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Hey guys been reading this thread for awhile, but have a quick question you the local brain trust.. I currently have the 6300 @4.5 been wanting to move up to the 8350 or the 8370 would i seen much improvement as I play a few games the rest is just goofing around on the web? Thanks in advance..

It really is going to depend on if you are happy with your current performance.
If you are seeing your CPU capped out right now, then the FX-8 would be a great upgrade....
But if you are seeing the GPU struggling to meet your needs, you'd be better served to upgrade there.

What games are you playing, and what kind of performance are you seeing, and at what settings?
FX-6300 and the 7900 are a good match in my opinion.
Adding a second 7900 is a bad option because of the CPU limitation.
Adding a faster CPU will help in some cases, but may not help much at all in others (again depending on what you are doing/playing)
Adding a single faster GPU is usually the best value, but may be overkill for what you are doing.
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From all of that I would say....

1.35 may be needed for the 4GHz, so that should be fine. Mine will do 4.6 on 1.344v load, but my CPU could be from a much different batch....
The VR T1 could also be the VRM temp, either way expect it to be high without adding active cooling.

Also, based on those clocks you just posted, I see right away that you are bumping the base clock.
For the purpose of stability, and finding your best core options, PLEASE just stick to multiplier clocking, with the NB/HT speeds and voltages at stock. Play with the base clock later....
1800MHz @ CL9 may not even be close to stable with large reduction you have made in timings. If the RAM is needing CL10-11 for 1866 on 1.5v, it is highly doubful that it will do 9-9 at 1800MHz. Again, return to 200MHz on the base clock, and get the RAM back to stock.
First with two sticks, then with 4.

Let us know how that does.
Yes, I was running the FSB at 225Mhz just because the RAM speed...

Memory, two sticks only: 1866Mhz, 10-11-10-30 1.5v
CPU: 3.5Ghz 1.325v
CPU/NB: 2,2Ghz 1.225v
HT 2.4Ghz

Passed Standard and High stress levels with 5 and 10 runs each, nice:
https://a.pomf.se/dktqid.png

If I add the other two sticks it won't even boot with 1866Mhz (again, CPU limitation). When I brought them I tried switching between sticks and channels. All four works fine with any combination of channel/pair if I do only two, but four of them won't boot at 1866Mhz. So I decided to lower the frequency and tight the timings...

I've never tried it myself, but those HyperX Fury sticks are well known for their OC capability, there are reviews showing them running fine at 2100Mhz by just changing the voltage do 1.65v.

Welp, at least we have already found the cause of the issue! You have a suggestion on how to overclock my RAM in this situation?
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Well the only game I play a lot of is WOT, I have an Asus matrix plat, so no problem there on a 1080 monitor (thinking of going to an ASUS VG248QE) but everything is running fine was just wondering more than anything else.. I've seen the future plan for AMD but as it seems like it still a ways off and prices aren't too bad here at the moment so I figured way not..
Edited by SavageBrat - 5/1/15 at 11:40am
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Yes, I was running the FSB at 225Mhz just because the RAM speed...

Memory, two sticks only: 1866Mhz, 10-11-10-30 1.5v
CPU: 3.5Ghz 1.325v
CPU/NB: 2,2Ghz 1.225v
HT 2.4Ghz

Passed Standard and High stress levels with 5 and 10 runs each, nice:
https://a.pomf.se/dktqid.png

If I add the other two sticks it won't even boot with 1866Mhz (again, CPU limitation). When I brought them I tried switching between sticks and channels. All four works fine with any combination of channel/pair if I do only two, but four of them won't boot at 1866Mhz. So I decided to lower the frequency and tight the timings...

I've never tried it myself, but those HyperX Fury sticks are well known for their OC capability, there are reviews showing them running fine at 2100Mhz by just changing the voltage do 1.65v.

Welp, at least we have already found the cause of the issue! You have a suggestion on how to overclock my RAM in this situation?

Are you using 1T or 2T?

I don't see any reason why your CPU wouldn't be able to handle 4 DIMMs at 1866 unless the CPU-NB needs a little more voltage, or you need a little more RAM voltage.

Try reducing your RAM to 1600MHz, set to 2T, then set CPU-NB VID to 1.2v, then save the settings and power off. Then install the additional RAM and see if it boots. thumb.gif
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Well the only game I play a lot of is WOT, I have an Asus matrix plat, so no problem there on a 1080 monitor (thinking of going to an ASUS VG248QE) but everything is running fine was just wondering more than anything else..

I'd say go ahead if you were doing something more intensive, but that setup you have is fine for a while unless your usage type changes.
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Hey guys been reading this thread for awhile, but have a quick question you the local brain trust.. I currently have the 6300 @4.5 been wanting to move up to the 8350 or the 8370 would i seen much improvement as I play a few games the rest is just goofing around on the web? Thanks in advance..

I think you'd be further ahead improving your cooling and getting that 6300 humming along at a faster speed. Most games still run on 4 cores or less and won't really take advantage of the 8 core FX. Typically what people need more is a bit more speed VS more cores. IMO
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Are you using 1T or 2T?

I don't see any reason why your CPU wouldn't be able to handle 4 DIMMs at 1866 unless the CPU-NB needs a little more voltage, or you need a little more RAM voltage.

Try reducing your RAM to 1600MHz, set to 2T, then set CPU-NB VID to 1.2v, then save the settings and power off. Then install the additional RAM and see if it boots. thumb.gif

Nope, it's official: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/ddr3memoryfrequencyguide.aspx
FX Processors can only do two sticks at 1866Mhz, searched a LOT already about that earlier this year when after brought for of them and could only find one person saying he managed to run four 1866Mhz sticks, and with no pictures or anything... So, yeah. mellowsmiley.gif

Anyway, I will try messing some more with the voltages!
Edited by eskci0 - 5/1/15 at 11:52am
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hmm..as I'm oc right now at 4.5 and my cooling is a 360 Fractal Design S36 so it's cool..

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Nope, it's official: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/ddr3memoryfrequencyguide.aspx
FX Processors can only do two sticks at 1866Mhz, searched a LOT already about that earlier this year when after brought for of them and could only find one person saying he managed to run four 1866Mhz sticks, and with no pictures or anything... So, yeah. mellowsmiley.gif

Anyway, I will try messing some more with the voltages!
tell that to the guys running four sticks at up to 2400 mhz right now..I'm sure there may even be one or two running a 6300 as well
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