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Socket hits 88C after 1 hour of prime (that's with a fan) biggrin.gif

CPU never breaks 64C though. I'd imagine I'd see better CPU temps if the bed it was laying it wasn't doubling as a crockpot! lachen.gif

Well, one more confirmation on a job well done. He gets at 1.28v, 79C CPU socket , at 4.5Ghz (assuming he is stable) on 8370E and core is at 57C. WIth a worse motherboard, but still shows the problem with ASrocks.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1566608/970m-pro3-motherboard-still-running-strong-with-8370e

Imagine if he tries to go to 1.46v like you. biggrin.gif
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Well, one more confirmation on a job well done. He gets at 1.28v, 79C CPU socket , at 4.5Ghz (assuming he is stable) on 8370E and core is at 57C. WIth a worse motherboard, but still shows the problem with ASrocks.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1566608/970m-pro3-motherboard-still-running-strong-with-8370e

Imagine if he tries to go to 1.46v like you. biggrin.gif


Can it be, that the 8370E all can reach 5Ghz without problems? 4,5Ghz with that low voltage.....
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Well, one more confirmation on a job well done. He gets at 1.28v, 79C CPU socket , at 4.5Ghz (assuming he is stable) on 8370E and core is at 57C. WIth a worse motherboard, but still shows the problem with ASrocks.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1566608/970m-pro3-motherboard-still-running-strong-with-8370e

Imagine if he tries to go to 1.46v like you. biggrin.gif


Can it be, that the 8370E all can reach 5Ghz without problems? 4,5Ghz with that low voltage.....

E chips tend to use lower voltage than the non E chips at anything below 4.8-5.0Ghz but above that they slam head first into a wall whereas the non E chips tend to push past 5.0 easier from what i've seen and heard.
I haven't decided if it's worth my money to try and get one yet rolleyes.gif
 
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Can it be, that the 8370E all can reach 5Ghz without problems? 4,5Ghz with that low voltage.....

Sarge Bilko knows better about that. The problem is: 1) 15 min of OCCT are no guarantee that it's actually stable. I have asked him 3 times to pass IBT Very High just once and instead he posted 15mins OCCT. 2) Agent Smith has 8300 which is practically also an "e" part. It's just that the 8300 was sold before the "e" came out only to OEMs. Then the "e" parts came for retail sales. So Agent Smith's CPU is also very low leak part, yet it doesn't do such clocks with so low voltage, so it's not a guarantee. It's more probable that IF he is really stable at 4.5 with 1.28v, he has a particularly good chip.
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I haven't decided if it's worth my money to try and get one yet rolleyes.gif

I look at his matter this way:

1) If someone intends to go Zen, it's not worth to spend another penny on anything related to AM3+.
2) If someone doesn't intend to go Zen, but already has AM3+ CPU, it's better to wait for the coming of Zen, when the current FX will go EOL. Prices will drop like a rock and then you can eventually buy an "e" for much less than now.

When the AM3 went EOL, i bought: Athlons x2 (OEM package) for 28 and 34 euros (3 in total) and 1 Athlon 640 (boxed) for 60 euros. All new. Basically, 15 euros per core, which is quite ridiculous if you think about it, considering the VAT.

Actually, the bigger the gap between Zen and FX, the more the FX will drop like a rock. Consider that used 1090T, still nowdays sell for more than FX6300 because... they are slightly better in everything except games. Still, most other AM3 CPUs, dropped a lot in price. Imagine what will happen if Zen comes and it's really good. Suddenly the market will flood with used FX, driving the prices down and forcing the unused parts on a race to the bottom at the same time.
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Batch 1432 8370E here. If anyone wants to gamble.

5.25 tops stable. In fact, 1432, 1433, 1431, 1429 are all capable of 5GHz at about 1.5 Vcore.

Still, I won't deter from the fact that Mother board, cooling, PSU etc play a part on that.
Edited by mus1mus - 7/26/15 at 4:09am
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Damn, i just found this. Is this confirmed or just a rumour?

"With a new chip comes a new platform, this time called AM4. All of AMD's desktop CPUs will use this socket, including any Zen-based APUs it produces down the line. AM4 will introduce support for faster DDR4 memory, but other implementations of the chipset will continue to use DDR3."
http://www.techspot.com/news/60626-tech-reading-amd-zen-comeback.html

So there will be AM4 motherboards that some have DDR4 slots and others with DDR3 slots? That's weird... However, if it's true that it will use DDR3, it may give me incentive to get a Zen, since i have spare DIMMs. I would love a low TDP Zen that still outperforms an FX. biggrin.gif
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Batch 1432 8370E here. If anyone wants to gamble.

5.25 tops stable. In fact, 1432, 1433, 1431, 1429 are all capable of 5GHz at about 1.5 Vcore.

Still, I won't deter from the fact that Mother board, cooling, PSU etc play a part on that.
Yeah my 8370 is 1429 and I have 5.0 at 1.462V
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PGS or PGY? Golden by any standards.
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Yeah my 8370 is 1429 and I have 5.0 at 1.462V

The problem is, unless you buy a used CPU from someone willing to read the surface for you, how can you otherwise know the batch if you buy a boxed one from a store? Anyway, for value/cost ratio, this is the worst period to buy FX CPU. The Intel prices have become much more competitive. Here the cheapest 8320 is 16 euros more than when i bought it, at 136 euros, the FX8320e at 143 and the cheapest FX-8350 is at 160 euros. Which doesn't make much sense. Plus, the cheapest i5 is 4440 at 167 euros.

Considering that in Intel there are many cheap motherboards, buying the 8320 isn't particularly appealing for anyone other than people who can actually use full multithreading applications. For gamers and virtually any other, it is more logical to buy the 4440 plus a cheap Intel mobo and he will pay the same money. AMD is trying to milk the last she can from the FX, given that there is no new CPU coming. But it's the worst period to buy now, unless in your local market, the situation is very different (like in Brazil, as our brazilian forumer mentions often). Given the competition's prices, the AMD prices are artificially high IMHO and will drop hard when Zen is out.

P.S.: Heck, iRush reports serious inability to overclock past turbo value with the now selling Giga 970 UD3P Rev. 2 , so we can't even recommend the usual "buy the cheapest 8 core+UDP and overclock to 4.5 and beyond).
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Yeah my 8370 is 1429 and I have 5.0 at 1.462V
That is a nice chip indeed, i thought my 4.9 at practically same voltage was impressive... Maybe if i was cooler? tongue.gif
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Daddy's Gamer
(15 items)
 
Son's Gamer
(13 items)
 
PROJECT WIFEY
(11 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-9590 @ 5GHz Asus 990FX Sabertooth Rev 2.0 MSI Gaming 390X G. Skill Trident X 4x4GB  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA 3  LEPA 240AC Windows 10 x64 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 55UB8500 55" 4K 3D TV Logitech MK350 Rosewill HIVE 850 NZXT S340 
MouseMouse PadOther
Logitech G700s Aukey Smooth 36" Gaming Pad Logitech Driving Force GT  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom X6 1065T @ 4GHz - 1.45v MSI 970 Gaming XFX DD 7870 Black Edition @ 1200/1500 G. Skill Trident-X 8GB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
ADATA SP550 240GB SSD Lite On 24x DVD  Corsair H80i Windows 10 
MonitorPowerCase
46" 1080P LED TV Raidmax RX850 Apevia X-Dreamer 3 Pink 
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