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No CoolerMaster IceFusion is not a great compound. I personally use Arctic MX-4 and I have for years. However it looks like the new Cyorig pastes are really good so I might soon be giving those a try as well. I will recommend GC-Extreme and Arctic MX-4.


I figured it was bad or something for the great price for 200g lol



Hmm having a hard time deciding with gc extreme or arctic silver 5. If arctic silver 5 will beat gc extreme after cure time i would get it. But if not i would get gc extreme cause i keep hearing its really good... hmm
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So pretty much Artic Silver 5 is still king after cure time? i used to use that stuff back 2003 up to 2007 which i had a big tube and after it was gone i didn't buy it again. But temps was great for me with it after cure time. think i saw a 2 to 3c better when cured.

I was going to order Gelid extreme but if artic silver 5 is the best i might just pick that up again.

best no, middle of pack.

gelid GC extreme on average (in my experience and in reliable reviews) is top two with IC diamond.

but the difference from top spot to bottom spot in those benchmarks was 5-7 *

but just because you have the "top" paste doesn't mean its "mistake proof", you can't go from a goopy past like as5 to a thick paste like ic diamond and GC extreme and treat them exactly the same and expect better results.

each paste has their own usage learning curve.

nothing can save a bad mount other than a re-mount. the best tim won't make a difference on a bad mount.

I choose GC extreme due to my use case not due to its benchmark results. i needed a thicker paste that wouldn't goop-over its placement.
I can warm it up a little make it a touch more malleable enough to scrape a thin layer over my small heat sinks for the gpu cooler i'm using.

at the end of the day, the tim you choose as long as its modern tim, will not make or break your overclock.
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No CoolerMaster IceFusion is not a great compound. I personally use Arctic MX-4 and I have for years. However it looks like the new Cyorig pastes are really good so I might soon be giving those a try as well. I will recommend GC-Extreme and Arctic MX-4.


I figured it was bad or something for the great price for 200g lol



Hmm having a hard time deciding with gc extreme or arctic silver 5. If arctic silver 5 will beat gc extreme after cure time i would get it. But if not i would get gc extreme cause i keep hearing its really good... hmm

I used to use AS% but it is hard to clean up compared to other pastes. Lately I've settled on the Gelid supreme , good price and good performance also very easy to clean off. Unless you're remounting CPUs 2-3 times a week like some of us a big tube of paste will be a waste. It does have a shelf life.
If it were me, I would just get a small tube of MX-4, gelid , arctic ceramique or something similar. In the end a few degrees doesn't get you another 100 MHz so it doesn't really matter that much.
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I used to use AS% but it is hard to clean up compared to other pastes. Lately I've settled on the Gelid supreme , good price and good performance also very easy to clean off. Unless you're remounting CPUs 2-3 times a week like some of us a big tube of paste will be a waste. It does have a shelf life.
If it were me, I would just get a small tube of MX-4, gelid , arctic ceramique or something similar. In the end a few degrees doesn't get you another 100 MHz so it doesn't really matter that much.

I go for the Antec Formula 7
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The fan on the backside of motherboard pretty much just effects socket temp.
I know. I haven't noticed a difference in that. However, the temp monitoring software I use (and the others I've looked at) shows CPU and package temps. I don't have anything else to go from and the package is always the same temp as the CPU temp according to the info. Maybe there is a difference but I can't see it because of the lack of a sensor.
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I have a question. What thermal paste is everyone using? Why i asked is im going to buy a new tube because im out of it when i order the core x9 today. Right now im using tuniq tx 2 which i bought last year and been pretty happy with it.

But i saw others like IC Diamond 7 Carat GELID Solutions GC-Extreme and Cooler Master IceFusion - 200 g which is a great deal for 17$ but im not sure how good it is.
Liquid Pro. Now that it's just $10 I really don't see the point in using anything less.

The key to it is to watch out for the spurting of the syringe. It likes to come out in a big glob if you're not careful. Otherwise it's a piece of cake to use. Removing it is probably a challenge, but it remains wet so why remove it? Unlike pastes, this stuff is more of a liquid so I don't think air bubbles are an issue. Even if you get any air bubbles from remounting you'll still get better thermal performance with this stuff than with any paste. Pastes just can't compete with actual liquid metal, especially the Pro since it doesn't have bismuth or anything like that alloyed with it to make it easier to remove.

You can't use anything with aluminum or iron with it and it shows the best results with a smooth mirror-like surface. Thick pastes are a good choice for rough surfaces.

Arctic Silver isn't a good choice. Anything that says it needs 200 hours of cure time plus many many shutdowns and power-ons is a rather silly product now that no-nonsense stuff like Liquid Pro is available and provides better temps. Also, I have seen several paste roundups that don't place AS5 very high. People who say they have had problems with Liquid Pro probably have aluminum residue on their stuff from the use of Arctic Silver and such. Gallium doesn't react with copper or nickle.

Another nice thing about Liquid Pro is that you brush it to an even consistency across the entire die. You don't have to try to figure out how large a pea or grain of rice is supposed to be according to whomever has left the instructions. There is no worry about not having the TIM spread across the whole heatspreader as a result.

• Liquid Pro for anything except aluminum/iron, rough surfaces, and situations where conductivity must be completely avoided.
• A thick high-quality non-curing paste for rough surfaces. You an use Liquid Pro with rough surfaces. It just doesn't shine as much versus pastes.
• A thin high-quality non-curing paste for mirror-like surfaces with aluminum or iron.

The mounting pressure of the cooler also makes a difference, but not as much of one as the roughness of the surface as far as I know.
Edited by superstition222 - 5/21/15 at 12:35pm
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I know. I haven't noticed a difference in that. However, the temp monitoring software I use (and the others I've looked at) shows CPU and package temps. I don't have anything else to go from and the package is always the same temp as the CPU temp according to the info. Maybe there is a difference but I can't see it because of the lack of a sensor.
Liquid Pro. Now that it's just $10 I really don't see the point in using anything less.

The key to it is to watch out for the spurting of the syringe. It likes to come out in a big glob if you're not careful. Otherwise it's a piece of cake to use. Removing it is probably a challenge, but it remains wet so why remove it? Unlike pastes, this stuff is more of a liquid so I don't think air bubbles are an issue. Even if you get any air bubbles from remounting you'll still get better thermal performance with this stuff than with any paste. Pastes just can't compete with actual liquid metal, especially the Pro since it doesn't have bismuth or anything like that alloyed with it to make it easier to remove.

You can't use anything with aluminum or iron with it and it shows the best results with a smooth mirror-like surfaceThick pastes are a good choice for rough surfaces.

Arctic Silver isn't a good choice. Anything that says it needs 200 hours of cure time plus many many shutdowns and power-ons is a rather silly product now that no-nonsense stuff like Liquid Pro is available and provides better temps. Also, I have seen several paste roundups that don't place AS5 very high. People who say they have had problems with Liquid Pro probably have aluminum residue on their stuff from the use of Arctic Silver and such. Gallium doesn't react with copper or nickle.

Another nice thing about Liquid Pro is that you brush it to an even consistency across the entire die. You don't have to try to figure out how large a pea or grain of rice is supposed to be according to whomever has left the instructions. There is no worry about not having the TIM spread across the whole heatspreader as a result.

Liquid Pro for anything except aluminum/iron, rough surfaces, and situations where conductivity must be completely avoided.
• A thick high-quality non-curing paste for rough surfaces. You an use Liquid Pro with rough surfaces. It just doesn't shine as much versus pastes.
• A thin high-quality non-curing paste for mirror-like surfaces with aluminum or iron.

The mounting pressure of the cooler also makes a difference, but not as much of one as the roughness of the surface as far as I know.

This reminds me of the Drug Adds on TV, giving all of the horrible side effects! lachen.gif

Also, this would not be a good TIM for GPU's. Though I may try some for my CPU... after I do some research...
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The fan on the backside of motherboard pretty much just effects socket temp.
I know. I haven't noticed a difference in that. However, the temp monitoring software I use (and the others I've looked at) shows CPU and package temps. I don't have anything else to go from and the package is always the same temp as the CPU temp according to the info. Maybe there is a difference but I can't see it because of the lack of a sensor.
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I have a question. What thermal paste is everyone using? Why i asked is im going to buy a new tube because im out of it when i order the core x9 today. Right now im using tuniq tx 2 which i bought last year and been pretty happy with it.

But i saw others like IC Diamond 7 Carat GELID Solutions GC-Extreme and Cooler Master IceFusion - 200 g which is a great deal for 17$ but im not sure how good it is.
Liquid Pro. Now that it's just $10 I really don't see the point in using anything less.

The key to it is to watch out for the spurting of the syringe. It likes to come out in a big glob if you're not careful. Otherwise it's a piece of cake to use. Removing it is probably a challenge, but it remains wet so why remove it? Unlike pastes, this stuff is more of a liquid so I don't think air bubbles are an issue. Even if you get any air bubbles from remounting you'll still get better thermal performance with this stuff than with any paste. Pastes just can't compete with actual liquid metal, especially the Pro since it doesn't have bismuth or anything like that alloyed with it to make it easier to remove.

You can't use anything with aluminum or iron with it and it shows the best results with a smooth mirror-like surface. Thick pastes are a good choice for rough surfaces.

Arctic Silver isn't a good choice. Anything that says it needs 200 hours of cure time plus many many shutdowns and power-ons is a rather silly product now that no-nonsense stuff like Liquid Pro is available and provides better temps. Also, I have seen several paste roundups that don't place AS5 very high. People who say they have had problems with Liquid Pro probably have aluminum residue on their stuff from the use of Arctic Silver and such. Gallium doesn't react with copper or nickle.

Another nice thing about Liquid Pro is that you brush it to an even consistency across the entire die. You don't have to try to figure out how large a pea or grain of rice is supposed to be according to whomever has left the instructions. There is no worry about not having the TIM spread across the whole heatspreader as a result.

• Liquid Pro for anything except aluminum/iron, rough surfaces, and situations where conductivity must be completely avoided.
• A thick high-quality non-curing paste for rough surfaces. You an use Liquid Pro with rough surfaces. It just doesn't shine as much versus pastes.
• A thin high-quality non-curing paste for mirror-like surfaces with aluminum or iron.

The mounting pressure of the cooler also makes a difference, but not as much of one as the roughness of the surface as far as I know.

All boards read a socket temp, it's a requirement.
And for the liquid pro there are reasons not to use it, like you said it'll literally melt aluminum and this is what happens to copper. It's bonded right to it.

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My board has been running my FX-8350 at stock clocks with the voltage in the in the low 1.3s and high 1.2s.

Is this something I should try to remedy?
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Ayup! Overclock that puppy. That will fix that low vcore.
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Originally Posted by miklkit View Post

Ayup! Overclock that puppy. That will fix that low vcore.
Already tried. Board doesn't want to hold any stable voltages whatsoever.

Set it to 1.45 and all I get is 1.375 which just goes even lower when running prime95.
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