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That looks like a monter in the making. Good luck with the build. I'm sure 12 threads will be plenty for minecraft. biggrin.gif

Will be bottlenecked by Chrome though. tongue.gif

If you stay below 2 tabs you should be just fine. yessir.gif

You knew noone does that in tuhday's demanding world. lachen.gif
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Good one @KyadCK

We only need to wait for proper support for the card.

I think everyone fell in love with how Maxwell clocks but neglects the fact that nVidia pulled down (intentionally!) what the cards can do to promote the so-called efficiency figures on their 900 series cards.

I'll be able to bench a little bit soon enough, don't worry.

Perfect then. 980TI here. But my library is limited. mad.gif

Thats fine, I'm going to play dirty and get Mantle involved anyway. wink.gif

Also my Fury will be bringing a friend... That would also be unfair.

That's called cheating! biggrin.gif

Mantle is also a missing part of the reviews ain't it?

Ya, which is weird. Maybe it won't get mantle support until the next driver set?

Anyway, I'll be mounting the rads to the front, where my drive cage used to be. Should be interesting to see two side by side like that.

Or go straight for DX12. I guess R&D spent their time developing a driver to separate the 39X series from the 29X cards rather than fed up the Fury. rolleyes.gif

It sure will look interesting. Just maybe, be prepared for this:

3DGuru disagrees very strongly. Also the Rad can't be 60C+ unless the card is 60C+, so I call shenanigans.

If the 295X2 can work on one 120mm rad, a Fury X will have no issue. Period.
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Fixed it.

Remember the minor fact AMD dropped a double-8 and VRMs capable of 400 Amps on these card, all while only hitting 50C at stock. These things will probably chug voltage down like a PD chip if you want it to, they're built like a baby Lightning.

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I guess we'll have to wait and see. I do suspect that the "average" user will never be able to leverage that power from the card though. Don't get me wrong, I'm an AMD fan, I really am but "IF" that power is readily available why would they come in just behind NVidia AGAIN. Do they have a Secret Fury XXX in the wings??

OCN doesn't care about average. The average can't OC at all.

And power consumption. Voltage increases power exponentially. To get a 1200Mhz Fury X at "stock" would probably have been a 350w card, and that, for a 15% perf gain, is not good for reviews. "Oh look, another AMD power guzzler".

And there is no "if", the power delivery and cooling capacity have been long confirmed. They didn't put an AP-29 on it for no reason. The only thing that will hold them back is the Core itself.
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That's kind of what I meant, most people aren't willing to mod the card to open up restrictions on volts and power. The sales of components in the enthusiast market isn't where the majority of the money is. The people with the cash who buy the latest for gaming or what not just want the fastest card that they can plug in to their PC. I have no doubt that in the right hands that card "could" be a monster but the same can be said for the Ti. Just, In my opinion Nvidia came out on top in this round.
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In my opinion, nVidia people not only makes good cards but were also marketing geniuses.

They designed their cards to be capable of certain 1. speed target. Assigned different clocks per certain 2.P-States.

Defined a base clock lower than the intended 1. speed target.

Call the designed clock speed "boost clock".

Put a power limit to the boost clock so when it hits the limit, it will clock lower. That by their definition, the card doesn't throttle down. But staying away from boost clock to their so-called base clock.

We all know that when we OC, we base the numbers off the base clock and that gives a huge number or percentage.

While AMD cards throttles (which sounds bad). Simply because they can no longer use the boost scheme that nVidia proprietorized.

But both the cards do the same thing!
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That's kind of what I meant, most people aren't willing to mod the card to open up restrictions on volts and power. The sales of components in the enthusiast market isn't where the majority of the money is. The people with the cash who buy the latest for gaming or what not just want the fastest card that they can plug in to their PC. I have no doubt that in the right hands that card "could" be a monster but the same can be said for the Ti. Just, In my opinion Nvidia came out on top in this round.

The fact than an AMD card is even competing for top spot again is encouraging... mostly its been accepted lately that if you want a monster card Titan rules... now finally AMD has something that at least at stock clocks can pull slightly ahead at 4k resolution... that to me is impressive... last time something from AMD new and impressive like this happened was the 5970... well.. this might not be that impressive lol.... but at least AMD is making a run again for "fastest gpu" the old 5970 was described as : "The AMD ATI Radeon HD 5970 is without doubt the single fastest graphics card on the planet." by one reviewer...
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Yeah but I don't think they truly went for it. It's a hell of a lot better than all the hype for BD and what was released I can tell you that. AMD needs money badly and I just thought they would've put it ALL out there o get the fastest card but they didn't IMO. I really want them to stick around. Now if they can do the same with ZEN and make it easily clockable then they'll have some momentum but I just worry. You would have thought with all the hype that FuryX would have been a crusher but it just keeps up barely and in many places falls behind. I mean marketing is great but you really do have to follow through.
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Yeah but I don't think they truly went for it. It's a hell of a lot better than all the hype for BD and what was released I can tell you that. AMD needs money badly and I just thought they would've put it ALL out there o get the fastest card but they didn't IMO. I really want them to stick around. Now if they can do the same with ZEN and make it easily clockable then they'll have some momentum but I just worry. You would have thought with all the hype that FuryX would have been a crusher but it just keeps up barely and in many places falls behind. I mean marketing is great but you really do have to follow through.

This. I am looking at this from the Silicon Era, AMD is similar to Ford. They made engineering the thing for awhile, sort of like an assembly line for everyone to steal their ideas from.
I bought all of my current AMD gear straight from the millennia mentality. It was when I was introduced to self builds, so now while reliable, will never be the fastest. Probably ever I think.
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Yeah but I don't think they truly went for it. It's a hell of a lot better than all the hype for BD and what was released I can tell you that. AMD needs money badly and I just thought they would've put it ALL out there o get the fastest card but they didn't IMO. I really want them to stick around. Now if they can do the same with ZEN and make it easily clockable then they'll have some momentum but I just worry. You would have thought with all the hype that FuryX would have been a crusher but it just keeps up barely and in many places falls behind. I mean marketing is great but you really do have to follow through.

lots of people say they will "unlock" the voltage on it later... but my cards never were unlocked... I had to mod the bios to choose the voltages I wanted... maybe its that simple with fury... If AMD is reading this thread and wants me to try and post results they can send me one wink.gif fat chance of that happening, but boy I'd be happy to try lol
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The Fury X, IMO, doesn't live completely up to it's hype. But I would say it's still a good product. The fact we're finally seeing something AMD beating NVIDIA's 980/970 by a good margin (with more efficiency) and competing (beating/losing) with the 980Ti and Titan X is encouraging. At the MSRP price I would say it's a great deal for new tech and even better for AMD fans. I personally will skip it though. 4GB does not seem like it will last in the long run. Arctic Islands it is for me and Zen/Zen+. I am really interested in how the Fury X will perform with AMD's long awaited drivers arrive and how it will age like Hawaii chips.
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Yeah but I don't think they truly went for it. It's a hell of a lot better than all the hype for BD and what was released I can tell you that. AMD needs money badly and I just thought they would've put it ALL out there o get the fastest card but they didn't IMO. I really want them to stick around. Now if they can do the same with ZEN and make it easily clockable then they'll have some momentum but I just worry. You would have thought with all the hype that FuryX would have been a crusher but it just keeps up barely and in many places falls behind. I mean marketing is great but you really do have to follow through.

This. I am looking at this from the Silicon Era, AMD is similar to Ford. They made engineering the thing for awhile, sort of like an assembly line for everyone to steal their ideas from.
I bought all of my current AMD gear straight from the millennia mentality. It was when I was introduced to self builds, so now while reliable, will never be the fastest. Probably ever I think.

I like that analogy, really it's almost spot on. AMD had their hayday but for the las while they have been losing badly.
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Yeah but I don't think they truly went for it. It's a hell of a lot better than all the hype for BD and what was released I can tell you that. AMD needs money badly and I just thought they would've put it ALL out there o get the fastest card but they didn't IMO. I really want them to stick around. Now if they can do the same with ZEN and make it easily clockable then they'll have some momentum but I just worry. You would have thought with all the hype that FuryX would have been a crusher but it just keeps up barely and in many places falls behind. I mean marketing is great but you really do have to follow through.

lots of people say they will "unlock" the voltage on it later... but my cards never were unlocked... I had to mod the bios to choose the voltages I wanted... maybe its that simple with fury... If AMD is reading this thread and wants me to try and post results they can send me one wink.gif fat chance of that happening, but boy I'd be happy to try lol

There's no doubt that I'll likely pick one up sometime but not now. I enjoy putting the screws to everything and anything red,blue,green they're all the same. Take a look at this , it's h90 o stock volts with my cpu at 4.7 and it just kicked the poo out of the 290x after all the work I did earlier this week. It just came back from RMA for a bad BIOS chip http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5212292
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