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My 8350 @ 4.5GHz scores higher than gert's 8370 @4.9GHz? I'm not very knowledgeable on Cinebench but do RAM speeds/timing affect it much or is there something else at play here I'm not realizing?

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No one here is talking **** but you. Stop taking offense when people call you out. Because some of us actually have experience with the chip. Rule of thumb is as follows. Rule has changed slightly thanks to the new E chips, however even with the lower voltages they still run hot.

4.2GHz (4.4GHz max) = Stock cooling
4.4GHz (4.5GHz max) = Budget air. (CoolerMaster Hyper 212, TT True Spirit 120)
4.5GHz (4.6GHz-4.7GHz max) = Single thin 120mm CLC. (Antec 620, Corsair H60, TT Water 2.0/3.0 Performer, CM Seidon 120M/V)
4.6GHz (4.7GHz Max) = High End Dual Tower (Noctua NH-D15, DeepCool Assassin)
4.7GHz (4.8GHz Max) = Single thick 120mm CLC (Corsair H80, Antec 920, TT Water 2.0/3.0 Pro CM Seidon 120XL)
4.8GHz (5.0 GHz Max) = Dual 120mm CLC (Corsair H100I, Water 2.0/3.0 Extreme)
5.0GHz and above = Custom Water Loop.

And here is the list of decent motherboards out there. Edited to show some of the newer boards on the market.
1. Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z (5Ghz capable)
2. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 (only board for Quad SLI CrossfireX) (5GHz capable) (not sure of the revisions)
3. MSI 990FXA-GD80 (5GHz capable)
4. Asus Sabertooth (5GHz capable)
5. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 (5GHz Capable) (not sure of revisions)
6. Asus M5A99FX Pro/EVO R2.0 and M5A97 EVO R2.0 (Hard to reach 5GHz., 4.8GHz Capable)
7. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 (Rev 1.1 is 5GHz capable from what I have seen. Others are not really. Rev 4. Hardlocked in BIOS to throttle on powerdraw. 4.8GHz Capable)
8. Gigabyte 970-UD3P (Same VRM's as UD3 rev4.0 4.8 capable.)
9. ASRock 970 Fatal1ty Performance (4.9GHz capable with additional cooling)
10. Asus M5A99X Rev 1.0 (4.8 capable.)
11. Sapphire Pure Black. (Good on paper but finniky from what I have heard)
12. ASRock 990FX Extreme9 (4.8GHz Capable but very hard to reach. These boards seem to blow up.)
13. AsRock 990FX Fatal1ty Professional (Similar VRM's to Extreme 9 4.8 is a hard ask)
14. MSI 990FXA-GD65 (Capable of up to 4.7GHz)
15. All other AM3+ boards

These are the facts. Dispute them if you want. But unless you can actually show a genuine screen shot of your rig passing at least 10 runs of IBT AVX on very high then you are a troll. Cssorkinman and myself can't be trolls if we have been there, done that, and got the screenshots to prove it. Do not claim you can run 5GHz stable on an H60 without the proof to back it up. You are no better than the fools that come in here and shout "Herpa Derp I can haz 5 JIGGAHERTZ on a 212!"

Here is a tip. Ever wondered why Prime 95 crashes ang gives you a hard time? You guessed it. Your not stable. Wanna know why you are not stable? You guessed it. Your running too hot. Wanna know what an extra few C's will give ya? 200MHz. Try get some better cooling. Then get your screenshots. Then comeback and prove you can run 5GHz stable.

That's total Garbage...come on dude...
Edited by RJ-Savage - 5/24/15 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by deehoC View Post

My 8350 @ 4.5GHz scores higher than gert's 8370 @4.9GHz? I'm not very knowledgeable on Cinebench but do RAM speeds/timing affect it much or is there something else at play here I'm not realizing?



i hit 765 with 4.8ghz lol

not sure whats up with my 4.9/5ghz scores ill have to go through it with fine toothpick to see whats happening
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i hit 765 with 4.8ghz lol

not sure whats up with my 4.9/5ghz scores ill have to go through it with fine toothpick to see whats happening

I thought it seemed odd. Please do let us know whats up when you figure it out since I'd like to avoid it in the future
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No one here is talking **** but you. Stop taking offense when people call you out. Because some of us actually have experience with the chip. Rule of thumb is as follows. Rule has changed slightly thanks to the new E chips, however even with the lower voltages they still run hot.

4.2GHz (4.4GHz max) = Stock cooling
4.4GHz (4.5GHz max) = Budget air. (CoolerMaster Hyper 212, TT True Spirit 120)
4.5GHz (4.6GHz-4.7GHz max) = Single thin 120mm CLC. (Antec 620, Corsair H60, TT Water 2.0/3.0 Performer, CM Seidon 120M/V)
4.6GHz (4.7GHz Max) = High End Dual Tower (Noctua NH-D15, DeepCool Assassin)
4.7GHz (4.8GHz Max) = Single thick 120mm CLC (Corsair H80, Antec 920, TT Water 2.0/3.0 Pro CM Seidon 120XL)
4.8GHz (5.0 GHz Max) = Dual 120mm CLC (Corsair H100I, Water 2.0/3.0 Extreme)
5.0GHz and above = Custom Water Loop.

And here is the list of decent motherboards out there. Edited to show some of the newer boards on the market.
1. Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z (5Ghz capable)
2. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 (only board for Quad SLI CrossfireX) (5GHz capable) (not sure of the revisions)
3. MSI 990FXA-GD80 (5GHz capable)
4. Asus Sabertooth (5GHz capable)
5. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 (5GHz Capable) (not sure of revisions)
6. Asus M5A99FX Pro/EVO R2.0 and M5A97 EVO R2.0 (Hard to reach 5GHz., 4.8GHz Capable)
7. Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 (Rev 1.1 is 5GHz capable from what I have seen. Others are not really. Rev 4. Hardlocked in BIOS to throttle on powerdraw. 4.8GHz Capable)
8. Gigabyte 970-UD3P (Same VRM's as UD3 rev4.0 4.8 capable.)
9. ASRock 970 Fatal1ty Performance (4.9GHz capable with additional cooling)
10. Asus M5A99X Rev 1.0 (4.8 capable.)
11. Sapphire Pure Black. (Good on paper but finniky from what I have heard)
12. ASRock 990FX Extreme9 (4.8GHz Capable but very hard to reach. These boards seem to blow up.)
13. AsRock 990FX Fatal1ty Professional (Similar VRM's to Extreme 9 4.8 is a hard ask)
14. MSI 990FXA-GD65 (Capable of up to 4.7GHz)
15. All other AM3+ boards

These are the facts. Dispute them if you want. But unless you can actually show a genuine screen shot of your rig passing at least 10 runs of IBT AVX on very high then you are a troll. Cssorkinman and myself can't be trolls if we have been there, done that, and got the screenshots to prove it. Do not claim you can run 5GHz stable on an H60 without the proof to back it up. You are no better than the fools that come in here and shout "Herpa Derp I can haz 5 JIGGAHERTZ on a 212!"

Here is a tip. Ever wondered why Prime 95 crashes ang gives you a hard time? You guessed it. Your not stable. Wanna know why you are not stable? You guessed it. Your running too hot. Wanna know what an extra few C's will give ya? 200MHz. Try get some better cooling. Then get your screenshots. Then comeback and prove you can run 5GHz stable.

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That's total Garbage...4.6-4.7v Max? with the H60...no dude....so you are saying cannot go to 5ghz at all not do anything etc whatever dude...lol
You are going by Prime Disregard Fing Prime haha

Yes that is exactly what I am saying. Because I have owned a Vishera for almost three years now. I have tested it with a number of those coolers I have listed. And with some of those motherboards too. And I have also observed over the years.Those averages were the points where the chip could no longer maintain stable runs in IBT AVX. I extrapolated the max results based on the fact that every chip is different and someone may get a better chip that can run slightly more. However no 8 core Vishera will pass Prime or IBT at 5GHz on an H60. And your a fool to think otherwise. It is clear to me you have absolutely ZERO idea what you are talking about. The reason you are having or had a poor experience with Vishera is because you were running an unstable chip. An unstable chip will run like crap even if it is kind of running at 5GHz.. It is like sticking the biggest turbo in a 2JZ Supra but not upgrading the inter-cooler and radiator with it. Of course you are going to run into serious issues. rolleyes.gif But hey! You can run Cinebench at 5GHz with crappy scores so DAMN! It MUST BE STABLE! lachen.gif You're a joke.


Oh and here is Cinebanch at 4.95GHz. Beat that. Please


EDIT: No I don't go by Prime. I go by IBT. Are you blind? I posted my IBT screenshot not 3 or 4 posts ago. I just said that YOUR issues with Prime are related to a lack of cooling.

THERE ARE NON SO BLIND AS THOSE WHO WON'T SEE!
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Yes that is exactly what I am saying. Because I have owned a Vishera for almost three years now. I have tested it with a number of those coolers I have listed. And with some of those motherboards too. And I have also observed over the years.Those averages were the points where the chip could no longer maintain stable runs in IBT AVX. I extrapolated the max results based on the fact that every chip is different and someone may get a better chip that can run slightly more. However no 8 core Vishera will pass Prime or IBT at 5GHz on an H60. And your a fool to think otherwise. It is clear to me you have absolutely ZERO idea what you are talking about. The reason you are having or had a poor experience with Vishera is because you were running an unstable chip. An unstable chip will run like crap even if it is kind of running at 5GHz.. It is like sticking the biggest turbo in a 2JZ Supra but not upgrading the inter-cooler and radiator with it. Of course you are going to run into serious issues. rolleyes.gif But hey! You can run Cinebench at 5GHz with crappy scores so DAMN! It MUST BE STABLE! lachen.gif You're a joke.


Oh and here is Cinebanch at 4.95GHz. Beat that. Please

I know because I'm trying to get it....just hit 790 now....
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Yes that is exactly what I am saying. Because I have owned a Vishera for almost three years now. I have tested it with a number of those coolers I have listed. And with some of those motherboards too. And I have also observed over the years.Those averages were the points where the chip could no longer maintain stable runs in IBT AVX. I extrapolated the max results based on the fact that every chip is different and someone may get a better chip that can run slightly more. However no 8 core Vishera will pass Prime or IBT at 5GHz on an H60. And your a fool to think otherwise. It is clear to me you have absolutely ZERO idea what you are talking about. The reason you are having or had a poor experience with Vishera is because you were running an unstable chip. An unstable chip will run like crap even if it is kind of running at 5GHz.. It is like sticking the biggest turbo in a 2JZ Supra but not upgrading the inter-cooler and radiator with it. Of course you are going to run into serious issues. rolleyes.gif But hey! You can run Cinebench at 5GHz with crappy scores so DAMN! It MUST BE STABLE! lachen.gif You're a joke.


Oh and here is Cinebanch at 4.95GHz. Beat that. Please

can u change your previous d15 post i hit 4.8ghz with ibt very high lol u said 4.7 max ill take an extra 100mhz haha still got some room to possibly hit 4.9ghz but not tried it yet

proof of my 4.8 tongue.gif

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Yes that is exactly what I am saying. Because I have owned a Vishera for almost three years now. I have tested it with a number of those coolers I have listed. And with some of those motherboards too. And I have also observed over the years.Those averages were the points where the chip could no longer maintain stable runs in IBT AVX. I extrapolated the max results based on the fact that every chip is different and someone may get a better chip that can run slightly more. However no 8 core Vishera will pass Prime or IBT at 5GHz on an H60. And your a fool to think otherwise. It is clear to me you have absolutely ZERO idea what you are talking about. The reason you are having or had a poor experience with Vishera is because you were running an unstable chip. An unstable chip will run like crap even if it is kind of running at 5GHz.. It is like sticking the biggest turbo in a 2JZ Supra but not upgrading the inter-cooler and radiator with it. Of course you are going to run into serious issues. rolleyes.gif But hey! You can run Cinebench at 5GHz with crappy scores so DAMN! It MUST BE STABLE! lachen.gif You're a joke.


Oh and here is Cinebanch at 4.95GHz. Beat that. Please

can u change your previous d15 post i hit 4.8ghz with ibt very high lol u said 4.7 max ill take an extra 100mhz haha still got some room to possibly hit 4.9ghz but not tried it yet

proof of my 4.8 tongue.gif

Seems legit. Now GIVE ME 20!
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Yes that is exactly what I am saying. Because I have owned a Vishera for almost three years now. I have tested it with a number of those coolers I have listed. And with some of those motherboards too. And I have also observed over the years.Those averages were the points where the chip could no longer maintain stable runs in IBT AVX. I extrapolated the max results based on the fact that every chip is different and someone may get a better chip that can run slightly more. However no 8 core Vishera will pass Prime or IBT at 5GHz on an H60. And your a fool to think otherwise. It is clear to me you have absolutely ZERO idea what you are talking about. The reason you are having or had a poor experience with Vishera is because you were running an unstable chip. An unstable chip will run like crap even if it is kind of running at 5GHz.. It is like sticking the biggest turbo in a 2JZ Supra but not upgrading the inter-cooler and radiator with it. Of course you are going to run into serious issues. rolleyes.gif But hey! You can run Cinebench at 5GHz with crappy scores so DAMN! It MUST BE STABLE! lachen.gif You're a joke.


Oh and here is Cinebanch at 4.95GHz. Beat that. Please

I know because I'm trying to get it....just hit 790 now....
Like I said. Better cooling will give you the results you want.
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AMD FX-8370 @ 4.95GHz 1.5V 2700MHz NB/3000MHz HTT ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 2x Sapphire R9-Fury 3840 Corsair Vengeance 2133 4x4GB @ 2000 9-9-10-27 1CR 
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Samsung 850 PRO 1TB WD Blue 500GB WD Blue 1 TB Samsung Spinpoint HD502HI 
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XSPC D5 Bay Res 3x CoolerMaster Storm Force 200's 2x EK-FC Fury X fullcovers EK-FC Terminal Dual Parallel 
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2x EK-FC Fury X Backplates XSPC Raystorm CPU Block EKWB Coolstream CE280 EKWB Coolstream PE360 
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3x CoolerMaster Jetflo's 120mm 6 Corsair ML140's  Laing D5 Vario Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit 
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LG E2341V Roccat Ryos MK Pro Antec High Current Pro Platinum 1300W NZXT Phantom 820 Black 
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Mionix Naos 7000 Mionix Alioth GX Gaming SW-G2.1 3000 Kingston Hyper X Cloud Core 
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AMD Athlon 860K Asus A88X-Pro MSI R6850 Cyclone Power Edition MSI R6850 Cyclone Power Edition 
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G-Skill Ares 2133 CL10 8GB (2x4GB) Seagate ST1000VX003 Samsung HD502HI Arctic Cooling Freezer A30 
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Windows 10 Home Edition 64bit Razer Lycrosa Seagate M12II 620W Corsair Carbide SPEC-02 
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Intel Celeron G1840 MSI Z97-Guard Pro Gigabyte RX580 Gaming 4G Gigabyte RX570 Gaming 4G 
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XFX RX480 reference edition 8G Gigabyte RX570 Gaming 4g Gigabyte RX570 Gaming 4G G-Skill Ares F3-1600C9D 
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Samsung 750 Evo 120GB Stock  Windows 10 Pro  Gigabyte XP1200M 
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Like I said. Better cooling will give you the results you want.

I realize that haha...
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