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I doubt that is the whole truth. I went through that. However I dunno I called like 30 times to reactivate then I stoppped.

Like 6 months later I reinstalled again. I didn't have to even call (was a nice surprise ) so I think there is a cooldown. They also log your mac address and flag you if you use a different mobo as the oem license ( which most buy) is locked to your first mobo. It only transfers if your first board dies and is warrantied. That is the only reason they will otherwise you need to buy a new license
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I doubt that is the whole truth. I went through that. However I dunno I called like 30 times to reactivate then I stoppped.

Like 6 months later I reinstalled again. I didn't have to even call (was a nice surprise ) so I think there is a cooldown. They also log your mac address and flag you if you use a different mobo as the oem license ( which most buy) is locked to your first mobo. It only transfers if your first board dies and is warrantied. That is the only reason they will otherwise you need to buy a new license

Yes, there is an unknown cooldown period, but in my case, when i was swapping parts often, it made no difference. My licenses aren't OEM. They are academic and can be installed in as many motherboards as you like. Of course when you phone, you must pass the little interrogation routine "On how many computers do you have it installed? Why did you reinstall Windows?" etc. Which would be hilarious, if it wasn't irritating after the 1st time, considering i got them for free and that i have even more unused licenses... But frankly, i have decided to deal with the matter in another, more permanent way...
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If your board didn't register a socket temp then none of the temperature monitoring software would work since the calculations for core temp are based off of that reading AFIK. It just might not be visible with your software. It's the only physical reading on the board.
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what ever seriously even with pics, someone else showing it, i feel like recently we are just beating our heads against a wall.

i even know about it and i dont like to use it

it has been brought up a bit in the gpu threads, that is why i know about using nickel blocks

but you know what i and everyone else must be wrong
What I said is that others who use it have said it doesn't bond with copper. So other variables must be in play, like aluminum residue from other TIMs causing issues, or perhaps some sort of poor-grade copper alloy being used. If liquid pro were really that incompatible with copper parts there would have been a lot bigger fuss made about it in the enthusiast community, don't you think?

It's been around for years and the only reports of bonding seem anecdotal at best. If you have more rigorous evidence, though, I am definitely interested.
post #49944 of 68053
no, as i know most waterblocks are only bought from high quality ( NOT ALL IN ONES ) manufactures which almost all use without exception c110 copper ( at least all the ones i use do, ) but i would bet that EK uses only the best
@EK-CEO may we ask what kind of copper you use for your blocks ? c110 ?
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I don't know...cant activate it now....not logged in anymore as temp/local but its still in the non-activated state or whatever...and just won't activate...

so yeah the bull**** probably total refresh/clean install all that garbage....

Just so that you know... I guess you are one who likes formatting/swapping parts more than Microsoft does (like me). What happens is:

1) Once you exceed a certain number of activations and you can't activate via internet anymore. You have to call Microsoft where you get an automatic procedure, where you need to dial the numbers of your code and then you get a reply with a code to put in your computer. It's a nightmare, but it's doable.

2) But, once you reactivate even via phone call too many times, then the real torture begins. It won't let you activate via the phone call procedure anymore, but you have to talk to a real person. Which where i am, speaks worse english than i do and is not speaking my local language. You can't imagine the joy.

So, you are warned...

if you de-activate the windows Key prior to formatting you can extend that amount of certain activation, not sure how much they allow to do this but it works forwahile.
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If your board didn't register a socket temp then none of the temperature monitoring software would work since the calculations for core temp are based off of that reading AFIK. It just might not be visible with your software. It's the only physical reading on the board.
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what ever seriously even with pics, someone else showing it, i feel like recently we are just beating our heads against a wall.

i even know about it and i dont like to use it

it has been brought up a bit in the gpu threads, that is why i know about using nickel blocks

but you know what i and everyone else must be wrong
What I said is that others who use it have said it doesn't bond with copper. So other variables must be in play, like aluminum residue from other TIMs causing issues, or perhaps some sort of poor-grade copper alloy being used. If liquid pro were really that incompatible with copper parts there would have been a lot bigger fuss made about it in the enthusiast community, don't you think?

It's been around for years and the only reports of bonding seem anecdotal at best. If you have more rigorous evidence, though, I am definitely interested.

Ther are at least two in this thread that had the problem and one was on a bare die. The op had it on for two years. That's where the pic came from. Even heat wouldn't take it off. http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/759641-Liquid-Ultra-and-copper-blocks
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BULL.. there is nothing that you have done to your CPU that can even come close to the to the amount of abuse that is required to degrade an FX chip..
you do realize FX wipe the floor with those processors. if you can't get an FX system to run better than an OC'd first gen i7 you really are doing something wrong.

Stop blaming the chip for your budget purchases.

5 ghz on a h60, ha no...

5ghz on a 970 asrock board, ha

Budget parts = budget results.

Maybe not on that board..on a Sabertooth or Formula maybe...but with the R2Gene and 920 it DOES wipe the floor with it, it sure seems like it....at 4.2ghz
while yeah the killer that is more like tops 4.7ghz I know.

I don't know or some other obvious hell I got going over here with BOTH and Windows etc I don't know...

I had the 8320/killer running way better/great Way back, was doing everything wasn't missing a beat... I'm telling something just isn't right....

Like right now on non-activated probably corrupt as Hell Windows...and the 920 at 4.2ghz is just eating what that 8320/killer could do alive at 4.7ghz...

I'm serious...it's like so much more snappy/responsive...not being sluggish as hell all the time etc...

explain that then...as well as frames have improved in a lot of stuff....it sounds awful lot like CPU/Piledriver Bottleneck killer board whatever to me....

wasn't expecting 5ghz but I noticed could go a little further yeah 4.8-4.9ghz...etc

I'm going to try again with it....messing with windows if I have mod/hack whatever or ditch windows totally I will xD

you are welcome to provide benchmarks that prove your statement.
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you are welcome to provide benchmarks that prove your statement.
I think 1gen i7 6 cores cpus are still more powerful than our AMD 8 cores?
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Ther are at least two in this thread that had the problem and one was on a bare die. The op had it on for two years. That's where the pic came from. Even heat wouldn't take it off. http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/759641-Liquid-Ultra-and-copper-blocks
I suppose then the people who say they have used it for years with no problems (including one person who said he doesn't even reapply it because it remains wet) are lying or that the product is not consistent from batch to batch.

I guess it's good to know that a product that is only compatible with nickle can make it in the market for this many years and which has been featured in many review without tech sites prominently warning people about it. I guess that says a lot about the comprehensive hard-hitting tech enthusiast journalism world.
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you are welcome to provide benchmarks that prove your statement.
I think 1gen i7 6 cores cpus are still more powerful than our AMD 8 cores?

920 is a quad core with hyper threading

http://ark.intel.com/products/37147/Intel-Core-i7-920-Processor-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI

doesn't have 970 or 980 or a 990 which were the 6 core variants
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