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offset voltage works like this.

You have to work out what your CPU's stock VID voltage. A program like HW info 64 will tell you what the correct VID value is as long as turbo is disabled. Once you have figured out what your VID is. Go to your BIOS. Go to the voltage section and under vcore select offset instead of manual. Now you need to do some basic maths here. An example. My chip has a VID of 1.288V. And I need 1.4625V to keep 4.95GHz stable. So I take 1.4625-1.288= 0.1745V is your offset voltage. That gives me 1.464V underload and lowers as CnQ drops the clock speed.

ASUS boards do the same thing in the bios.

My CPU stock voltage is 1.35 V OR 1350 mV (as written inside the BIOS)

I may be wrong. But it looks correct in my opinion
 
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My stock voltage is 1.308v apparently. If I subtract my offset voltage from the result I get 1.308v. I use to think my stock voltage was 1.356 but I think that is the voltage my CHVFZ uses when I had Turbo Boost enabled.

.:edit:.

Is there a way to read HWInfo's csv log files in a more organized form? Seem impossible when csv means comma separated values.
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offset voltage works like this.

You have to work out what your CPU's stock VID voltage. A program like HW info 64 will tell you what the correct VID value is as long as turbo is disabled. Once you have figured out what your VID is. Go to your BIOS. Go to the voltage section and under vcore select offset instead of manual. Now you need to do some basic maths here. An example. My chip has a VID of 1.288V. And I need 1.4625V to keep 4.95GHz stable. So I take 1.4625-1.288= 0.1745V is your offset voltage. That gives me 1.464V underload and lowers as CnQ drops the clock speed.

ASUS boards do the same thing in the bios.

My CPU stock voltage is 1.35 V OR 1350 mV (as written inside the BIOS)

I may be wrong. But it looks correct in my opinion
not quiet. The asus BIOS is a bit off. Mine reports a stock Vid of 1.3 for my CPU. But he info reports 1.288. When when you take the Asus offsets into account it actually is trying to use 1.288 as the reference. Even although the bios says the stock is 1.3.
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I bit the bullet and upgraded to a i7-4790k, for all those who are considering making the jump from a massively overclocked fx-8XXX I would say just get a better GPU or two. The biggest difference between my overclocked 4790k vs 8350 is minimum fps, the intel chip does a much better job of maintaining your fps, which in some cases creates a better gaming experience. But for the games like Crysis 3 and Battlefield 4 I am not seeing any improvements at all. If you are building a 1080p rig a fx-8320 and used r9-290/290x from ebay is still the way the to go.

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I bit the bullet and upgraded to a i7-4790k, for all those who are considering making the jump from a massively overclocked fx-8XXX I would say just get a better GPU or two. The biggest difference between my overclocked 4790k vs 8350 is minimum fps, the intel chip does a much better job of maintaining your fps, which in some cases creates a better gaming experience. But for the games like Crysis 3 and Battlefield 4 I am not seeing any improvements at all. If you are building a 1080p rig a fx-8320 and used r9-290/290x from ebay is still the way the to go.

Just my 2 cents.

Kind of agree.

For all you FireStrike users. Benchmarks like Cinebench and AIDA64 (excluding ones heavily related to memory) has improved. But Firestrike scores has dropped overall with 5GHz. I was wondering if NB frequency makes a large difference in Fire Strike as I went from 2600MHz to 2200MHz. Fire Strike and AIDA's CPU PhotoWorxx/Memory Read/Write/Copy/Latency are the only benchmarks where I see drops in values. For the AIDA benchmarks that are coming up with lower numbers they are by 1000-3000 mpixels/s or MB/s.
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Originally Posted by Alastair View Post

offset voltage works like this.

You have to work out what your CPU's stock VID voltage. A program like HW info 64 will tell you what the correct VID value is as long as turbo is disabled. Once you have figured out what your VID is. Go to your BIOS. Go to the voltage section and under vcore select offset instead of manual. Now you need to do some basic maths here. An example. My chip has a VID of 1.288V. And I need 1.4625V to keep 4.95GHz stable. So I take 1.4625-1.288= 0.1745V is your offset voltage. That gives me 1.464V underload and lowers as CnQ drops the clock speed.


Thanks for the explanation, I figured the same but just wanted to clarify with someone who has used this method. All is working as it should now with my idle vcore @.984 .Now to try and use a little lower LLC, I'm set to ultra high for the OC to be stable right now. I'm not at the extreme setting but would like to lower that to high or lower but I really don't see that happening as my chip doesn't like even a 4.3 speed without LLC set at ultra high. As for now everything is very stable with 236 FSB. Multiplyer @19.5 , 1.425vcore@ load for 4.617 clock speed. I'm sure I could squeeze more out of it as my temps @load running prime95 blend are maxing out at 51c but it seems this thing is very power hungry after 4.5 Not sure the added voltage and heat is going to be worth the gain at this point. Thanks again for the input thumb.gif
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Kind of agree.

For all you FireStrike users. Benchmarks like Cinebench and AIDA64 (excluding ones heavily related to memory) has improved. But Firestrike scores has dropped overall with 5GHz. I was wondering if NB frequency makes a large difference in Fire Strike as I went from 2600MHz to 2200MHz. Fire Strike and AIDA's CPU PhotoWorxx/Memory Read/Write/Copy/Latency are the only benchmarks where I see drops in values. For the AIDA benchmarks that are coming up with lower numbers they are by 1000-3000 mpixels/s or MB/s.

Yes.

Memory ckock and Timings and CPU-NB matter with FS.
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Yes.

Memory ckock and Timings and CPU-NB matter with FS.

Thanks makes me feel better.

Figured out how to import CSV into Excel and have it organized. Now time to look through the values.
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not quiet. The asus BIOS is a bit off. Mine reports a stock Vid of 1.3 for my CPU. But he info reports 1.288. When when you take the Asus offsets into account it actually is trying to use 1.288 as the reference. Even although the bios says the stock is 1.3.

well then, I have a CPU VID of 1.3375 V and a CPU/NB VID of 1.175 V.

Now the question: Should I be happy about it or not? Because seeing your VID i'm not feeling happy about it.

And second question: Since I sold this CPU, should I buy a 8350 again or stick with a 8320?
 
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not quiet. The asus BIOS is a bit off. Mine reports a stock Vid of 1.3 for my CPU. But he info reports 1.288. When when you take the Asus offsets into account it actually is trying to use 1.288 as the reference. Even although the bios says the stock is 1.3.

well then, I have a CPU VID of 1.3375 V and a CPU/NB VID of 1.175 V.

Now the question: Should I be happy about it or not? Because seeing your VID i'm not feeling happy about it.

And second question: Since I sold this CPU, should I buy a 8350 again or stick with a 8320?
It's about normal for the older FX chips. My 8350 had a vid of 1.35V (1.375V) according to the bios. This 8370 is part of the newer batch and really shows off the low voltage prowess of the new chips.
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