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Yes , passmark is free.

The FX does very well on passmark , obviously , it is a terrible benchmark rolleyes.gif

I see what you did there.... wink.gif

Here you go, in the beta section

http://hwbot.org/benchmarks
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Believe it or not, I been hearing/reading the name PassMark for years, and have never once downloaded and ran that bench....

There's a first time for everything.

I will run this evening and see how it goes.

I will test at my milder 4.8 (summer clocks)
And then push to my 4.9 settings and see the difference.

This may be a good benchmark to help me tune everything a little better with FSB/NB/RAM etc....
I haven't had a good benchmark with some clearly graphed numbers in front of me to see what is helping in what is hurting in different areas, so this just may be the ticket.

Does this bench push the CPU well enough to find major instabilities, so that once I'm dialed in performance wise, I can get stability sorted afterwards, or is the bench too lightweight to count on?
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Very surprising to see Corsair using Nanya on what is supposedly their premium grade RAM. But I guess companies will do anything to price gouge their products and to improve profit margins.


Yes but their heat spreaders look awesome!
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Too Light.
You can bench maybe 2 Multi steps from your Stable OC without changing the Voltages.

It detected something wrong on my X99 though. Physics and RAM scoring too low.
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Too Light.
You can bench maybe 2 Multi steps from your Stable OC without changing the Voltages.

It detected something wrong on my X99 though. Physics and RAM scoring too low.

Well, I've noticed that almost all benchmarks will show signs of something "wrong" with my FX-8...

For example... I know I'm perfectly stable at 4.8GHz with 1.4v.... I can bump it up to 4.9 and complete benches at the same voltage, but the scores are actually lower than just using 4.8.

Does this on all of the Futuremark stuff, and on Cinebench tests. However, I can add the appropriate voltage and the scores shoot right up where they are supposed to be.

It's why I don't usually do a lot of bench runs at 5GHz.... even though I can get through them just fine, it seems to do no better than using my 4.9 stable settings.

I have given a heavy 1.5v voltage dosage before though, and the 5GHz benches look great, but the damn board gets too hold to keep it there.
I'd imagine if it weren't for the socket and VRM's temps getting so hot, I'd be able to run at those settings, as my CPU cooler itself seems to keep everything under 70c with that kind of voltage.
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Very surprising to see Corsair using Nanya on what is supposedly their premium grade RAM. But I guess companies will do anything to price gouge their products and to improve profit margins.


Yes but their heat spreaders look awesome!
Heatspreaders are pointless on DDR3 anyways. Even with all four slots on my board populated, so its quiet dense, 1.8V (for benching purposes) @ 2200MHz + CL9 they never get modestly warm to the touch. And 24/7 operations at my more modest 2020 9-9-10-24 are even cooler. Why would you fancy swanky heat spreaders for DDR 3 if not for looks only.

IMO the naked black PCB's of Geil's Black Dragon range with the painted golden dragon on the PCB's are the sexiest looking RAM sticks to date.
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Well, I've noticed that almost all benchmarks will show signs of something "wrong" with my FX-8...

For example... I know I'm perfectly stable at 4.8GHz with 1.4v.... I can bump it up to 4.9 and complete benches at the same voltage, but the scores are actually lower than just using 4.8.

Does this on all of the Futuremark stuff, and on Cinebench tests. However, I can add the appropriate voltage and the scores shoot right up where they are supposed to be.

It's why I don't usually do a lot of bench runs at 5GHz.... even though I can get through them just fine, it seems to do no better than using my 4.9 stable settings.

I have given a heavy 1.5v voltage dosage before though, and the 5GHz benches look great, but the damn board gets too hold to keep it there.
I'd imagine if it weren't for the socket and VRM's temps getting so hot, I'd be able to run at those settings, as my CPU cooler itself seems to keep everything under 70c with that kind of voltage.

The lower score can pretty much be an effect of the ff.

1. Voltage wall - happens somewhere 4.8 and above. The required voltage to stabilize the next multi being too huge to destabilise it from the same voltage of the previous clock multi.

2. Board suffering from supplying the chip with higher power demand of the higher clock. Even if you didnt increase the voltage, overclocking to the next step will require a higher current demand due to the faster on-off switching of the processor.

3. Unstable OC will tend to produce errors on the tests that results to a longer process due to error correction.

When I do my benches at say, 5.5 I have to overvolt to crazy voltages. I am pretty much dialing it just below my system's shutdown levels. biggrin.gif
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Ok so I noticed something last night I had been having issues with call of duty advanced warfare zombies taking forever to load the map and lagging extremely bad during the first three minutes after getting in the map...so I thought lemme check my temps....I established about five months ago that all the call of duty titles run the cpu really hot when loading a map but I wasn't prepared for what I saw...core was nearly 80c while loading the map...but here's the interesting part socket temps were at 63c...the processor wasnt downclocking but it was running very hot....Ok so I decided to drop my overclock two steps to 4.6 and see what happens...so then the temps stayed below 70c but were toeing the line...the map loaded slightly faster down from about 4 minutes to around 3...but it stays at those high temps until about 2 minutes of unplayable laggy slideshow greatness then magically lag goes away and temps never break 55c...

Game is loaded from ssd getting around 500mbps as advertised...just seems screwy because even ibt avx doesnt run the cpu that hot...I get max of 62c running the same overclock with ac off...that's nearly 18c difference from one of the hottest benches to loading an 800mb map...before anyone asks this it's with preload shaders off and fill excess memory on.

To put it into perspective I can load witcher 3 in about 15 seconds with no excessive load on cpu from the same ssd...
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The lower score can pretty much be an effect of the ff.

1. Voltage wall - happens somewhere 4.8 and above. The required voltage to stabilize the next multi being too huge to destabilise it from the same voltage of the previous clock multi.

2. Board suffering from supplying the chip with higher power demand of the higher clock. Even if you didnt increase the voltage, overclocking to the next step will require a higher current demand due to the faster on-off switching of the processor.

3. Unstable OC will tend to produce errors on the tests that results to a longer process due to error correction.

When I do my benches at say, 5.5 I have to overvolt to crazy voltages. I am pretty much dialing it just below my system's shutdown levels. biggrin.gif

I find that performance issues with apps/games related to bad OC's are generally related to the error corrections, and are an indication you are FAR from stability....

While poor benchmark results are often tied to the voltage AND the errors.

I believe it's because an app or game will not test the CPU to it's full load, so the voltage never reveals itself as a factor since there is still enough voltage supplied to allow additional amperage at varying loads.
On the other hand, benchmarks will heavily load the CPU, and reveal voltage issues immediately.
Even if it completes a benchmark at a less than stable voltage, the amperage draw needed is higher than the voltage will allow for error-free calculations. In tern the error correction slows things drastically.

The only way to fix the issue is with more voltage, but as you say, these chips do hit voltage walls....
In my case, and with most typical overclockers, the thermal wall of these chips is realized long before the voltage/clock ceiling.

Looks like you are running some hefty cooling though, to be benching at 5.5 and what not thumb.gif
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I've pretty much ensured I'm stable after all the testing I ran...ibt avx 30 passes very high...prime for 18 hours error free...every free bench I could get my hands on...mci memtest to 500%...memtest overnight...encoded some video just because...all benchmarks on the games I own and no issues with any games other than cod series...anyone else have the game and can see if they see a huge spike in temps?
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