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Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

That is one hell of a voltage, just shows how AMD chips are wonderfully resilient.
Thuban are fast but Vishera have slightly higher IPC and definitely higher IPS due to much higher clocks. In the case of SC2 for example a Thuban might be better thanks to x87 runs in legacy mode.

Actually thuban's IPC at 4GHz matches vishera's at around 4.7.....

I tested this with CB11.5 and 15 myself using the single core test.
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Actually thuban's IPC at 4GHz matches vishera's at around 4.7.....

I tested this with CB11.5 and 15 myself using the single core test.

I've seen test showing otherwise.

You have one hell of a CPU by the way.

Does that 2600 NB make a difference?
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Actually thuban's IPC at 4GHz matches vishera's at around 4.7.....

I tested this with CB11.5 and 15 myself using the single core test.

I've seen test showing otherwise.

You have one hell of a CPU by the way.

Does that 2600 NB make a difference?

Agent smith is correct the Thuban does have a much better IPC than the FX . Here's a couple subs to show the difference.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2881582_johan45_cinebench___r11.5_phenom_ii_x6_1090t_be_9.35_points

Here's the FX 6350 at about the same speed
http://hwbot.org/submission/2420832_johan45_cinebench___r11.5_fx_6350_6.85_points/

And here's the 6350 at 1.2G faster than the thuban. and it still can't keep up.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2809989_johan45_cinebench___r11.5_fx_6350_8.38_points/
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Agent smith is correct the Thuban does have a much better IPC than the FX . Here's a couple subs to show the difference.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2881582_johan45_cinebench___r11.5_phenom_ii_x6_1090t_be_9.35_points

Here's the FX 6350 at about the same speed
http://hwbot.org/submission/2420832_johan45_cinebench___r11.5_fx_6350_6.85_points/

And here's the 6350 at 1.2G faster than the thuban. and it still can't keep up.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2809989_johan45_cinebench___r11.5_fx_6350_8.38_points/

Cinebench 11.5 is unreliable due to the way it discriminates against the BD uArch.

15 Is more reliable.
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Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

I've seen test showing otherwise.

You have one hell of a CPU by the way.

Does that 2600 NB make a difference?

Nothing ground breaking, but it does help. Wish it had the same impact it did on thuban, but thuban's NB impact was more the result of an IMC bottleneck, whereas vishera's IMC is much better and doesn't necessarily need the help.

I needed to raise the NB to get the RAM to 2400 anyways, and since it was going to take a tad more voltage, I figured I may as well push it.
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Now I need to see how car I can OC the RAM because so far I haven't had much luck but then the 955 I had hated FSB OC and then I was waiting for my H220-X so I was always lazy.

Next purchase is a 290 then I guess I'll be set for a good while.
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Agent smith is correct the Thuban does have a much better IPC than the FX . Here's a couple subs to show the difference.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2881582_johan45_cinebench___r11.5_phenom_ii_x6_1090t_be_9.35_points

Here's the FX 6350 at about the same speed
http://hwbot.org/submission/2420832_johan45_cinebench___r11.5_fx_6350_6.85_points/

And here's the 6350 at 1.2G faster than the thuban. and it still can't keep up.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2809989_johan45_cinebench___r11.5_fx_6350_8.38_points/

Cinebench 11.5 is unreliable due to the way it discriminates against the BD uArch.

15 Is more reliable.

OK here's R15, the only time the FX beats the Thuban is when the FX can take advantage of newer instructions.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2881583_johan45_cinebench___r15_phenom_ii_x6_1090t_be_797_cb
http://hwbot.org/submission/2809993_johan45_cinebench___r15_fx_6350_767_cb
http://hwbot.org/submission/2510879_johan45_cinebench___r15_fx_6350_673_cb/
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I think in the case of R 15 the difference was around 400 MHz Vishera vs Thuban from what I remember when I tried it.

This seems to suggest that may be close -
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431032/top-cinebench-r15-cpu-scores
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That is interesting but it's obvious that not all Thubans can clock well and many were stuck on sub 4GHz clocks.
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I think in the case of R 15 the difference was around 400 MHz Vishera vs Thuban from what I remember when I tried it.

This seems to suggest that may be close -
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431032/top-cinebench-r15-cpu-scores

That's what I was thinking, a 10% difference at best but this is Cinebench only. When gaming the advantage goes to Vishera, not just due to higher clock speed but also due to more thread counts in the case of the 83xx's.
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