edition @ 1200/1500 G. Skill Trident-X 8GB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
ADATA SP550 240GB SSD Lite On 24x DVD  Corsair H80i Windows 10 
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