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@Alistair

I have just built a 6300 rig for a customer who wanted to update his old 3 core AMD kit,

I went for a Seidon 120 instead of a 212 evo as it was only a few pounds more...see

http://www.cclonline.com/product/164599/RL-S12V-24PK-R2/CPU-Coolers/Cooler-Master-Seidon-120V-V2-CPU-Liquid-Cooler-Kit/CLR0852/

but used his old case, mobo and power supply and ram.

He was extremely happy with the results

I did advise him to update his graphics card which when he bought it ( a R9-250 ) I fitted free.

As you already have the graphics cards and most of the other bits I can recommend the 6300 as a good upgrade.

Unfortunately, like you, I know bugger all about the A10 but I'm sure someone here can advise you
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Hey guys. I wanted your opinions on a new rig I am planning for my parents. I also want it to double as a back up rig for me if my main goes down for maintenance or whatever reason. I have two rigs planned. And wanted your input. My parents budget is around ZAR 6000. I decided to sell them my HD 6850's simply so that I can still tinker with them occasionally. They are fun to chase HW Bot Hardware awards with. tongue.gif Also I get to make some of the money back on them so I can put it to new GPU's.

I have two rigs planned. One based on FX6300 and the other based on an A10 7700K. I am leaning to the FX 6 but mainly cause I simply have experience with FX. But I would like anyone who owns Kaviri to input their experience.

So FX Based.

FX-6300
MSI 990FXA-GD65
Crucial Ballistics Tactical 1866 CL10 4GB x 2
2 x MSI R6850 Cyclone Power Edition's (My current GPU's getting retired.)
Corsair VS650
And a Hyper 212 Evo class cooler (What would be best? I know Hyper 212 isn't the king of the budget heap these days. Who is it then?)

And APU Based

AMD A10 7700K
MSI A88X-E45
Crucial Ballistics Tactical 1866 CL10 4GB x 2
2 x MSI R6850 Cyclone Power Edition's (My current GPU's getting retired.)
Corsair VS650
And a Hyper 212 Evo class cooler

They have the rest of the stuff they need like Windows and HDD's and cases and stuff. Its just my moms old machine is an E2200 on an old ECS Elite Group G41 motherboard with 2.5GB of RAM. And its getting very old.

I feel like either of these rigs would blow my parents away. And I know the capability of my 6850's. They should still be alright for back up gaming, as they still play most titles at 1080p at still decent detail levels. Besides my parents use a 19inch 1440*900 screen so those GPU's won't be getting all that taxed at all.

Cooler wise take a look at the Cryorig H7 if you can get it there, it's a few bucks more than the 212 here but a much nicer cooler smile.gif

APU wise if you are always going to use a dGPU take a look at the 760k or 860k, they clock better (treat them much like an FX tbh but Steamroller hits a wall around 4.7Ghz that's a pita to climb over redface.gif )

i have a 7850k on a 120mm AIO and i can run it at 4.5Ghz daily with ease.

The 6300 on the other hand....well i ran 4.5Ghz on mine daily with the 125w AMD cooler tongue.gif
either way it'll be enough, if you are into HWBot though then i'd suggest the APU, just because they are crazy fun to play with and you'll learn something new.

tbh neither one is better than the other imo, i have a friend currently making up a video benching a 6300 against a 860k clocked at 4.0 each just to show some differences though if that'd interest you?

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@Alistair

I have just built a 6300 rig for a customer who wanted to update his old 3 core AMD kit,

I went for a Seidon 120 instead of a 212 evo as it was only a few pounds more...see

http://www.cclonline.com/product/164599/RL-S12V-24PK-R2/CPU-Coolers/Cooler-Master-Seidon-120V-V2-CPU-Liquid-Cooler-Kit/CLR0852/

but used his old case, mobo and power supply and ram.

He was extremely happy with the results

I did advise him to update his graphics card which when he bought it ( a R9-250 ) I fitted free.

As you already have the graphics cards and most of the other bits I can recommend the 6300 as a good upgrade.

Unfortunately, like you, I know bugger all about the A10 but I'm sure someone here can advise you
Thank you both of you. Yes sarge I would love to see that video. It's just I know the FX-6 has more cores but I know the APU is a bit faster on the single threaded side. So yeah. I will have a look for Athlon based CPU's i all but totally forgot about them! Thank you both. +rep
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Hey guys. I wanted your opinions on a new rig I am planning for my parents. I also want it to double as a back up rig for me if my main goes down for maintenance or whatever reason. I have two rigs planned. And wanted your input. My parents budget is around ZAR 6000. I decided to sell them my HD 6850's simply so that I can still tinker with them occasionally. They are fun to chase HW Bot Hardware awards with. tongue.gif Also I get to make some of the money back on them so I can put it to new GPU's.

I have two rigs planned. One based on FX6300 and the other based on an A10 7700K. I am leaning to the FX 6 but mainly cause I simply have experience with FX. But I would like anyone who owns Kaviri to input their experience.

So FX Based.

FX-6300
MSI 990FXA-GD65
Crucial Ballistics Tactical 1866 CL10 4GB x 2
2 x MSI R6850 Cyclone Power Edition's (My current GPU's getting retired.)
Corsair VS650
And a Hyper 212 Evo class cooler (What would be best? I know Hyper 212 isn't the king of the budget heap these days. Who is it then?)

And APU Based

AMD A10 7700K
MSI A88X-E45
Crucial Ballistics Tactical 1866 CL10 4GB x 2
2 x MSI R6850 Cyclone Power Edition's (My current GPU's getting retired.)
Corsair VS650
And a Hyper 212 Evo class cooler

They have the rest of the stuff they need like Windows and HDD's and cases and stuff. Its just my moms old machine is an E2200 on an old ECS Elite Group G41 motherboard with 2.5GB of RAM. And its getting very old.

I feel like either of these rigs would blow my parents away. And I know the capability of my 6850's. They should still be alright for back up gaming, as they still play most titles at 1080p at still decent detail levels. Besides my parents use a 19inch 1440*900 screen so those GPU's won't be getting all that taxed at all.

Cooler wise take a look at the Cryorig H7 if you can get it there, it's a few bucks more than the 212 here but a much nicer cooler smile.gif

APU wise if you are always going to use a dGPU take a look at the 760k or 860k, they clock better (treat them much like an FX tbh but Steamroller hits a wall around 4.7Ghz that's a pita to climb over redface.gif )

i have a 7850k on a 120mm AIO and i can run it at 4.5Ghz daily with ease.

The 6300 on the other hand....well i ran 4.5Ghz on mine daily with the 125w AMD cooler tongue.gif
either way it'll be enough, if you are into HWBot though then i'd suggest the APU, just because they are crazy fun to play with and you'll learn something new.

tbh neither one is better than the other imo, i have a friend currently making up a video benching a 6300 against a 860k clocked at 4.0 each just to show some differences though if that'd interest you?

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@Alistair

I have just built a 6300 rig for a customer who wanted to update his old 3 core AMD kit,

I went for a Seidon 120 instead of a 212 evo as it was only a few pounds more...see

http://www.cclonline.com/product/164599/RL-S12V-24PK-R2/CPU-Coolers/Cooler-Master-Seidon-120V-V2-CPU-Liquid-Cooler-Kit/CLR0852/

but used his old case, mobo and power supply and ram.

He was extremely happy with the results

I did advise him to update his graphics card which when he bought it ( a R9-250 ) I fitted free.

As you already have the graphics cards and most of the other bits I can recommend the 6300 as a good upgrade.

Unfortunately, like you, I know bugger all about the A10 but I'm sure someone here can advise you
Thank you both of you. Yes sarge I would love to see that video. It's just I know the FX-6 has more cores but I know the APU is a bit faster on the single threaded side. So yeah. I will have a look for Athlon based CPU's i all but totally forgot about them! Thank you both. +rep

Alrighty, i'll give you a link when it's done and it goes up.

It is an interesting position to be sure.....I'm actually messing about with a A6-5400k (Dual core) atm otherwise i'd do some benches for you with Kaveri
 
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Cyorig doesn't seem to be available in South Africa. And we also do not seem to have any FM2+ Athlon CPU's either believe it or not ! mad.gif
So here are my choices.
The obvious choice. Cooler Master Hyper 212X ZAR 451
Deepcool Ice Warrior ZAR 223
Deepcool IceBlade Pro V2.0 ZAR 401
Deepcool Gammaxx 300 ZAR 265
Deepcool Gammaxx 400 ZAR 284
Deepcool Gammaxx S40 ZAR 364
Deepcool Neptwin ZAR 487
Derepcool Gamerstorm Lucifer ZAR 492
Deepcool Frost Twin ZAR 401
Zalman CNPS10X ZAR 379
Zalman CNPS10X Optima ZAR 360
Arctic Freezer A30 ZAR 413
CoolerMaster Hyper T4 ZAR 410
Arctic Freezer Xtreme rev.2 ZAR 466

Edit I added their South African Prices
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Cyorig doesn't seem to be available in South Africa. And we also do not seem to have any FM2+ Athlon CPU's either believe it or not ! mad.gif
So here are my choices.
The obvious choice. Cooler Master Hyper 212X ZAR 451
Deepcool Ice Warrior ZAR 223
Deepcool IceBlade Pro V2.0 ZAR 401
Deepcool Gammaxx 300 ZAR 265
Deepcool Gammaxx 400 ZAR 284
Deepcool Gammaxx S40 ZAR 364
Deepcool Neptwin ZAR 487
Derepcool Gamerstorm Lucifer ZAR 492
Deepcool Frost Twin ZAR 401
Zalman CNPS10X ZAR 379
Zalman CNPS10X Optima ZAR 360
Arctic Freezer A30 ZAR 413
CoolerMaster Hyper T4 ZAR 410
Arctic Freezer Xtreme rev.2 ZAR 466

Edit I added their South African Prices

I'm sure there was someone in this thread that had a Arctic Freezer A30 and they said it was pretty damn good, better than the 212 iirc

i only have experience with the 212X out of that list and i will say it surprised me....not a bad cooler if i'm honest.

No Athlons is kind of sucky...... well the 7700k is a good option if you aren't worried about the iGPU cores (7700k having less than the 7850k for example).
 
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I have used the AC A30. It took my 8350 to 4.5 on the UD3 and 4.6 on the GD80. Now it is sitting on an A10 6850K @ 4.4 ghz. Compared to the 212 I messed with the A30 has a much better mounting system, more fin area, a better fan, and it uses 4-8mm heat pipes VS 4-6mm heat pipes in the 212.

I have heard good things about the big Gamaxx coolers. The smaller ones not so much. Dunno about the others.

The Zalman coolers have a tricky mounting system IIRC involving bolts that are almost but not quite maybe too short.

No FM2+? Bummer. IMHO if you aren't going for 5 ghz that is the way to go.
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By process of elimination by reading various reviews. These are what I am left with.
Deepcool Neptwin ZAR 487
Deepcool IceBlade Pro V2.0 ZAR 401
Zalman CNPS10X Optima ZAR 360
Deepcool Lucifer ZAR 492
Deepcool Gammaxx 400 ZAR 284

I am really torn between the Neptwin and the Lucifer for big coolers. They are not much more than the Hyper 212 so I eliminated that.
On the cheaper side I am looking at the Zalman, Iceblade Pro and the Gammax 400.

It is very hard trying to work out Deepcool's product stack. But from the looks of it the S40 is better than the Gammax 400. Yet it seems the 400 has more fin area. But I dunno where the Iceblade fits in. Slightly higher up in the product stack?
Edited by Alastair - 7/17/15 at 9:57am
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By process of elimination by reading various reviews. These are what I am left with.
Deepcool Neptwin ZAR 487
Deepcool IceBlade Pro V2.0 ZAR 401
Zalman CNPS10X Optima ZAR 360
Deepcool Lucifer ZAR 492
Deepcool Gammaxx 400 ZAR 284

I am really torn between the Neptwin and the Lucifer for big coolers. They are not much more than the Hyper 212 so I eliminated that.
On the cheaper side I am looking at the Zalman, Iceblade Pro and the Gammax 400.

It is very hard trying to work out Deepcool's product stack. But from the looks of it the S40 is better than the Gammax 400. Yet it seems the 400 has more fin area. But I dunno where the Iceblade fits in. Slightly higher up in the product stack?

Either go for a Neptwin or the IceBlade. The Lucifer is a monstrous cooler from looking at the packaging box. But I didnt have a chance to take a look at one in person.

I remember these names when I am looking for air coolers back then. They're pretty cheap here FYI.

The Gammax are their low tier coolers.
Edited by mus1mus - 7/17/15 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by Alastair View Post

By process of elimination by reading various reviews. These are what I am left with.
Deepcool Neptwin ZAR 487
Deepcool IceBlade Pro V2.0 ZAR 401
Zalman CNPS10X Optima ZAR 360
Deepcool Lucifer ZAR 492
Deepcool Gammaxx 400 ZAR 284

I am really torn between the Neptwin and the Lucifer for big coolers. They are not much more than the Hyper 212 so I eliminated that.
On the cheaper side I am looking at the Zalman, Iceblade Pro and the Gammax 400.

It is very hard trying to work out Deepcool's product stack. But from the looks of it the S40 is better than the Gammax 400. Yet it seems the 400 has more fin area. But I dunno where the Iceblade fits in. Slightly higher up in the product stack?

Either go for a Neptwin or the IceBlade. The Lucifer is a monstrous cooler from looking at the packaging box. But I didnt have a chance to take a look at one in person.

I remember these names when I am looking for air coolers back then. They're pretty cheap here FYI.

The Gammax are their low tier coolers.
yes the Iceblade does look like a good option.

When it comes between the Lucifer and the neptwin. The lines are blurred. I know the Lucifer beats out the neptwin in physical size and the fore most likely surface area as well but I wonder if the neptwin has the advantage from being a dual tower. Albeit a 120mm dual tower.
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Hey dudes, I purchased and am downloading GTA V for the soundtrack alone. Do you have a handful of setting suggestions I can utilize?

The Components :
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On this Fatal1ty 990X motherboard that cannot sleep without losing my overclock BIOS plus refuses to wake the graphics/monitors.
Have an RMA for it, haven't budgeted anything.

I think low on RAM, however if you can tell me what to do about that, I do still have my itch in idea for a rebuild with the 4690K. I am not there mentally yet though. Looking for help with this. PTI
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