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I'm not sure if the IC's are Samsung or not, and I can not read the sticker ATM. But the kit is "F3-2400C10-8GTX" from CPU-Z

Thanks for the response, tomorrow I will try 9-10-10-28, in case the IC's are Samsung. And I will also try a standard LLC setting for the CPU-NB to see if I can tame temps a bit and maintain stability. +rep thumb.gif

Figuring out ic for GSkill kits:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?283666-Figuring-out-G-Skill-s-SNs

Various ic used in DDR3 dram kits:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?285767-DDR3-IC-thread

If Samsung?... Then a 2x8GB kit would be double sided 4GBit chips... Most likely revision B (Picture from TaPaKah's thread).

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Well, my run at 5 ghz on air is over for now. It got there but temps were out of control. It would only do 13 or so passes of IBT before the backside VRMs on the Sabertooth would hit 82C and it would fail.

So I looked in the archive and found that last November this board was running higher voltage and lower temps. The difference? An 8350 vs 8370, and a HE01 vs Silver Arrow CPU cooler. It was time to swap coolers! Long story short, the needlenose pliers I was using for the backup slipped and gouged the board, cutting 2 wire tracks. Dead board.

Here are the runs. The 8350 run was made on manual mode at 1.61 vcore and the 8370 run was made on offset mode. I don't remember the setting but it was much lower with higher LLC.



My conclusion is 5 ghz on air can happen with these new CPUs but hasn't been proven. Yet.
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So with CnQ enabled at 4GHz the CPU uses like .8v at 1400MHz. But when I'm OCed to 4.9GHz the CPU idles at 1400MHz with 1v-1.1v. Is there a way to make 1400MHz at 4.9GHz run at the same .8v? If there is and I do this will the OC/system be unstable? Going to search it on the web.

Also is it okay to run 2133MHz RAM with stock 2200MHz NB? If I don't need 2600MHz NB for 2133MHz RAM I'd rather just put it back to stock for now until I run my RAM at 2400MHz. That way I shave about .1v off of CPU/NB Voltage.
Edited by xKrNMBoYx - 4/3/15 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by PolRoger View Post

Figuring out ic for GSkill kits:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?283666-Figuring-out-G-Skill-s-SNs

Various ic used in DDR3 dram kits:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?285767-DDR3-IC-thread

If Samsung?... Then a 2x8GB kit would be double sided 4GBit chips... Most likely revision B (Picture from TaPaKah's thread).
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Excellent info/links. Thanks a lot Roger. + rep wink.gif
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Well, my run at 5 ghz on air is over for now. It got there but temps were out of control. It would only do 13 or so passes of IBT before the backside VRMs on the Sabertooth would hit 82C and it would fail.

So I looked in the archive and found that last November this board was running higher voltage and lower temps. The difference? An 8350 vs 8370, and a HE01 vs Silver Arrow CPU cooler. It was time to swap coolers! Long story short, the needlenose pliers I was using for the backup slipped and gouged the board, cutting 2 wire tracks. Dead board.

Here are the runs. The 8350 run was made on manual mode at 1.61 vcore and the 8370 run was made on offset mode. I don't remember the setting but it was much lower with higher LLC. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


My conclusion is 5 ghz on air can happen with these new CPUs but hasn't been proven. Yet.

Too bad about your board, that is a bummer. I admire your persistence and determination biggrin.gif I too am questing to tweak things and perform simple mods and such for taming temps to achieve respectable clocks on air. Its the thrill of the chase! I'm currently working on FSB, RAM speed, and CPU-NB voltage, and I think it will shave a small amount of heat judging by preliminary testing.

Keep it up thumb.gif
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So with CnQ enabled at 4GHz the CPU uses like .8v at 1400MHz. But when I'm OCed to 4.9GHz the CPU idles at 1400MHz with 1v-1.1v. Is there a way to make 1400MHz at 4.9GHz run at the same .8v? If there is and I do this will the OC/system be unstable? Going to search it on the web.

Also is it okay to run 2133MHz RAM with stock 2200MHz NB? If I don't need 2600MHz NB for 2133MHz RAM I'd rather just put it back to stock for now until I run my RAM at 2400MHz. That way I shave about .1v off of CPU/NB Voltage.
Use a tad lower vcore and a higher offset, or lower vcore and increase llc. I fixed the exact issue last night with the offset.

Also, nb is fine stock for 2133.
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Thanks for the nice remarks bro....


It was definitely fun, and very well worth it. I am a believer in this chip! I was one of "those guys" who was super pro thuban, because of some certain benchmark numbers we have all seen, but after seeing what this thing can do.... wow! It really is an amazing value. thumb.gif

G'night guys! thumbsupsmiley.png

Now just wait for an Intel acolyte to rush in and tell you how much better an Intel is. biggrin.gif
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Use a tad lower vcore and a higher offset, or lower vcore and increase llc. I fixed the exact issue last night with the offset.

Also, nb is fine stock for 2133.

Is this suggestion for my CnQ question? Might try that. 1.512v is the minimum/lowest vcore can be for 4.9GHz on IBT/Prime/etc. With 1.356v/1.364v and High LLC it sets the voltage just at 1.512v with a high CPU load. Also now a days I only run an OC that passes 50 Runs of IBT Max stably. Might try Ultra-High LLC again though. Thanks for your input on NB stock with 2133MHz. Going to change back to stock NB and stock CPU/NB Voltage.
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Now just wait for an Intel acolyte to rush in and tell you how much better an Intel is. biggrin.gif

Don't jinx us...thumb.gif
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@Agent Smith,

If i remember correctly, you had already installed a fan to blow on the VRM, right? Good for you! Seems the board suffers from the usual "Asrock 970 problem":

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20970%20Performance/?cat=CPU

* For cooling the CPU and its surrounding components, please install a CPU cooler with a top-down blowing design.
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Here's what it looks like a negative result, the same did not know about this when I post in the 5GHz 24/7 OC Club I thought it was stable

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The moral of the story is..... buy a 8370, 8370E, or whatever you fancy, but this $99 chip will sit right with it, cause these things are falling off the conveyor with the same capabilities at this point. I am simply at the mercy of a cheap board with no LLC.

I sincerely thank all of you who have helped me get this thing settled in, and anyone else who has been along for the ride as well.

I am going to play some BF4 at 4.9GHz now, but not before I tape my dick down with some duct tape....... lachen.gif

that has always been the story of piledriver. AMD doesn't bin their chips based on possible overclocks, but based on power leak, which is a different thing all together. Those 87xx chips are all low leak chips, just like the 8320 and your 8300 is. The 8350, 9370 and the like are all high leak. the bad overclockers always seemed to be the chips that were sorta vanilla. the chips that fell into the "extreme" category of high/low leak tend to overclock the best.
 
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