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^This. And below is what I am talking about.
You see where we are going @MTup mate?

Most kits have these btw,

  • Block - most of the time a tier or two down of the good ones. (cept for the raystorm)
  • Pump - D5 kits cost more; check the kits with the DDCs on them.
  • Bay Res - XPSC's quite good and easy to fill. Alphacool's a meh! don't bother. But you can get rid of them if you get the DDC/D5 variant. if you want a ---
  • Tube Res - XSPC has that. But AFAIK, they are hard to work with considering the routing options.
  • Fittings - Usually 3/8' X 1/2" compressions. While good, tubing is a bit small and thin walled. Prone to kinks, no matter what you pick.
  • Tubing - They're just good for.... filling the loop. Not within your loop.
  • Fans - if they come with a set. XSPC have 1600 RPM fans. Nothing special, but does the job. Alphacool has them Noise Blockers in purple. Pricey at retail (bonus?) EK kit - comes with meh.

So weigh the purchase you are about to make.
A kit for quickies and all. or you do it by the pieces picking each component you like, without a waste. thumb.gif

Ohh wait, I didn't have my recommended components biggrin.gif

Pump - D5 or DDC. Some DDCs have a built - in tops, just pick the 10W version. They are hot!
Block - whatever you like.
Fans - If you want silence, 1300RPM is Push pull will offer you enough performance. If you want moar, go for at least 1500 RPMs. Cougars are good and Cheap.
Primochill D5 Enabled Tube res as You won't need anything more.
Fittings - 3/8" X 5/8" s
Primochill tubing for leeser Plasticizer

Glad to hear you're good with the dual bay XSPC w/D5 pump reservoir because that's what I want to keep my case clear for air. I want to use the 1/2" tubing. Do I order 1/2" tubing for 1/2T X 1/4"MPT compression fitting or the 7/16". At work with stainless 1/2" is 1/2". No need for fans, I have all I need. I will look for the best prices for the quality you all recommend. I will spend money on cooling but damn if I give $500 for a graphics card....lol. I'm not a gamer this is just a hobby and my hobby wants 5GHz. I may have to get another chip to do that though. If Zen does come out then I'll probably sell this and make a Zenner. Just a bit of history, I'm older guy, building computers for 20 yrs for family and friends and oc'ing for 6 months. Also not far from retirement. You guys have been great!
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Just to note - With Soft or Flexible Tubing, you need to be aware of the Inner and Outer Diameter of the fittings. Your tubing should match that or you will have leak issues or fitting struggle.

Primochill also have some issues with tubing diameters though their specs says them in right sizes.

If you want looks, PETG Tubing is an acrylic tube rival. Easier to work with, and cheaper. Well, at least I bought them in 30" lengths.
Edited by mus1mus - 7/16/15 at 7:35pm
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Just to note - With Soft or Flexible Tubing, you need to be aware of the Inner and Outer Diameter of the fittings. Your tubing should match that or you will have leak issues or fitting struggle.

Primochill also have some issues with tubing diameters though their specs says them in right sizes.

If you want looks, PETG Tubing is an acrylic tube rival. Easier to work with, and cheaper. Well, at least I bought them in 30" lengths.

I won't need anything soft I don't think if I run my tubing to length and not add extra. That is a good note though. I see where you are coming from and I was hoping to get tubing and fitting from the same place. I guess I would be depending on the vender to give me the right stuff. Best thing to do is call or contact them. Nice tip mus1.
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And the D5 EX240 kit is $250......

That's my point, it's a little more price wise but better performance wise.

And when it comes right down to it, it's better to have patience, save money, and get the good stuff!

I know about waiting, I have a CaseLabs SM8, it only took two weeks when I bought it biggrin.gif , it seemed like forever!

Now these guys are waiting as much as two months!
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I'm going with this setup Mike. Cutting a bit lengthwise is so much easier than cutting more out of the sides as I would have to do with the Swiftech. Go Scott Walker.

That's right!

Are you from Wisconsin?
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And when it comes right down to it, it's better to have patience, save money, and get the good stuff!

I know about waiting, I have a CaseLabs SM8, it only took two weeks when I bought it biggrin.gif , it seemed like forever!

Now these guys are waiting as much as two months!

I've got the money but don't want to buy something that won't work. I know I'm buying the radiator, block and pump. The fittings and tubing will have to be investigated (as the government would say). I can wait but after ordering, you are right there's some anxiety working. BTW Mike are you still using your H220X? With that case I'd say you were a server.
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That's right!

Are you from Wisconsin?

Louisiana deep south.
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I won't need anything soft I don't think if I run my tubing to length and not add extra. That is a good note though. I see where you are coming from and I was hoping to get tubing and fitting from the same place. I guess I would be depending on the vender to give me the right stuff. Best thing to do is call or contact them. Nice tip mus1.

biggrin.gif Soft Tubing = Flexible tubing. Kind of a definition given to easily differentiate from Hard Tubing i.e. Copper Tubes, Acrylic and PETG.
Soft Tubing (Click to show)
Hard Tubing (Click to show)

Like I said, it has been known that smaller diameter soft tubing are prone to kinks due to their thin walls.
Thick walled soft tubing can be bent tighter without kinking. But means the fittings are bigger.
Kinky is she? :D (Click to show)

And ohh, one can't simply get away with that. Thus Angled fittings can be very useful to keep it clean. you might wanna consider that. While Hard Tubing can easily get away with that issue. And the possibilities of not having to use angled fittings at all can be had if you have the imagination to work on the routing. thumb.gif
Sample (Click to show)

Exciting hobby isn't it? biggrin.gif
Edited by mus1mus - 7/16/15 at 8:51pm
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I've got the money but don't want to buy something that won't work. I know I'm buying the radiator, block and pump. The fittings and tubing will have to be investigated (as the government would say). I can wait but after ordering, you are right there's some anxiety working. BTW Mike are you still using your H220X? With that case I'd say you were a server.

Not any more, I switched to a full blown custom loop

D5 pump, 2x 480 rads, 1x 360 rad, 1 x 240 rad, all with Noctua NF-F12's, all EK XTX series rads

EK Supremacy EVO, EK full board block, 2 x Aquacomputer 290x Water blocks with Active Back Plate, Primochill Advanced LRT tubing, lots & lots of Bitspower Black Sparkle fittings

No server, just an every day rider lachen.gif
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I've got the money but don't want to buy something that won't work. I know I'm buying the radiator, block and pump. The fittings and tubing will have to be investigated (as the government would say). I can wait but after ordering, you are right there's some anxiety working. BTW Mike are you still using your H220X? With that case I'd say you were a server.

Not any more, I switched to a full blown custom loop

D5 pump, 2x 480 rads, 1x 360 rad, 1 x 240 rad, all with Noctua NF-F12's, all EK XTX series rads

EK Supremacy EVO, EK full board block, 2 x Aquacomputer 290x Water blocks with Active Back Plate, Primochill Advanced LRT tubing, lots & lots of Bitspower Black Sparkle fittings

No server, just an every day rider lachen.gif

Killin' it Mikee! drool.gif

Thought the CL is still in transit. rolleyes.gif
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