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I can tell you for a fact that no tool is 100% certain... IBT AVX is quickest at picking out an unstable OC, Prime over time is best for finding smaller instabilities... but truth be told... and this hurts peoples feelings... but no computer, not one single computer in the whole world is 100% stable.. .not even at stock... think about it for just a min.... why would people who are concerned about accuracy go through such extreme lengths to get super accurate computations if there wasn't a need....

instability = errors in computation = inaccuracy

standard PC's are NOT built to provide the same accuracy level that engineering stations are built for... therefore, one must assume that there is a certain amount of inherent instability in every system, or what would be the point of spending thousands on a "special" video card for compute purposes or special cpu's?

In the race for speed of computation some accuracy has been sacrificed already... this goes for every system component... from your cpu, to the SSD... It really comes down to this... how stable is stable enough? Windows, and other software has coding in it specifically to deal with the little errors that commonly happen... double checks etc...that's why an unstable OC can actually perform worse than stock... well that and a few other reasons I'm not going to bother getting into...

I work with professional grade systems (controllers, engineering stations...etc) and I can tell you that there are some extreme lengths that get taken to ensure proper function in said systems... including a myriad of redundancy, double and triple checks at the hardware level, but when accuracy counts, its needed...

but for goodness sake, we are mostly talking gaming computers here, some folders and miners and maybe a few who use their system professionally, so for most here yeah, a quick run of IBT AVX on very high is good... sometimes it isn't good enough... sometimes its the operator not knowing how to interpret the results... yes IBT AVX will give false positives and even false fails (the old linepack stopped unexpectedly error)... Those who fold, mine, or use their systems for some profession where accuracy counts... well they will need much more drastic measures to ensure the most accurate results...

BTW... crashes do NOT always mean your system is unstable!!!! there are things call conflicts... software, IRQ... blah blah blah... the simple test is to go back to stock and see what happens when you change nothing else.... heck I have a piece of software at work that doesn't like 8:00 AM or 12:00 am... IDK why, but the thing will crash every time you try to use it at those times... even the manufacture can't explain it....
Edited by Minotaurtoo - 6/1/15 at 2:21am
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Well, I used IBT for 20 passes on very high to test my 4.9GHz overclock, and the only crashing I ever see, is in Dirt Rally.... when I take a turn too fast and run off the road. tongue.gif
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If you are crashing doing that, you need to think about Throttling. biggrin.gif
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If you are crashing doing that, you need to think about Throttling. biggrin.gif
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My brother actually is complaining about his game doing the micro stutters when he's driving on the gutters. That's at unstable 4.8 on my old chip. Now, he's saying things are running better. IBT 50 Passes at 4.9!

His game, a famous street racing game installment that is 30FPS! limited! headscratch.gif
Edited by mus1mus - 6/1/15 at 5:36am
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I dunno why any racing game would be 30FPS capped, that makes no sense, unless they want it to be more cinematic or something.

iRacing and Dirt Rally are both running perfect in corssfire for me right now.
Wife and myself have become addicted to racing sims, like, literally in a few days time. lol
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IRacing..... Back in 1996 an outfit called Papyrus came out with a NASCAR racing game. They owned that scene until 2004 when EA bought the NASCAR sponsorship. Papyrus went under and then came back as IRacing.

In 1998 Papyrus came out with a Formula 1 simulator called Grand Prix Legends. It used their upgraded physics with all the filters to make it driveable turned off. It's the real deal. Novices touch the gas ans spin. They touch the brakes and spin. Compared to modern games the tire model is too stiff and the aerodynamics is off, but it is the first game to have native 4 core CPU support and still rocks. I can't drive it anymore because my eyes are too old and can't maintain the needed focus any more, so retired.

Now you have me looking at GT Legends and GTR2. Maybe I can still handle a Mini or a TR4.
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Well, I used IBT for 20 passes on very high to test my 4.9GHz overclock, and the only crashing I ever see, is in Dirt Rally.... when I take a turn too fast and run off the road. tongue.gif
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If you are crashing doing that, you need to think about Throttling. biggrin.gif

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and remove turbo.
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I need to download/try out that Dirty Rally looks pretty Sick.
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Me too, I like the way it looks. I watched a little game play on youtube and I think I'm gonna get it. wink.gif
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