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This might be a dumb question but for a socket cooling fan do you position it to blow air directly at the socket or the opposite to draw the heat away from the mobo and expel outwards?

I think either this weekend or next I'm gonna cut my Luxe's right side panel after fitting it for one of my spare 120mms.

I also didn't think to try dropping voltage and checking stability..that's an interesting idea. Thank you sir

i always had a fan blowing on the socket if its right i dont know lol ive never asked rolleyes.gif
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A point to consider, now that you are running cooler, you may be able to back off on the vcore and still be stable.
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I'm glad he recognizes the need for socket cooling, I'm sure he would benefit greatly from it.

This might be a dumb question but for a socket cooling fan do you position it to blow air directly at the socket or the opposite to draw the heat away from the mobo and expel outwards?

I think either this weekend or next I'm gonna cut my Luxe's right side panel after fitting it for one of my spare 120mms.

I also didn't think to try dropping voltage and checking stability..that's an interesting idea. Thank you sir

Blowing directly down on the socket and the vrm's ( both sides of motherboard).
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I blow air on mine also.
Mine is pretty restricted right now, since I drilled a lot of small holes instead of cutting one large hole.

I have to drill out the back of the motherboard tray and the door, and the slim line 120mm I have fits right in between the two.

Looking back I would of just cut holes, as I have gone through about 4 bits already and the project still doesn't have enough holes in it.

I just wanted to be cheap and not spend $30 on a hole saw... I will drill a few more outside when the weather imrpoves tomorrow, but that's it for this chassis. I have decided I am definitely going with the In Win 707 in the next few weeks because of the fan mount already behind the socket. The hole saw is 1/3 the cost of that case, which just makes no sense at all at this point.
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i always had a fan blowing on the socket if its right i dont know lol ive never asked rolleyes.gif
I got better temps blowing on the socket...I would say the flow towards disperses the heat better than the static pressure would pull it away...
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i always had a fan blowing on the socket if its right i dont know lol ive never asked rolleyes.gif
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Blowing directly down on the socket and the vrm's ( both sides of motherboard).

Good to know, thanks guys.
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Good to know, thanks guys.
remember to offset it a but if you can so the center of the fan is in between the vrms and the socket so the dead spot isn't over either smile.gif
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Hello guys.

I have a question: Is there a specific version of IBT that I should use for stability testing? I'm using the one on the first post and even downloaded the original one from the author, both gives me random errors at the end on some tests.

I've been messing with the Stress Level size, it works with 128MB size but gives me error with 64MB size.
Running 5 tests at Standard level gives me error while running 10 tests works.

I'm running everything stock (minus the memory, which I couldn't run all four of them at full bandwidth because apparently the FX-8320 controller can only handle 1 chip at 1866Mhz per channel).

https://a.pomf.se/hzzfgi.png

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CPU: FX-8320
Mobo: Gigabyte 970A-UD3P
Memory: 4x 4Gb Kingston HyperX 1866Mhz CL10
PSU: OCZ StealthXStream 600W
OS: Windows 8.1 pro 64-bit.

Does this makes any sense? What the hell?

Also, while writing this post I noticed the "VR T1" and "VR T2" temperature sensors catching a pretty high number on HWiNFO. Anyone know what is it?

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Based on what I see there (a few things)

You are running much too high of voltage for that clock speed (which is not the reason for the error in my opinion, but is the cause of the socket temp)
The TR1 and 2 temps you are seeing are for your socket.... Your VRM temp will also contribute to your socket temp. In the case of the UD3P, the power phase is a good design, and most of the time, a little too good for the heatsink it uses, which is much smaller than the 990's and also lacks a heat-pipe.
If you are planning on running stock clocks, I would reduce your voltage and you will see that socket temp go way down.
If you plan to overclock, 1.4v is a good place to start testing. The socket can go into the 80's without a fan, but should be fine.
The error you are getting appears to be a stability issue not related to core/voltage. I am guessing you are have RAM issues.
Try running only 2 DIMMs at the stock XMP profiles, and increase voltage to 1.65v for stability if needed.

Sometimes our AMD's like a little extra RAM voltage to work at rated timings, and even when not, the additional voltage gives you some headroom to reduce timings.
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Based on what I see there (a few things)

You are running much too high of voltage for that clock speed (which is not the reason for the error in my opinion, but is the cause of the socket temp)
The TR1 and 2 temps you are seeing are for your socket.... Your VRM temp will also contribute to your socket temp. In the case of the UD3P, the power phase is a good design, and most of the time, a little too good for the heatsink it uses, which is much smaller than the 990's and also lacks a heat-pipe.
If you are planning on running stock clocks, I would reduce your voltage and you will see that socket temp go way down.
If you plan to overclock, 1.4v is a good place to start testing. The socket can go into the 80's without a fan, but should be fine.
The error you are getting appears to be a stability issue not related to core/voltage. I am guessing you are have RAM issues.
Try running only 2 DIMMs at the stock XMP profiles, and increase voltage to 1.65v for stability if needed.

Sometimes our AMD's like a little extra RAM voltage to work at rated timings, and even when not, the additional voltage gives you some headroom to reduce timings.

Thank for replying!

This 1.4v showing on HWiNFO is the VID. The vcore is actually 1.356v as shown on CPU-Z. Is that too much?

I was searching and found some people saying VR T1/2 is the VRM/MOSFET temp... Any idea on how I can confirm what is it?

A little more info: I was running my system the above settings for a while, but not being able to get at least 4.4ghz out of the CPU was feeling like a waste.

CPU: 4.05Ghz 1.356v
Memory: 1800Mhz 9-9-9-22 1.62v (stock is 10-11-10-30 1866Mhz 1.5v)
CPU/NB: 2475Mhz 1.225v
HT: 2475Mhz

So I decided to know why this is happening and choose IBT...

I will try running two sticks and report back, but what do it it's the case? I kinda of need all four of them (video/image editing/streaming etc).
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Hey guys been reading this thread for awhile, but have a quick question you the local brain trust.. I currently have the 6300 @4.5 been wanting to move up to the 8350 or the 8370 would i seen much improvement as I play a few games the rest is just goofing around on the web? Thanks in advance..
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Thank for replying!

This 1.4v showing on HWiNFO is the VID. The vcore is actually 1.356v as shown on CPU-Z. Is that too much?

I was searching and found some people saying VR T1/2 is the VRM/MOSFET temp... Any idea on how I can confirm what is it?

A little more info: I was running my system the above settings for a while, but not being able to get at least 4.4ghz out of the CPU was feeling like a waste.

CPU: 4.05Ghz 1.356v
Memory: 1800Mhz 9-9-9-22 1.62v (stock is 10-11-10-30 1866Mhz 1.5v)
CPU/NB: 2475Mhz 1.225v
HT: 2475Mhz

So I decided to know why this is happening and choose IBT...

I will try running two sticks and report back, but what do it it's the case? I kinda of need all four of them (video/image editing/streaming etc).


From all of that I would say....

1.35 may be needed for the 4GHz, so that should be fine. Mine will do 4.6 on 1.344v load, but my CPU could be from a much different batch....
The VR T1 could also be the VRM temp, either way expect it to be high without adding active cooling.

Also, based on those clocks you just posted, I see right away that you are bumping the base clock.
For the purpose of stability, and finding your best core options, PLEASE just stick to multiplier clocking, with the NB/HT speeds and voltages at stock. Play with the base clock later....
1800MHz @ CL9 may not even be close to stable with large reduction you have made in timings. If the RAM is needing CL10-11 for 1866 on 1.5v, it is highly doubful that it will do 9-9 at 1800MHz. Again, return to 200MHz on the base clock, and get the RAM back to stock.
First with two sticks, then with 4.

Let us know how that does.
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