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What advantage is that giving you over this:

CPU @ 200 * 24.5 for 4.9Ghz
NB/HT 200 * 13 for 2600MHz each
DDR3 @ 2400MHz CL10

Not being sarcastic, would genuinely like to know..... may look into those settings myself if there is any reason to do so thinking.gif

Thanks thumb.gif

i thought a bit FSB gives more power from the overclock^^ that is what i read often or is it wrong?

and btw cpu failed. it just wont go over 4,8Ghz.. 4.8 is rock stable but every mhz more crashes... i could cry drool.gif
Edited by Streetdragon - 7/24/15 at 8:43am
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i thought a bit FSB gives more power from the overclock^^ that is what i read often or is it wrong?

and btw cpu failed. it just wont go over 4,8Ghz.. 4.8 is rock stable but every mhz more crashes... i could cry drool.gif

FSB increase shows gains from increasing the RAM and NB/HT speeds in some cases (when compared to ONLY increasing the CPU multi) but may or may not show gains over increasing to the same clock speeds for each item (CPU/NB/HT/RAM) using just the multiplier respectively.

Normally increasing the FSB is used for the purposes of reaching the highest clock possible when the next multi is not stable, but has also been known to help reach a multiplier-equivalent clock speed on less voltage. The last part is still debatable though...

Now as far as FSB genuinely being faster... I don't know as I've not tested, but some do say they show some gains.

I'd be very curious to see some benchmarks at your 4.9GHz settings (even though it's not stable due to heat), and compare them to mine.
Edited by Agent Smith1984 - 7/24/15 at 9:25am
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I agree with Megaman, If you look at the "data" they produce, they conveniently leave out data that does not support their junk science, In fact, if you go back to 1977 you will notice that the very same 'scientists that are now screaming "GLOBAL WARMING' are the same people who were warning us against the evils of mankind creating "global cooling' (no I am not kidding) the same scientists and foundations.
weather is 4.5 billion years old...it fluctuates.
And if you are going to tell me that it is to hot today...then you must be able to tell me what the temperature is suppose to be on a 4.5 billion old planet that we have only 120 years of climate data (or .00000037%)

...and then I agree with Mus1mus, This is not savetheplanet.org

so a offtopic.gif  to me...

A +1 to megaman...

A:rolleyess  to Hurricane...

and a thumb.gif  to Mus

.....and back to overclocking

Good to see you back Red,

I agree that its not some weather change thread or forum but i want to point out that there is a little more to it than simply ignoring the signs above us in the sky.

My aunt lives in Washington state and claims the same things as i do according the weather is not behaving normally and naturally. Shes not some scientist but she studied psychology at Berkeley University in California and has a degree in English Language so she is definitely not stupid and she is a trained researcher.

It doesn't need a scientist to see that something is wrong here and the signs are in the sky, i am not blowing this out of proportion and you can think of it as you wish but there is just too much evidence to ignore this matter.
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FSB increase shows gains from increasing the RAM and NB/HT speeds in some cases (when compared to ONLY increasing the CPU multi) but may or may not show gains over increasing to the same clock speeds for each item (CPU/NB/HT/RAM) using just the multiplier respectively.

Normally increasing the FSB is used for the purposes of reaching the highest clock possible when the next multi is not stable, but has also been known to help reach a multiplier-equivalent clock speed on less voltage. The last part is still debatable though...

Now as far as FSB genuinely being faster... I don't know as I've not tested, but some do say they show some gains.

I'd be very curious to see some benchmarks at your 4.9GHz settings (even though it's not stable due to heat), and compare them to mine.

When FSB overclocking with cool n quite enabled, your cpu will not clock down as far. Example, right now I am at 300 on the fsb clocking my cpu to 4.8 ghz, so under lite load or idle my cpu clocks down to 2107 mhz.. Without using the the fsb, and using straight multiplier, it will down clock to 1400 mhz. Using the fsb gives the feeling of being a little snappier because it isn't clocking down as far.
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When FSB overclocking with cool n quite enabled, your cpu will not clock down as far. Example, right now I am at 300 on the fsb clocking my cpu to 4.8 ghz, so under lite load or idle my cpu clocks down to 2107 mhz.. Without using the the fsb, and using straight multiplier, it will down clock to 1400 mhz. Using the fsb gives the feeling of being a little snappier because it isn't clocking down as far.

I agree with that statement 100%

desktop/general usage with FSB clocking, and CnQ, should definitely feel a bit faster.
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FSB vs. Multi:
Some boards have dead spots on the CPU NB at 200 FSB. Gigas at 2400 is an example.

So the next step is 2600 which can be a little tricky. So to reach higher CPUNB Clocks, you can experiment with FSB.

Same thing for RAM Multipliers that are not available on some boards. 2400 for one cannot be had on 200FSB. So by dialing the FSB, you can clock your desired RAM speeds.

Advantages of FSB is a little lower Memory Latency than 200 (stock) FSB keeping all clocks the same. And example is 267 for 2133 RAM.

You can dial a 4.8 GHz at 2400 CPU NB with 2133 RAM that can be a little stronger than dealing with just the Multi.

But this can be trickier to stabilize than Multi only OC.

So yeah, experiment guys.
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FSB vs. Multi:
Some boards have dead spots on the CPU NB at 200 FSB. Gigas at 2400 is an example.

So the next step is 2600 which can be a little tricky. So to reach higher CPUNB Clocks, you can experiment with FSB.

Same thing for RAM Multipliers that are not available on some boards. 2400 for one cannot be had on 200FSB. So by dialing the FSB, you can clock your desired RAM speeds.

Advantages of FSB is a little lower Memory Latency than 200 (stock) FSB keeping all clocks the same. And example is 267 for 2133 RAM.

You can dial a 4.8 GHz at 2400 CPU NB with 2133 RAM that can be a little stronger than dealing with just the Multi.

But this can be trickier to stabilize than Multi only OC.

So yeah, experiment guys.

Yeah I never had to mess with it much to get 2400RAM cause my board has the setting already.

I may give bus clocking a shot though. If anything I may look at trying to lock down 4.95GHz at a lower multi.
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FSB vs. Multi:
Some boards have dead spots on the CPU NB at 200 FSB. Gigas at 2400 is an example.

So the next step is 2600 which can be a little tricky. So to reach higher CPUNB Clocks, you can experiment with FSB.

Same thing for RAM Multipliers that are not available on some boards. 2400 for one cannot be had on 200FSB. So by dialing the FSB, you can clock your desired RAM speeds.

Advantages of FSB is a little lower Memory Latency than 200 (stock) FSB keeping all clocks the same. And example is 267 for 2133 RAM.

You can dial a 4.8 GHz at 2400 CPU NB with 2133 RAM that can be a little stronger than dealing with just the Multi.

But this can be trickier to stabilize than Multi only OC.

So yeah, experiment guys.

Yeah I never had to mess with it much to get 2400RAM cause my board has the setting already.

I may give bus clocking a shot though. If anything I may look at trying to lock down 4.95GHz at a lower multi.

My sabertooth didn't like 2400 cas 9 on FSB 200 but bumped the FSB up then set it on a lower ram multiplier and it was a lot stronger, I am not sure what link was causing the instability but it needed to have that little bump to keep up with the speed.
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To add, on 3 boards, 3 chips, FSB gave me at least a 100MHz more OC thru fine tuning.

All of my chips hate Multi. Even my 8370 only tops at 5.0GHz on Multi. 5.2 is rock stable on FSB.

One draw back really is having to do more checks on other clocks attached to the FSB.
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To add, on 3 boards, 3 chips, FSB gave me at least a 100MHz more OC thru fine tuning.

All of my chips hate Multi. Even my 8370 only tops at 5.0GHz on Multi. 5.2 is rock stable on FSB.

One draw back really is having to do more checks on other clocks attached to the FSB.

Well damn, that is really good to know.... I thought we were talking 50MHz or so higher ceiling with FSB vs multi.

This may just be what I need to get to 5GHz pal!! Of course that depends on if this motherboard will handle me tinkering with the bus....
Edited by Agent Smith1984 - 7/24/15 at 11:45am
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